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ITT: We post literally perfect books.
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This thread is off to a great start. :s
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ITT: We rate each other's pen names. I'll start.
C.C. Turnip
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Lord Parfington of Wilburshirestonville
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Stirner Newb
General Stirner Thread 2015-12-10 17:49:21 Post No.7446207
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I've just picked up a copy of The Ego and His Own by Max Stirner.
Before I embark upon reading it I thought I would try and generate a general Stirner discussion here on /lit/ in order to help motivate and equip me with the necessary tools/mindset requisite for a full understanding and appreciation of this most sensational of meme philosophers.
Some questions:
- To what extent is Stirner just a limper, shallower Nietzsche?
- Why is Stirner so non-canon?
- How did Stirner come to inhabit the same meme-sphere as Thomas Pynchon and DFW on /lit/?
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because marx raped him as far as i know but idk bout that. have´nt read st.max yet.
plus he´s edgy but fun. In the first half of the book he shittalks Feuerbach to an amusing extend.
post some stirners
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>>7446207
Stirner is so non canon because he asks the obvious fucking questions that any 10 year old could figure out. The same questions that the entire non philosophy reading public knows. But rather than ignore these questions and proceed in to a 500 book length Hegel-like diatribe to try and get his place in the canon and lecturing post, he just points out the bullshit instead.
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Just finished pic related, what are /lits/ thoughts on this book.
Also what's the best hemingway
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hemmingway*
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That cover is so fucking lame.
I wish it was a universal rule that OP MUST kick off the discussion himself rather than just lazily going: Thing. Thoughts?
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What are YOUR thoughts? You just finished it, the majority of us haven't read it or haven't read it in a while. Don't be a bundle of stick.
The Sun Also Rises is his best work. The next "big" novels of his are (in order) The Old Man and the Sea, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and A Farewell to Arms.
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The first edition Scribner's is nice, so is the later edition (pic related).
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Let's discuss The Republic of Plato, since it is considered one of the finest works of philosophical /lit/erature.
Is Polemarchus the worst debater in world history? He enters the conversation in Book I with a strong and plausible definition of justice, and allows himself to be converted within minutes by Socrates' utter nonsense.
How easy would it have been for him to put up an argument?
>No Socrates, being good at guarding something has nothing to do with your ability to steal. We have already distinguished doctors, lyre players, bricklayers, and others. I see no reason not to distinguish between thiefs and guards - and a quote from Homer about a single mythical figure won't convince me by the way.
>The grouping of friend and enemy is based on existential commitments, not any objective valuation of goodness or badness.
>No Socrates, I believe the harsh treatment of moral agents who are capable of reflection may have beneficial consequences, unlike the harsh treatment of horses, because these two objects of harsh treatment are qualitiatively different.
Similarly, how do we feel about Thrasymachus? I believe his attitude to Socrates' childish stratagems and intellectual cowardice is justified, and I think he makes a good if inarticulate sociological case for ethical nihilism with normative legalism which Socrates fails to refute with petty references to rare cases of fallibility in matters of self-interest, meaningless distinctions between practical arts and the art of earning a living, and simply incorrect statements about the lack of ambition showed by doctors and musciains to excel against fellow practitioners.
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Thrasymachus' arguments about justice being "the rule of the stronger" are powerfully refuted by Socrates. You can call them 'rare,' but instances of fallibility which Socrates raises do indicate that it exists, that there are flaws in Thrasymachus' arguments. It's not enough for Socrates that the argument in favor of justice be MOSTLY true. If there are any exceptions, circumstance and cleverness can enlarge them. Socrates wants an airtight definition of what justice is, something that can stand against any test.
Incidentally, it's pretty easy to draw a line between Thrasymachus and Nietzsche. I think half the reason Nietzsche got so annoyed at Plato is that Plato anticipated his argument and blew it the fuck out more than two thousand years before he was born.
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socrates' definition of justice is more less mathematical/logical and irrefutable
if you want to talk about how real life works, that's a different story
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>Let's
>Let
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Alright everybody, I have finally created a comprehensive list of every Philosophical work you should ever read, so we no longer need a retarded guide.
What do you think?
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>All that Hegel
No thanks
Also fuck off with the greeks
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>>7444415
Hegel is important you retard
And really theres barely any Greek on there
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>>7444393
Nice, this strikes the core of western philosophy, very good.
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Are you really going to let this drug-addled loser be the voice of your generation, /lit/? Get cracking and write that novel, for all our sakes.
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Can't I just kill him?
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>>7443161
I am but it's in Arabic so it probably won't be a generational voice unless we take over your countries within 10-20 years. :s
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On it:^)
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Current Reading Thread 2015-12-09 19:07:58 Post No.7442618
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Sound off, faggots. Pic related.
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Is the Hughes translation lively?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RfQjFkGsEE
hasn't burned down yet, but it's breddy gud
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"Chomsky is empirically wrong." Slavoj Zizek, known Lacanian
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Good post OP.
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I know shit about linguistics.
Is that paper refuting Chomsky's theories?
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>>7441841
>CHOMSHKEE EESH EEMPEERECALLEE WWRONG
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HYPERSPHERE, A Christmas PDF 2015-12-06 14:03:49 Post No.7428665
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HYPERSPHERE, A Christmas PDF
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The book is done, now we're waiting for copy editing to finish.
In the meantime, artfag here could use some help. Need a few things for the back cover:
>Book blurb/summary
For a novel (brief, enticing introduction to the plot) and/or for a short story collection (description of the author's skills and credentials, touches on overarching themes and specific scenes).
>About the author
self-explanatory
>Reviews/quotes
One-liners are best, a sentence or two is fine. There are lots to pull out from last thread: >>7418113 >>7418124 >>7418124 >>7418149 >>7418155 >>7418159 >>7418262 >>7418881
What I really need is the sources of the quotes, critics and magazines etc.
PARTS 1-5:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TIdoWxLOs7tVlO8MHISFAm1stJ7FEta-fL0dBe88J1g/edit?pli=1
FINALE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AnRcYxfBIcVv7NRgIgvVtq1wSSudoIs39qurTi_IW-M/edit?pli=1
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I compiled the Death Orgy with the Parts.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TIdoWxLOs7tVlO8MHISFAm1stJ7FEta-fL0dBe88J1g/edit?pli=1
All that's left now is:
>Insert the BedroomPunishment story that got deleted in Part 5.
>Capitalize some 'the's from Part 5 - some rapscallion changed them to "nigger" in the process.
>Adjust paragraphs, proper alignment.
Otherwise, it's dandy.
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I also came upon this secret chapter in TLOTIAT that sh/d explain some refs, for the confused.
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Hi /lit/. Christmas is coming up and I want to find a good present for my older brother. He's the guy that really got me into reading and overall acted more like a father than even our actual father, so I think a really good book would be perfect. Some stuff about his taste:
>huge on russians, has some of every russian author I've ever heard discussed on /lit/
>we're american but he taught himself to be mostly fluent in russian and german, can understand some spanish, polish, serbian, and old church slavic
>majored in history, got a law degree
>loves anything related to 20th century cold war/russian history (but he's probably too well read here for anything to be new to him)
>non-russian authors he likes would be vonnegut, heller, hesse, very very big fan of faulkner
He's probably the most literary person I know and one of the smartest, but I simply don't know what he would like that he doesn't already have. Does /lit/ have any ideas?
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Do you know if he owns/has read Vonnegut's Wompeters, Foma, and Granfalloons? Even among his fans, it's a lesser known/read work, consisting of a collection of essays, speeches, and interviews. He would undoubtedly enjoy that. For Heller, if he hasn't read both Picture This and Something Happened, I would highly recommend those, but I would guess he has if he is as well-read as you suggest.
For something similar to some of his tastes that you mention that he may not have read, I would also suggest Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis. It is very similar to Heller's Something Happened, a satire on the middle/upper middle class American bourgeoisie.
One last recommendation would be Winesburg, Ohio by Sherwood Anderson. Fantastic novel comprised of a series of short stories centered on the various people of a small town. Wonderful look into what makes different people tick, their desires, their flaws, etc. Regarded as one of the most highly influential works for modern American authors including Faulkner.
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Thanks anon. Winesburg especially sounds like something he might like. I'll look into all those
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>>7452050
>Regarded as one of the most highly influential works for modern American authors including Faulkner.
I probably could have worded that more precisely. It's regarded as one of the more influential works for those authors in terms of setting the foundation for the styles, themes, etc. that you find to be common amongst the modern American authors like Faulkner, Steinbeck, and Hemmingway.
And one more random rec that someone like him would get a kick out of: The Professor and the Madman (or The Surgeon of Crowthorne if in UK). Very intriguing history of one of the most significant contributors to the original Oxford English Dictionary. He was highly intelligent but also highly insane, to the point he thought people were kidnapping him in his sleep and forcing him to have sex with children, and he spent the majority of his adult life in an institute for the criminally insane after killing a guy he thought was after him but was really just on his way to work. Oh yeah, and he alsohacked off his own dick while institutionalized.
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Magic Realism book on ME 2015-12-11 20:55:10 Post No.7450786
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Sup /lit/
What is the equivalent of A Thousand Years of Solitude for the Middle East? I am looking for a magic realism book to write about and I am particularly interested in the Middle East with an Arabic speaking background. So far I can only think of a 101 Arabian Nights.
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why's james cryin? cuz he just got dunked on.
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midnight's children maybe?
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>>7450786
I unfortunately haven't read Marquez yet so I can't make a direct comparison or link. Maybe you'd be interested in Ibn Tufayl's Hayy b. Yaqdhan and Ibn an-Nafis' Fadeel b. Natiq (Theologus Autodidactus)?
1001 Nights definitely is a good place to start too. You can read the Arabic online from here:
https://ar.wikisource.org/wiki/%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%81_%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84%D8%A9_%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84%D8%A9
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What texts would /lit/ recommend for learning about Buddhism?
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use the archive
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Check the archive before you make such a common request. Here's one thread:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S7096422
You can use the search function to find more if that's not satisfactory.
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A dead white European male was teaching a class on English literature, known tool of imperialist oppression.
“Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship King Leopold II, greatest monarch the world has ever known, even greater than James Monroe!”
At this moment, a black, female, transgendered, cis-hetero-homoflexible Latino transvestite man who has over 20,000 Tweets and 12,000 Tumblr posts stood up and held up a novel.
“What is this book?”
The professor smirked oppressively and smugly replied “Heart of Darkness, by Polish-British writer Joseph Conrad, an intelligent and insightful study of the primitive mind of the African peoples.”
“Wrong. The book is a racist and oppressive piece of propaganda designed to dehumanize the proud peoples of the African continent. Conrad is a bigot. If the book truly had merit as you claimed, Oprah would’ve reviewed it on her show already.”
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and Iron Cross. He stormed out of the room crying those DWEM crocodile tears.
The students applauded and all registered Marxist that day and accepted Martin Luther King Jr. as their lord and savior. An okapi pounced into the room and stood next to a south-up map centered around Africa. The students joined hand in hand and sang Toto’s Africa several times, and Jesse Jackson, king of all black people, showed up to enact affirmative action across the country.
The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of a giant black nigger dick up his ass was tossed into the Sahara desert for all eternity.
That student’s name? Chinua Achebe.
Hakuna Matata.
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>>7449892
Thanks for showing us that you know how to copy-paste and search through the archive. :s
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>>7449892
This didn't really happen.
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People seem to be confused about what a Marxist is on this board