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>Lying is man's only privilege over all other organisms. If you lie--you get to the truth! Lying is what makes me a man. Not one truth has ever been reached without first lying fourteen times or so, maybe a hundred and fourteen, and that's honorable in its own way; well, but we can't even lie with our own minds! Lie to me, but in your own way, and I'll kiss you for it. Lying in one's own way is almost better than telling the truth in someone else's way; in the first case you're a man, and in the second--no better than a bird. The truth won't go away, but life can be nailed shut; there are examples. Well, so where are we all now? With regard to science, development, thought, invention, ideals, aspirations, liberalism, reason, experience, and everything, everything, everything, we're all, without exception, still sitting in first grade! We like getting by on other people's reason--we've acquired a taste for it!

Who is the best author to read for the Christmas season, and why is he Dostoevsky?
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>>7479713
it seems 2 me that u have answered ur own question
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>>7479713
animals lie all the time, Dickens if the most comfy btw and perfect for the season
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>>7479713

>that entire quote

Oh look, it's a universal truth that is actually a bland generality and where I'm not actually sure whether it's the author's view or just the hcaracter's view, or the author speaking through the character in order to sarcastically make fun of the view

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Hey guys where do you buy your books?
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>>7479665
bookdepository
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amazon
>free 2 day shipping for students
>have almost everything
literally where else
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>supporting bourgeois
pls

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>Put in this world against your will
>Forces you to face the fact that life has no objective meaning/traced path
>Confronted to anxiousness surrounding death
>If religious, God supposedly judges your acts throughout a life that you didn't choose to have at first
>Repeat process by procreating
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>>7479489
i have that image on a tile next to my door.
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>>7479500
Did you make it yourself?
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What?

You are part of a species of highly sophisticated social animal. Your quality of life and chance of passing on your genes is directly proportional to how well you adapt and fit inside the social order of whatever period in time you happen to be born into.

Because of overall improvements, even those with maladapted personalities; who throughout human history have been persecuted, maligned, rejected; can still enjoy the freedoms to live, work and breed in a society which they contribute nothing to and would be better off without them.

Contrarian ideas are not yours and yours alone through force of will and sheer determination. You're a genetic failure, a maladapted social retard, who in a more spartan world would simply be eliminated in the womb, sparing us all years of your torrid lamentation. Be thankful that the vast majority of normal people have decided to allow societies such as ours to be tolerant and let defective members of the species participate. If we were animals in the wild, your legs would be broken and you'd be left out overnight for the wolves to find.

Any Gadamer pros around? He seems pretty important - basically the man when it comes to hermeneutics, which is essentially the conclusion of the Neo-Kantian project.

But I don't know much about him, would like to see if there are any better-read anons around who could tell us how we might approach his stuff fruitfully.
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>>7479339
I'd hate to see this thread 404 without a single reply so I'll contribute even though I've worked little on Gadamer.

From what I've seen, you could either approach him by diving straight into Truth & Method or read some essays he wrote (he wrote quite a few of them and they mostly reiterate his work in Truth & Method).

I don't think you really need to have read other philosophers in order to read him, just have a general idea about what modern philosophy, from Kant to Heidegger and the hermeneutical tradition is about. Reading Schleiermacher or Dilthey helps of course, but Gadamer isn't that difficult on his own.

The real difficulties come from reconciling hermeneutics with semiology, as a professor of mine said. It's no coincidence that the meeting between Derrida and Gadamer was unfruitful.
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I've read Truth and Method as well as a lot of Paul Ricoeur as far as Hermeneutics goes. It's honestly pretty easy to jump in if you know vaguely what Heidegger and Kant are about, as well as a little bit about historicism and textual interpretation in the Theological. tradition.

One thing people often don't realize is how crucial Aristotle is to T&M! Definitely have at least a basic understanding of him or a lot will simply be lost on you.

Ricoeur does some of this, but I think a lot more work could be done to bridge the gap between Hermeneutics and Wittgenstein/Analytic philosophy, or at least to show how they interact.
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>>7479339
Jumping straight in to T&M isn't too bad, just remember that he's going to take you on an Historical trip, so don't worry too much if you are lost.

Where Gadamer derives his conclusions aren't the only places the principles he describes can be found. Read some Ricoeur for some attempts to approach the ideas from places other than Kantianism vs. Romanticism. He does a lot from the standpoint of Psychoanalysis and Marxism.Historicism.

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Help me /lit/.
I want to learn world history without the authors' bias. It might be impossible, but could you recommend me some books?
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How the fuck can a turtle jump?
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>>7479243
Like any other animal that has the skill, but it actually makes just a short jump while extending its really long neck.
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was a 4 achieved by 2+2 or 3+1 ?
objective history begins after this problem is solved

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what is your favorite books, /lit/?
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This is my favorite book.

It is also, undeniably, the greatest book of all time.
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>>7479413
i've been reading it for the first time. i have to admit it is extremely comfy
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eugene onegin

What's the most fucked up book you've ever read?
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not that I finished it
once they got into shit-play I decided I had enough
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Hogg. Once you get over the shock it isn't actually very good, though.

Is this a good starting point?
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>>7479147
Starting point to what?
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>>7479152
Epikektus/Stoicism
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>>7479165
>Stoicism
this is better

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What's the worst fantasy series ever published?
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>>7479131
you cant top this.
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that's not shanananannarrraa

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I'm asking this here because it would be to embarrassing for a /sci/ post.
As a typical failure anon I have a real small scientific knowledge, ofcourse I know the common things like the atomic model and also the basic statements of stringtheory and theory of relativity, but pretty much only the explanations you would get on a mainstream TV-show, so I have no real deep theoretically knowledge about science, you could probably settle me in a sixth grade physic lesson and I would learn things I didn't know.
So can /lit/ recommend me scientific literature that could get me from only the most basic knowledge to understanding the theoretically concepts of quantum physics etc.?
I obviously know that that would be a longterm self-study but i'm up to spending a lot of time on it.
I don't really know where to start with physics / chemistry / biology sience pretty much every instruction to these topics already requires some kind of understanding to really grasp the theory behind it or it explains it to simply to use the knowledge for more advanced writings.
So does /lit/ have a good how-to-science chart or can you recommend me where to start?
Sorry for the plebian question.
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>>7479096
the ego and his own
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Wikipedia
Grade 7 science textbooks
Math is required, prep anus
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start with the Greeks

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/lit/ I've recently collected about 10 or so thick ass, dense, good books on philosophy, political economy, capitalism, the deep state, CIA counter-intelligence etc. etc. (each 400+ pages) online for free in PDF form. However, I fucking hate reading books on a screen because the glare hurts my eyes over long periods and it's just not /comfy/
>inb4 blind oldfag

So.... are there shops or warehouse stores or any places I can go to just print MegaShitLoad of pages I've saved on a USB drive and they will bind the pages together into book form for me?

Also, how much would this cost compared to just buying them straight up from a mega-bookstore like Barnes and Noble?

>yes, I looked for them in local public libraries but none of them have them. I do have a library card and I would have just checked them out if that was an option
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bumperinooo
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Just get an e-reader senpai
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>>7479146
This. I'm exactly like you OP and though my paperwhite pisses me of sometimes it's fucktons better than my phone

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The only correct course for humanity is to collectively contribute 100% of time and energy into unlocking immortality

prove me wrong
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I don't want to be immortal; we weren't meant to be immortal.
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>>7479076
the meaning of life is just to be yourself; if you do that you unlock true happiness

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Reminder that Shelley was, by some distance, the greatest Romantic poet.
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>>7479013
And a fugging beast in bed.
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agreed desu
Was just reading Orpheus, one of his lesser-known fragments:

It is the wandering voice of Orpheus' lyre,
Borne by the winds, who sigh that their rude king
Hurries them fast from these air-feeding notes;
But in their speed they bear along with them
The waning sound, scattering it like dew
Upon the startled sense.

If he (and Keats too) hadn't died so young his achievements would have pissed all over Shakespeare.
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>>7479037
source?

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Can someone crit an excerpt from a short I am writing? I am a schizophrenic and i think the disorganization comes across in my writing. That's the only time it's actually interesting in my opinion, and not debilitating. I can post something better if anyones interested this is just a first draft.
This will be the second part, the first is about a framed dead scorpion i was given as a gift coming to life in my dreams and then me becoming obsessed with the image and seeing it everywhere. Here is the second part, based somewhat on past experience...
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Now I'll tell you the story of the first time I killed a man.
It was a warm December, when I was much younger, and a big drinker. My friends at the time shared my passion for intoxication, but at only 18 years old we were pressured to find accomodating locales. Nicholas tipped us off, “why not try church street? We can pretend to be young couples.” Church street was of course the gay district of the city and we never had a problem getting inside. About a block away from our destination we would begin walking two by two, arms draped over shoulders and giving drunk kisses on cheeks. When we got to the door the Man would step aside and give us big smiles and hellos! And once inside we would be greeted with a concoction of cigarette and cologne cocktail that I still remember like a warm family party in my grandparents wood furnished basement, my uncles drinking and drinking and taunting me with their slurred compassion. “Have a beer! What do you want? Whiskey?!” And I would always say no, no. And I would never say “I can't have just one.”
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>>7478952
So now I can tell you about the man I murdered.
He was a black fellow that approached me as I was leaning on a pillar, in the middle of the dance floor. Blacker and bigger than I had ever seen in this place. He introduced himself with a dreamy sentence, like so many before him, with brevity that I came to admire of old lecherous vampires like him. He said, “Can I buy you a drink, handsome?” The prize of alcohol always claimed my enthusiasm, something that has never left me, except on depressed and hungover evenings, when the moon glares through my window and I am so alone.
My friends had left me with my date, making off with their own stash, or chugging unattended drinks, sometimes boldly swallowing a man's drink, batting a cat like smile and shrugging outside for a cigarette. My reservation was dangerously waning this evening, and when the man suggested we take a walk, I bartered a drink for when we got back and agreed to leave with him, knowing without a child's doubt what he was looking for. He passed me a ten on our way out the door, and I took it without looking his way.
The alleyway next to the bar was long and deserted, illuminated by one street light beside a rusted iron door. The man started kissing my face, passionately, but gentle. I dreamed I was his daughter and I became extremely comfortable in his presence, thinking excitedly of my new titanium switchblade. He slowly made his way down and began to feel for my limp cock. I took out the knife from my back pocket, moaning heavily with a cigarette in my mouth, and shoved the rainbow blade behind his temple. I pushed it in with such speed that he fell sideways to the ground, as if I had simply punched him. His bald head shook and he gurgled, as his hand shook and levitated over my knife and my stomach hurt no more than a shoplifter feels with a pack of earphones under his coat and I felt I could not reach down to retrieve my knife. It was his now. It was all his. When I got back to the bar my friends smiled at me, they were so drunk. Asking where I had been. I showed them my tenner and bought myself a vodka and tonic.
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self-diagnosed? what medication are you on?

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Do you consider Soumission pro-islamic?

I've heard it argued that Houellebecq approves of Islam because, while not being perfect, it's at least a healthy alternative to liberalism.
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>>7478949
It's definitely not anti-islam, the only thing it's against is pussy whipped liberals.
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>>7478993
also seems anti-socialist
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He is so fucking nasty looking. he has to try to look that bad..

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