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I honestly never got the hype for DFW. I've only read This is Water and some quotes that are sometimes attributed to John Green but he seems like the kind of guy who writes shit for middle aged women to share with each other on facebook. Everything he says seems to be convinced that it is positive and anti-cynical in spite of overwhelming odds, as if it defines itself by it's lack of cynicism and false hope. Kind of like the notes that chocolate companies put on the inside of the wrappers to reassure fat menopausal women that their lives aren't really hollow hedonistic self parodies interspersed with humiliation and denial.

I may have misjudged him though but I doubt it

>>7439909
>I honestly never got the hype for DFW. I've only read This is Water and some quotes

>I may have misjudged him though but I doubt it

modern /lit/ everyone

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Why do you feel so empty, OP?

Go to bed tao

>>7439501
It is only 6:00 o'clock PM in New York at the moment, and besides I must pack for the Fifth Season.

>>7439504
Are you actually Tao? :o

Should I just jump right in to OP? You all seem to like it.

quit beating around the bush and read Gravity's Rainbow

Lot 49

My stomach is a bit sore and I wish I'd done more of what I was meaning to do today.

I turned the dial to 29 and felt like this book was worth reading tonight.

I think they might, but I'm no android so I can't say for sure

Cant really focus on the text with more than a little wine

>>7438808
Hemingway - For whom the bell tolls

>>7438808
Atonement. You laugh and then cry a lot.

im up for this, i didn't even know who szentkuthy was

>>7438497
basically a nigga, who outprousted proust

I wrote this back in the other thread, I think that Miss Macintosh, my darling would fit greatly into new meme trilogy.

Anyway, Musil is great; never heard of Szentkuthy before; I would be afraid of Zettels Traum - I read some earlier books by Schmidt and they were so dense already, I can't almost imagine how difficult his later works are, however what I read was unbelievably good.

first you're gonna need hegel and nietzsche and heidegger and it wouldn't hurt to get marx and some frankfurt school. also althusser and maybe walter benjamin.

then you can go straight into the memes: derrida and delleuze

just don't. you won't need him. ever

>>7438463
thanks for your qualified opinion

"yes"

"yes"

No. Not really.

>>7437721
That guy who wrote that proto-joyce novel that nabokov vouched for

-Anna Akhmatova
-Vasily Aksyonov
-Leonid Andreyev
-Mikhail Artsybashev
-Isaac Babel
-Andrei Bely
-Andrei Bitov
-Ivan Bunin
-Lydia Chukovskaya
-Sergei Dovlatov
-Venedikt Erofeev
-Afanasy Fet
-Vsevolod Garshin
-Aleksander Griboyedov
-Vasily Grossman
-Ilya Ilf and Evgeny Petrov
-Daniil Kharms
-Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky
-Mikhail Kuzmin
-Nikolai Leskov
-Vladimir Makanin
-Osip Mandelstam
-Vladimir Mayakovsky
-Yury Olesha
-Nikolai Ostrovsky
-Victor Pelevin
-Ludmilla Petrushevskaya
-Boris Pilnyak
-Andrei Platonov
-Zakhar Prilepin
-Mikhail Saltykov-Shchedrin
-Victor Serge
-Varlam Shalamov
-Mikhail Sholokhov
-Fyodor Sologub
-Vladimir Sorokin
-Tatyana Tolstaya
-Lyudmila Ulitskaya
-Mikhail Zoshchenko

>>7437730
andrei bely? agreed.

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>>7437478
>spirituality without religion
Most spooky thing ive seen all day
If you do not believe in god you cannot believe in morality

>>7437718
>If you do not believe in god you cannot believe in morality
>believe in morality

What? This is the silliest thing I've read in days. Do explain.

>>7437755
There is no basis for morality outside the metaphorical or social contract.
Source: the whole history of law.

Just watch Waiting for Godot on Youtube and then reference it forever and wait for other people to reference it so you can wink at them ;)

Beckett is for fucking tryhard plebs

>So /lit/, if you had to had to name three books as an intro to Beckett, which ones would they be?

Complete plays, Molloy, The Unnameable.

Kind of a cheat, but you really need a lot of stuff. Beckett is pretty dense sometimes so it looks weird but you get what he's doing.

Read "First Love", it's a short story but it's very representative of everything Beckett does. For plays, try Krapp's Last Tape, Godot, Endgame, Play (I really like the Minghella version). For prose, just read the trilogy, Molloy, Malone Dies and The Unnameable. Some people also like Watt. If you want to impress people, read Compagnie and tell everyone it's your favorite.

>>7437100
>If you want to impress people

This is pretty much the only reason anyone reads fictional shit.

the road -> no country > blood meridian -> sutree

skipping no country is acceptable

>>7436570
Skip both The Road and No Country. Read anything except those, actually.

>>7436570
Cool, I finished Child of God the other day and I hear great things about Blood Meridian, but it also sounds more complex than his later work

>>7436576
Why do you say that?

> Hardcore History
I dunno that one just kinda sounds like hanging out with your drunk nerdy gen x uncle, who's testosterone levels have finally dropped low enough and whose alcoholism has finally deteriorated his vitality enough that he just wants to ramble about military history with pent up emotions implying that he wished he were there instead of sitting there worried about whether he can afford a new deck.

...I have no point to make

>>7436327
>...I have no point to make

Indeed you don't

>>7436337
errr wait I was gonna suggest that calling him GOAT is a bit like inviting that drunk uncle to give a symposium at Harvard; he could maybe pull it off but 2bh I doubt even he thinks he belongs there, much less anyone else.

K-on.

>>7435734
mann's Doctor Faustus might be just what you're looking for.

>>7435734
Not really relevant to music theory, but The Birth of Tragedy has some really interesting statements about music and art as a whole.

Capital by Karl Marx. The Ego and Its Own by Max Stirner. The Subspace Emissary's Worlds Conquest.

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>>7435109

>>7435126
bait