I'm going to have to pick a book to read, one that's over 200 pages long, and with an anti-hero as protagonist. Any suggestions?
Thinking of Moby Dick. Cpt. Ahab is a protagonist, and an anti-hero, right? Within the context of the book?
A Clockwork Orange, my copy clocks in at 182 pages
Jim Harrison's A Good Day to Die
>>7229152
The kinds of books that pseudo intellectuals here read wouldnt fit you.
What genres are you into anyways?
If my goal in life is to become a writer, should i drop out engineering and study english instead?
I like engineering, but i am really insecure thinking that i may be losing something by not getting a B.A. in english, and by seeing that almost all my favorite authors got one.
You definitely do not a degree in English to be a writer. Most people doing a BA in English these days don't even read. If anything, it could taint you and your aspirations given that univeristy English is pretty cancerous unless you really find a niche.
Also, engineering sounds boring to me but if it pays well enough for you to work less hours and read/write more that's better than the bullshit office job you'd probably have to get with an English degree.
it's not 100% necessary, but if you're serious about becoming a writer, why not go for the english major? better job prospects out of college would be one answer. you have to decide how important that is to you. the advantage of switching to english is not really the diploma but the opportunity to point both your work and leisure time at your goal, saturating your time with literature. alternatively, you could continue to pursue the engineering degree and just read and write regularly in your leisure time. but are you gonna do that, or are you gonna video games and post on 4chan when you get a break? you gotta figure that out. going for the english major would keep you focused.
if your goal in life is to become a writer then write, lmao since when do you need a degree to become a good writer, sure edukation helps, but if you have the best grammar and can't write past a 10 page story then you're out of luck.
What's the fallacy where someone says something, then when you counter it they say "oh i obviously meant something else and it should be obvious for anyone who isn't a moron"?
lol OP got rekt
No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.[1] When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim ("no Scotsman would do such a thing"), rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing").[2]
>>7229078
I mean it's kind of an ad hominem?
Hello, /lit/
I figure that you guys know more about word shit than I do, so I have a question.
If you were to create a list of anagrams for the word 'hello', would it be acceptable for 'helol' to be on that list twice given that you could switch the order of the two letter 'l's in there?
how would i know that you havent listed the same one twice?
>>7229062
You wouldn't. But given that there are two letter 'l's, are they both valid anagrams given that, if you were to number each letter, they would be different?
For example:
" h1 e2 l3 l4 o5 "
helol (a): " h1 e2 l3 o5 l4 "
helol (b): " h1 e2 l4 o5 l3 "
id say no
an anagram takes one arrangement, and makes a new one
if the letters aren't distinguishable from each other, then you cannot make a new arrangement
e.g. you can make an anagram out of "AAAA" because you have the same result no matter how you arrange them
How do you retain the books you've read?
Is it just a case of taking notes, rereading ect?
Why do you want to?
Concentrating and thinking as you read.
I never reread, the adventure becomes a destination
Is it possible to write a truly good novel in praise of anti-semitism or indeed any form of oppression/fascism?
Does one exist?
I'm writing in relation to 'What is Literature' by Satre, he says you could have a good one based on hate of the white people, because the hatred comes from a love of freedom by black people.
Now with that logic I could see some pretty good books coming from Palestine.
Bumping, seeing as I have time before work to discuss.
last bump for lunch
My last novel was an experiment based around this question - I mean, not about anti-semitism particularly, but about writing about a group of characters who are united by their rejection of modern liberal capitalism and their embracing of violence and terrorism, from revolutionary communism to the Nazis to Pol Pot and ISIS. My summary for idiots is "Fight Club but it doesn't pussy out". I don't know if it's "truly good", but it was a fascinating thing to write.
sup /lit/
I have read Homers Iliad and Odyssey, Sophocles Three Theban Plays, Aristophanes Frogs and Other Plays, Herodotus Histories, Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War, Virgils Aeneid, and Gene Wolfes Latro cycle.
What else would you recommend?
Which of Aristophanes' did you like best?
RTFS
Plato - The Republic
The Trial of Socrates
Help me /lit/
I've never been fond of reading. But I think I'd like to start. Can anyone recommend me some novellas? Preferably ones that have lots of drama, sad endings, melancholy tone, or just all in all depressing? Something that would give me the feels, it sounds stupid but that kind of shit inspires me to try harder in life.
>>7228626
Notes from the underground
Steppenwolf
No longer human
Lord of the flies
>>7228626
Siddhartha by Herman Hesse is a great book to sort of... start over and find yourself interested in reading and relaxing generally.
Just read Russian authors and don't stop
So in Cannibal Holocaust, in the 2nd office scene the director quotes Gravity's Rainbow: 'If they get you asking the wrong questions...' This starts at frame 2672. In the Perrenial Classics Bleeding Edge on page 267, line 2 says 'Her brother starred in Ruggero Deodato's latest televion endeavor.' That's the director of CH.
Is this on purpose?
Am I losing my fucking mind?
Maybe Pynchon and Deodato went to college together
>>7228625
Nope.
>>7228614
Pynchon probably saw Cannibal Holocaust, saw they'd quoted him either, intentionally or not, and decided to nod back. Two artists referring to one another is not apynchonesqueconspiracy. The idea behind the quote in Cannibal Holocaust isn't original to Pynchon and the way Pynchon worded it isn't especially novel so it could easily be a case of convergence.
>Been almost 100 years
>no form of prose or poetry has even come CLOSE to dethroning pic related
explain this
>>7228596
you have shit taste.
>>7228596
You're a literal cob of corn. That's the only explanation.
>>7228596
Pretty much a fact. Try reading The Waves by Virginia Woolf right after, kek you almost feel embarrassed for her. Kid stuff in comparison truly kid stuff.
What are some books that deal with complex relationships / friendships? Written in the first person narrative?
I recently realized that I adore stories that deal with complex relationships and complex situations with people.
I don't really read books, but I'm willing to give this to shot if you guys can recommend me some shit. If I want to find this type of content I would imagine books are the place to go.
I want to go on a on emotional rollercoaster where you can feel the emotion of falling inlove through the words.
How the Grinch stole christmas
a book with relationships and situations, that are complex... hmmm
>>7228519
Could have sworn that was motherfucking Bailey Jay at first... glad to know she has a qt twin ;)
>TFW a book starts out strong and reels you in, but then turns to absolute shit half/three quarters of the way through.
Do you struggle through it to the end or just toss it away?
>calmly set aside
>promise myself I will finish it one day
>hope someone steals it
>>7228475
if the book is absolute bollocks of course I stop reading. don't torture yourselves lads chuck that book across the room yea
>>7228482
I have some that I did exactly this with while I was in high school...I graduated in 2007 and they're still sitting on the shelf.
where do I start with pic related /lit/?
I started with post-office and it was a snore fest.
Maybe start with ham on rye
Start by tossing all his books into the trash can fam.
>>7228432
Poetry or fiction?
For poetry, I'd say grab Sifting Through The Madness
For fiction, I'd say Women or Factotum.
I don't mean to sound like a retard, but is it just me, or is secularism becoming increasingly anti-intellectual? It seems like it was very intellectual back in Foucault's day, but now it's trending more toward Sam Harris and SJW's and misogynistic libertarians.
Sam Harris is an intellectual
It's still better than being retarded and believing in any god.
Also,
Sage
>>7228420
Modern progressivism is modeled after calvinist protestantism. Read up someMencius Moldbugfor an intro in how it came to that.
Just read this. Fucking awesome. What are some of the best "Choose your own adventure" type books?
Why is this type of genre not more popular?
And why are the vast majority of the titles geared toward kids?
"Choose your own adventure General", I guess.
flann o'brien was working on what was basically a choose-your-own-adventure book when he died, but they havent published it.
>"Choose your own adventure General"
Also, "Goosebumps General"
>>7228424
>flann o'brien was working on what was basically a choose-your-own-adventure book when he died
Sounds cool. Do you know the title?
>but they havent published it.
Those fucking cucks.