Do any of you guys enjoy Superfluous Man characters? I feel like they are even more relevant today.
They would be if anyone could write one well today. I think the problem is we all became oblomov and so no one can write about it from an outside perspective. it'd be like trying to make yourself a convincing character in a novel.
>>7569904
I have yet to read Oblomov yet but from what I understand is a much nicer character then Pechorin?
>>7569904
/r/lewronggeneration
What sites do you use for an analysis of a book you just read? Sparknotes and cliffnotes seem to come up first on google searches, but I'm hoping there is something better out there.
>>7569790
>What sites do you use for an analysis of a book you just read?
i use this neat thing calledmy brain
>>7569798
I'm not as patrician as you. I didn't start with the greeks so I don't understand any of the symbolic references so well.
>>7569820
you won't be able to think deeply about something unless you practice. the best thing is to take a literary analysis class or have someone like a friend read the book and compare what you each took from it. assuming both of those are impossible for you you can try to google specific commentaries.
http://oyc.yale.edu/english/engl-300
I linked a free course that may help you.
Could anyone recommend some books to give me context for the myths in Ovid's Metamorphoses?
You don't need context bro
>>7569692
If you're interested in ovid's metamorphosis, this isn't bad.
Though -- if your Australian, you almost defiantly read it in Aussie lit.
Needless to say, it's a pretty easy read, but there's defiantly some good stuff in there
>>7569729
I want it tho ;___;
>>7569676
Nice haircut.
The only worthwhile Canadian intellectual.
How does one stay informed within the realms of contemporary literature?
Are you part of any comunity, online or otherwise, aside from /lit/?
It goes without saying that every great piece of writing ever to be published, was once in the contemporary, so it also goes without saying that our currant contemporary should be no different.
Personally, I mainly read books published between 1960-2000, which I class, in my own mind, to be semi-contemporary, but I'd own very few books post Y2K.
How can you justify reading something contemporary, of questionable hype and/or critical aclaim, over something older, with a more subjective promise?
Read the classics until you are 50.
Chapter 1: Elf in the apple
In such a starry night in New York City, James Peterson thought to himself that he had seen everything he wanted to see in his life. What was left? Nothing, nothing but silly thoughts from his childhood. He had seen everything he wanted to see -- the natural wonders of the world, joy and admiration in his friends's and relatives's faces, love in the eyes of beautiful ladies, and much more. What else could he ask for? Nothing, nothing at all, except silly things from his childhood.
He was not alone. He was with his friend, Alley McPeter, an aspiring young director of indie movies who had yet to make his masterpiece. Alley was far less satisfied than James, but he felt like he was on the right path. Always optimistic. He was drinking a cup of tea in Mary's Teashop, James sitting right in front of him.
-You know James, you really should fund that movie of mine...
-We've been through it, Alley! There is no point in funding anything, man, the paths of the self-made man must be carved alone.
-I'm just asking for a little help.
-It starts with a little help, Alley, until you start asking for help with everything. Don't lose your talent in a beggar's act.
Alley sighed. He was hoping James would hear him this time. James, however, was not interested in talking about Alley's new movie project. He wanted to talk about silly things from his childhood.
-You know Alley, you're a pretty imaginative guy. So I thought I should tell you this. When I was a kid I used to have this dream that I could... maybe I could really become an elf and live adventures in some sort of medieval landscape or something, you know?
-The fuck you talking about, James? What? - Alley laughed, not taking James's confession seriously.
-I mean it, man, you know I was always a fan of those medieval fantasy novels... as a kid, all I could think about was whether I would like to be an elf or a dwarf. I think I really would like to be an elf now, they're taller than dwarves and thus have a better chance with women.
>>7569500
-Cut the crap, James, I'm not here to fall for one of your practical jokes. I really think my next movie will be a big one, you should -- but Alley couldn't even finish his sentence before James interrupted him again.
-I really think you should respect me, Alley. No? You know, we're friends, and when a friend tells you about his childhood, you... listen. With careful attention. With extra careful attention and focus. And love. Love is beautiful, no? It's what they showered me with when I was a kid... but back then I knew not what love was, oh no I didn't, and so I buried myself in those fantasy books.
-James... are you alright? This is starting to get weird -- Alley was faking a laughter, trying to put an end to a most strange situation.
-I AM ALRIGHT, ALLEY! JUST DON'T INTERRUPT ME WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT MY CHILDHOOD, MAN! I AM AN ADULT NOW!!
Alley was in shock. The whole teahouse was staring at them. James appeared nervous, he was sweating, but grinning. Suddenly, he screamed again.
-ALLEY YOU KNOW NOT EVERY MAN HAS THE CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT HIS CHILDHOOD, DON'T YOU, YOU MOTHERFUCKER? YOU THINK I'M FUCKING PLAYING WITH YOU, MAN? PLAY WITH MY FUCKING FACE, I FUCKING DARE YOU FUCK.
At this point, two men from a table across the room started shouting at James, telling him to shut up and leave the Teahouse. A waitress nervously approached James and asked him to leave the place. Alley was also told to leave, but what he really wanted to do was to disappear completely from the face of the earth, to bury his head in the ground. The embarrassment was too much.
James looked back at the waitress.
-Oh, I'll sue you. You can't tell me to leave an establishment like that just because I was shouting. It's not fair. What if I was deaf or couldn't control my voice? Think about that, sweetheart.
The waitress stared at him in confusion, and couldn't manage to mumble any words before James got up and left the place. Alley picked up his hat and covered his face with it, and left the place immediately after James, without saying a word.
>>7569505
As soon as Alley left the teahouse, he felt someone grabbing his arm. It was James.
-Where are you going, boy?
-I don't want to talk to you anymore, man, that was emba-- Alley was so nervous he couldn't even finish his sentence. He couldn't believe what was happening to him. He had always been very shy, and what had just happened seemed to him like some kind of disaster. Worse yet, it had reminded him of a few bad things from his own childhood.
-You should've let me talk about my childhood, man.
-FUCK YOU! -- Alley yelled, quickly taking distance from James. James stared at him from the distance.
-You know when to call me, Alley. I got money, remember? Don't let your dreams die, Alley boy.
Alley ignored his words and quickly got into a taxi cab, asking the driver to take him to his apartment as fast as possible. He just wanted to get away from James and the whole situation.
James slowly walked across the pavement. He then smirked and thought to himself: "he'll come back. I got the money. I always got the money. I always get what I want. Except those elf ears."
He clasped his hands. "James, James", he thought to himself, "you know you're a stallion. A stallion who's thirsty for blood. For a good race. A good rush of blood. You're not one of those horses destined to pull the wagon until the muscles give in..."
James's eyes were fixed at an empty point in space about a thousand yards from where he was standing. He put his hands inside his pockets and walked all the way to his home, alone with his own thoughts.
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So, what do you think about her, /lit/?
>>7569416
I have tried, but I can't (Woman). She sounded distrought and desperate. Why she turned to Catholicism is also a mystery to me. She was Jewish. And despite her conversion, she got deported to Auzschwitz and died there.
>>7569445
>I have tried, but I can't (Woman). She sounded distrought and desperate.
what do you mean?
> And despite her conversion, she got deported to Auzschwitz and died there.
not surprising, a lot of Catholics were killed in the holocaust
>>7569445
Jews were killed because of their ethnicity
I didn't read a single book that came out last year. Did I miss anything or is there really not a single good one worth recommending? 2015 literature pls recommend.
The Jamaican fag's novel about the pothead singer getting shot is supposed to be pretty good. But I haven't read it so I don't know,
>>7569372
Tom McCarthy's Satin Island was pretty good
Are there any nihilist philosophers in the sense of "will to nothingness" rather than "it means nothing"?
>>7569317
I'd argue we start to see this in the later Freud. Beyond the Pleasure Principle pushes in this direction.
>>7569354
todestrieb
>>7569354
Is this worth reading unprepared?
What are some weird and surreal plays I should read?
>>7569292
Why do you want to read a play? They're meant to be watched, silly.
Heathers is good, though the movie was better.
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
>>7569304
I have to present a script in my acting class for other people to do a short scene from. It will eventually be watched, but first read.
>...Here's a medium shot, himself backlit, alone at the high window in the Grand Hotel, whisky glass tipped at the bright subarctic sky and here's to you then, chaps, it'll be all of us up there onstage tomorrow, Ned Pointsman only happened to survive that's all...
I didn't ask for this feeling. Post other lines that made you feel like no other
That's supposed to be funny retard. He's being fake humble while he masturbates to his egomaniacal fantasy of getting an award for the work his colleagues did
What are some good books about future predictions? Specifically, books about the advance of technology (AI, nanotechnology, smart cities, Internet of Things), post-scarcity society, globalization. etc.
I don't want novels, I want a book written by a serious author that's credible in the field and not some 20-year-old college nerd who cums when he hears the world "Singularity".
>>7569181
Lem maybe ?
>>7569223
Something a bit more updated, desu. Written post-2010. Something like The Next 100 Years or Abundance.
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>be me
>have to sign my name on chemistry safety contract
>due next month
>still haven't started
>still browsing /lit/
how fucked am I?
>>7569128
Extremely
Here is a simple game: if you opine on ONE of the three authors below (whether you have read them or not) you are allowed to post three more authors or books of your choice.
There is only one rule:
- opinions must contain at least three sentences and must imply you've read it.
to get it rolling:
Nietzsche
Shakespeare
Dostoyevsky - Crime and Punishment
>Dostoyevsky - Crime and Punishment
queen Nab did in his lectures some iconoclasm over old Dosto being priggish regarding to lady Marmalade and her yellow ticket. He did complain it was stereotype that she was forced to pursue her profession by pure circumstance, it was a stereotype she had a heart of gold, it was stereotype she was put in one line with a murderer in contrast to "the holy book". His main complaint was the big narrative: that a strawman's "i am play God" results invariably in perdition or repentance. But: he praised old Dosto for some Hollywood style scenes. I found the novel far too slow and all his characters like cardboard cut outs: evil calculating protestant; a sadist Russian landowner; a dull and but wealthy Russian bourgeois; a supernatural policeman representing the law. It read to me much like a teenage fanfic where the main thing was the mood. Dunno why he is so cherished.
Tolkien - the Hobbit
Steve Gardner - Grendel
Nietzsche - Thus Spake Zarathustra
Camus - the Stranger (because Fuck You, rules)
New to poetry and all my pleb tastes like are less flowery poetry like bukowski. Just got this book and love it, and reccomendations?
>>7568881
Yes. The sticky.
>>7568881
Sylvia Plath, Frank O'Hara, Leonard Cohen, Allen Ginsberg are all pretty nice, easy to get into stuff you probably would like if you like Bukowski