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How do you guys cope with the knowledge that you don't even have an iota of the talent or dedication to make a great piece of art.

I never got this feeling with music or film, but something about literature gives me this great anxiety. Fuck you guys.
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Go to bed, Franzen.
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How the hell do you know you won't ever?
Just because you don't have dedication or 'talent' now, doesn't mean that won't change.
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Damn /lit/ you nasty but the banter game rediculous

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>he can't briefly outline 20th century developments in the french social sciences
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>>7224352
could you briefly outline 20th century developments in the french social sciences for us anon?
or kill yourself, whichever requires less time and willpower
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>social sciences
>french

Lmao
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>>7224371
What is Foucault?
Sure he isn't the greatest thinker in history like some think, but he has contributed a huge amount to the field of social sciences.

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Is there a legitimate grammar checker out there that actually works well /lit?/

Or is it a complete waste of time to even try.
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my brain tbh
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>>7224147
Subject verb object. Come on.
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>>7224185
Dun be gay m8

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I'm looking for books about terrible things happening to people. Specifically, after the terrible thing happens, the person or people are now stronger for it and the story ends on a positive note. Both nonfiction and fiction are welcome.

The best thing I could come up with for now was "Between a Rock and a Hard Place," but I need to find a lot of them for reasons. Can you guys please help me out?
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Crime and Punishment
Jane Eyre
The biblical story of Joseph
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>>7224080
Those are pretty good. I'll need at least 30 or so though. I was looking into some Chuck Palahniuk books as well. Those fall under "shit that you would never want to happen to you but are fun to read about anyway." Anything like those?
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Jurassic Park
Harry Potter
R.L. stine's goosebumps series
Stephen king's It

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Well?
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jesus was a phoenician
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>>7223723
It looks like there was supposed to be a third person in that painting, between Jesus and Pontius
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From a Christian point of view, is Pilatus actually "evil"? He's doing his part to fulfill God's plan, as did Judas and Caiaphas, but at least Dante places Judas at the very lowest level of Hell, and I can't remember if that was because of his suicide or his treachery. I know the lowest circle was for traitors, but still.
Any insights, o sages of /lit/?

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Are Shakespeare and Christianity the two clasps of the patrician's mantle?
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>>7223649
no
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Well that's a fedora way of putting it. Nice web image though.
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>>7223649
she looks like a baboon begging for attention.
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OP:no

Also mantles don't have clasps, come up with a better anogloy.

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Essential /Loner/ core?

Working on stoner at the moment
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Atomised, for one.
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>>7223591
I think almost anything of McCarthy's. His main characters seem incapable of making real, lasting connections when they're not psychopaths, which I suppose falls under in the same vein
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>>7223628
I enjoyed The Road, going to pick up NCFOM also

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I am interested in reading a good book about the history of coffee. I don't want some goofy ass hipster dribble about how amazing coffee is and how it's turned the world into a more trendy place, I want a proper book about the actual events that caused coffee to be such a massive phenomenon. Thanks in advance.
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Terence McKenna's book food of the gods had a good chapter on this
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ya i can't get down with none of that artisinal coffee fag shit, just give me a big ass cup of instant folgers in the morning so i can blast off a fatty turd and start my day
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>>7223534
>instant coffee
Come on now, there is a good amount of middle ground between being a coffee snob and just being a slob.

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Does anyone have a comprehensive timeline of all the stephen king and the events within the stories?
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>>7223259
Lit - Literature

To discuss genre fiction go to /b/
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>>7223259
an immensely inadequate writer on a sentence-by-sentence, paragraph-by-paragraph, book-by-book basis
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i like king

>tfw rereading Ulysses
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>>7223133
i gotta do that soon
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>>7223133
been thinking about it for months

weird how it was so dull and tough to get through the first time, but after a year or so it settles in and you remember it more fondly than you remember remembering it

same with Moby Dick. i actually hated it the first read. but the second read i blew through it in like 4 days in complete awe
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>>7223358
yeah honestly the one time I read Ulysses it was for a class and it was excruciating, but now 8 years later phrases from it pop into my head all the time and I feel like it's a permanent part of my brain. it really does work its way into you

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Does anyone here just collect books? I own at least 400 books but I never read them. I just like the way they look.
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i do the same with 4chan thredas.
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>>7223073
I'm certain at least half of /lit/ is this.
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You don't even delude yourself into thinking you'll have time to read them? That's pretty questionable. but theres nothing wrong with owning a lot of books.

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Ok /lit/, how do you write dialog & conversation between characters? General dialog discussion/comments thread. Pic unrelated.

I have been working on fantasy and science fiction writing. I can put together good narration and description that I like, but when I write dialog, it tends to come out sounding like shit. It tends to be overly formal sounding, contrived, etc.

So, to pose some general questions:
Does dialog need to advance the plot?
Do you write dialog with a lot of questions between characters? Too many questions makes it sound too expository, I suspect.
What kind of aesthetic/goal do you try to achieve with dialog ... e.g. clever exchanges, wordplay, etc.?
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>>7222222
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>>7222941
Frame exposition inside arguments between characters so you see thought processes in the characters instead of infodumping.
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>>7222950
I didn't think I was being disrespectful, but OK, duly noted.

>>7223020
I agree with this, you definitely need to do -something- in order to avoid infodumping. However, I notice when characters ask each other questions, it seems like infodumping automatically occurs. In real life, this is pretty realistic; people ask questions when they want infodumps, and infodumps are provided from questions. But it seems like that is kind of boring in writing, so you just want to avoid questions and direct information exchange in general. But then, it seems like the conversation is empty, conveys no information, etc.
Paradox, or me confused/overthinking? I don't know.

One thing I've thought about is making the conversation always situational. E.g., leaves fall down from the tree, then the characters observe and talk about this. That way the conversation is motivated by outside events, doesn't have to convey any information as its goal. That way, you escape from the expository/infodumping boringness. However, in situational discussions, it seems like it's difficult for simple situations to incite a great deal of discussion. E.g., leaves fall from tree, Adam says 'Look at those,' John says, 'Cool', and then dialog is over, which is way too premature and pointless. So it needs to be situational enough to inspire/motivate a good deal of conversation?

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How do I read a book?

I don't think I have ever successfully read one book from cover to cover in my entire life. I'll spend the entire day reading news articles, posts, interesting historical articles, etc, but there's this weird mental block that happens when I try to read an actual book and I just stop after about a chapter or two.

The idea of finishing a single book seems like some kind of enormous undertaking to me, but I know people who read a book each day. How the hell do they do that? I just can't stay unstimulated for such a long period of time. I'm addicted to doing a dozen things at once on the internet while I read an article, so stopping all of that, sitting down in front of a book, and just reading it sounds impossible.
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>>7222940
same tbh, but when reading no fiction i just feel bored and expecting a twist.
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just read lmao jesus christ
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>>7222940
Sit down and read a portion at a time until you finish. Start with one chapter, then as the weeks go by increase the amount you read. Also, try to stay off the internet for some period of time during the day. It fucks with your ability to concentrate.

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I haven't really read in a while so I need some help here guys

What are some really dark depressing books that makes you question life? Something that really opens your eyes
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clockwise
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>dark depressing books
>really opens your eyes

anyway I'd say Blindness
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>>7222858
Author?

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I'm looking for some good historical fiction. I have Bernard Cornwell down, read the whole Sharpe series and I'm working on the Saxon novels. What other good historical fiction works are there? Is Masters of Rome any good?
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I Claudius
Memoirs of Hadrian
good Roman historical fiction

The Master and Commander series (aka the Aubrey-Maturin series) by Patrick O'Brian is a lot of fun. It's set in the British Navy mostly during the Napoleanic Wars and the War of 1812.
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Moon of bitter cold
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>>7222834
>I'm working on the Saxon novels

I assume you've read Ivanhoe?

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