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I'm at the bar watching a football game and there is seriously a guy sitting alone at the bar reading Infinite Jest. Not even kidding. He's drinking a LIIT or something.

Should I say something to him? If so what?
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>>7430724
Ask him if he's a pleb.
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>>7430724
Say
>Why are you all alone?
When he replies, say
>There's something terribly sad and banal about that.
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Tell him DFW had no discernable talent.

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>he skips the introduction
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>>7430710
The introduction to mein kampf was about 30 pages of the guy going on about how bad a writer hitler was and how hard it was to translate something written so poorly.

I didn't even fucking read the book.
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>>7430734
Which translation was that?

I can never remember which one was the contemporary Englishman (Murphy?) and which is the generally recommended one (well, by right wing dudes).
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I'm not reading some fag not related to actual writers, probably a lit posting non steam fag

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This is a trivial thought but I want an answer. Why should I care about almost everything when, at the core, almost everything wants to take from me in order to benefit itself?

>Zizek ranting about late capeetalism

He makes relative shitloads from his books, talks, movies, articles, infinitely repeating himself, not being rigorous a lot of the time. He's a great entertainer disguised who passes as a philosopher most of the time (not to comment on his actual philosophising). He does this all for the sweet sweet money.

I only say Zizek because he says he's communist.

>lit
>tells people to start with the greeks
>tells people that not reading fictoin makes you a dumb stupidhead

lit, who all want to be writers for narcissistic reasons, mostly audience pussy and attention seeking reasons. Who want people to see the greeks as the cool stuff just so that lit itself can seem the most knowledgable on the "msot important topics".

I could go fucking on. It's all so trivial. At the core of everything is someone trying to take from me to give to themself. It's all so sickeningly trivial
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I feel you Anon, I've realized this during different moments of my life.
I've also come to the conclusion that you gotta live you life without giving a flying fuck about who's what, and do not respect someone without a reason. I've also tried to become more Anarchist with my life, seeing how pointless and futile is following a group or an authority figure when they will get benefit out of yourself.
However, you can't simply go to the other end and act like those you criticize, you must try to find the middle ground on this. There are plenty of people that weren't as egotistical nor a follower, and we must try to be like them.


Try to live as peaceful as you can and love those who love you unconditionally.
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>le why does anything matter
You seem like a complete pseud. Re-examine your reasoning and your pathetic life.
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>>7430711

Oh fuck off. /lit/ is so pathetic when it comes ot this. They flip flop straight to the "le everyone who is le religious is so le sophisticated and le intelligent in le every way le le le le how can you even le question le axioms of le ethics or le thoughts"

nah

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Any book similar to this comic?
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Naked Lunch
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>>7430554
thanks for the comic. style and content reminded me a lot of 'The Prophet'. (There's a dude called John Prophet that this ailing empire clones a fuckton of and shoots off to a billion planets in order to recolonize the galaxy when the empire fails. Story follows the fratricidal arc of these eponymous prophets as they struggle with identity and power in an alien world.)
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my journal

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This year I've written a few short stories and I have an opportunity to reserve half a table at a zine fair that is happening in a couple of months.

I've never been to one before but I thought of putting a zine together with some of my short fiction, some illustrations, maybe poems too. I would charge maybe $3 just so the work didn't seem cheapened by a lower price.

Do you think this could be a good idea?
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Bump
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>>7430527
I think it sounds cool and fun but charging X amount so that work doesn't seem "cheapened" at a fucking zine fair is kinda stupid.
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>>7430576
Well, maybe I'm thinking about it wrong, I've never been to one, but basic economics is that if a product is undervalued, nobody will buy it

There's a story about how a business owner left instructions for her employee to heavily discount some artworks that hadn't sold in a long time, but her employee accidentally increased the price by 10, and over the weekend they all sold.

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Books are expensive. Where can I buy cheap, preferably new books?

No ebooks please.
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>>7430375
>Books are expensive
No they're not.

Amazon
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>>7430381
10-20$ a book is extremely expensive considering I can get through a moderately lengthed book in a few days.
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>>7430398

books are "free" on amazon if you sign up for Amazon unlimited, $9.99/month

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People often lie about reading classic novels, survey finds.
http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-people-lie-often-about-reading-classic-novels-survey-finds-20130906-story.html

the British survey are:

1. "1984" by George Orwell -- 26%
2. "War and Peace" by Leo Tolstoy -- 19%
3. "Great Expectations" by Charles Dickens -- 18%
4. "The Catcher in the Rye" by J.D. Salinger -- 15%
5. "A Passage to India" by E.M. Forster -- 12%
6. "Lord of the Rings" by J.R.R. Tolkein -- 11%
7. "To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee -- 10%
8. "Crime and Punishment" by Fyodor Dostoyevsky -- 8%
9. "Pride and Prejudice" by Jane Austen -- 8%
10. "Jane Eyre" by Charlotte Brontë -- 5%

would you, /lit/ ?
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no i'm actually patrician
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> the single most common strategy people employed to look smarter, followed closely behind by wearing eyeglasses or changing the color of one’s hair (52%)

People change the color of their hair to look smarter? How does this make sense.?

Funny how those books are literally the meme books among normies.
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>>7430247
>People change the color of their hair to look smarter? How does this make sense.?
Blonde to brown presumably.

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What are some good books to give away for christmas?
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I bought If You Give A Mouse A Cookie and Brown Bear, Brown Bear, What Do You See for my cousins' almost 1 year old. IYGAMAC was the first book I ever read, and BBBBWDYS was the first book my little brother ever read.
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>>7430217
Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
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>>7430217
Infinite Jest.

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Which books have the same man-versus-the-unbeatable or man-versus-nature theme/feel as Moby-Dick?
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Definitely the Iliad.
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Don Quijote (fuck you English speakers) sort of
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>>7430215
>>7430210
I've read them both. Both those are entry level. Anything not so famous but well-written? I might be asking too much, I know.

>tfw liked Don more than the Iliad

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Notes of a dirty old Man,

>everywhere we hang onto the walls of the world, and in the darkest part of hangover, I think of two friends who advise me on various methods of suicide. what better proof of loving camaraderie? one of my friends has razor scars running all along his left arm. the other jams pills by the bucketloads into a mass of black beard. they both write poetry. there is something about writing poetry that brings a man close to the cliff’s edge. probably, though, all three of us will live into our nineties. can you imagine the world of 2010 a.d.? of course, the way it will look will depend a lot on what is done with the Bomb. I suppose men will still eat eggs for breakfast, have sex problems. write poetry. commit suicide.
>I think that it was in 1954 that I last tried suicide.

anyone read this? The collection is pretty good, with rare cases of Buk writing fiction, like a short story that seems inspired by Metamorphosis.
In "Notes", Buk is old and is more bitter than ever. What was absent from his earlier work is recurring themes of murder and vengeance. He also writes about current events, the death of the Kennedies, all the left-wing getting shot, the coming revolution (before 1968) (he says contradictory things, that revolution is ugly and that a revolutionary is someone who wants the power, like anyone else, so nothing gets better after a revolution ; and then he says he's happy to live in a time where he sees the little man uprising)

he also often talks about other writers ("poets"), most of whom he has known personally. He realizes that they're all supported by the wife or Mommy, which explains why their poetry is so gay. He expresses his feelings after reading a Movable Feast by Hemingway : some of them good writers, but the disappointment of seeing them smiling in pictures, selling out to rich aristocrat Gertrude Stein, who paid them to entertain them in Paris and write shit.

I'm not doing well these days, so this is the only thing I can read, quite relevant to my interests. He shits on most writers, except a few that he saves, like Kafka, Fante or Turgeniev.

Oh, and most importantly, in "Notes" (basically a collection of magazine articles), you see a sometimes suicidal Bukowski, who's bitter about the happiness of the faggots, the feminine mamma's boys, the wussies, the sellouts... Very honestly, he wonders if he's not weak too. He spent his life pushing people away, and when black thoughts are coming, he stares at his phone for hours, wondering which x-mistress he will call, or which friend. He realizes that always playing the tough guy who doesn't need anyone brought him to loneliness. And he still has money problems. All in all, lots of interesting feels.

Now post anything Buk related. Indulge. Have a drink.
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>reading bukowski
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>>7430054
>one-liners
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>>7430049
Thanks, definitely looking it up
I enjoyed ham on rye, factotum and post office, but i can understand how /lit/ dislikes Bukowski

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Did John Waters imply we get laid?
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>>7430045

No, he's outright giving the advice that you shouldn't fuck illiterate plebs. It's not to imply all book nerds fuck constantly.
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>>7430055
lel this

OP your reading comprehension is shit
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>>7430045
but I only have an e-reader :<

Just bought crime and punishment

Anything i should know before i read it
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>>7430000
How to read.
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>>7430000
What translation you got?
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>>7430000
Russian, Orthodox Christianity, the Greeks

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Serious question, besides the wiki obviously, how do you guys find new books to read? Is goodreads a trustworthy website for lists and recommendations? It seems like they are good for some things but very lacking in others (for example you can find massive lists of general history books but a search for "Japan history" or "Eastern history" lists turns up nothing. also they often mislabel historical fiction as non-fiction).

Please forgive my newfaginess.
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>>7429948
LibraryThing's tagmash system has been my best resource for finding specific subsections of shit to read for years now.

You start with, say, Russian literature:

www.librarything.com/tag/Russian+literature

What if you want surreal Russian literature?

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Russian+literature,+surreal

Or poetry?

https://www.librarything.com/tag/Russian+literature,+poetry

Obviously the books aren't always applicable to both things, since it's relying on user tags, and users don't always know best, or might have just accidentally tagged it that. But it's a perfect jumping off point. This also doesn't assess quality.
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>>7429948
It it's serious non-fiction, a good book usually has an index of literature quoted or used in the back, providing a starting point for further reading.
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>>7429948
I have friends who read and constantly recommend and discuss books, and I read the book reviews in magazines, so if anything it's harder to prioritize all the promising titles that I hear about.

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I'm tired of looking up words on my kindle and finding that they are not available in the default dictionary. Does anyone have a far more complete dictionary that they are using on their ereader?
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>>7429891
>not using a dictionary
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>>7429891
google . com : define word
dictionary . com
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>>7429900
Regular dictionary breaks the flow of reading too much.

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>finish a book
>see a relevant thread
>ask question or offer opinion
>"fuck off/faggot/retard"
>shamed into not posting
>lurk more, build knowledge/courage to contribute
>"kill yourself"
>mask thoughts with memes to subtly or ironically hint at thoughts
>"kek"
>kek indeed
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>>7429874
Welcome to post-modernism.
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>lol that's a pretty funny post OP, you think of it yourself?

That's /lit/ in a nutshell. Are ironic insults the result of low brain activity or the cause?
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>>7429874
I don't know the quality of your posts, but there is definitely an atmosphere of hostility here.

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