Should I try to teach myself creative writing the "proper" way or just read a metric fuckton and try to learn that way?I am a NEET who will kill himself if he doesn't write something he's happy with soon so I have plenty of time for either I just was wondering which you think is better
>>7584165
What is the proper way? And why not both?
>>7584169
>What is the proper way
I don't know that's why I made this thread
>And why not both?
I don't know, see above
I'm mainly just asking what works for you m8
>>7584174
He meant what are you referring to when you ask if you should learn the "proper" way?
Writing a lot is the most important part. Getting honest feedback from other people is the other most important part. Also read a lot.
If you can find a good teacher that will help too but the other things are necessary.
Thoughts?
>>7584114
didn't bother to read all of it
is it basically zizek?
i read the coming insurrection
>>7584114
Haven't gotten around to it yet. Skimmed a little bit though and it seemed like the kind of wankery I would enjoy
>>7584114
Read it an loved it.
It has nice prose, even if it is a bit gaudy at times. The analysis focusses more on the geography of domination than in the first volume, and it has really neat insight on the concept of networks.
Would recommand!
I need some secondary sources about Critique of pure reason. Especially video, that treats the matter more approfonditely.
Also, Kant general I guess.
I bump this thread
>>7584081
Allison's Kant's Transcendental Idealism is very popular. From there, you've got Guyer's work and Langton's Kantian Humility.
>>7584123
thanks.
anyone has some video recommendations?
>"He walked out in the gray light and stood and he saw for a brief moment the absolute truth of the world. The cold relentless circling of the intestate earth. Darkness implacable. The blind dogs of the sun in their running. The crushing black vacuum of the universe. And somewhere two hunted animals trembling like ground-foxes in their cover. Borrowed time and borrowed world and borrowed eyes with which to sorrow it."
How does he do it /lit/? How does he wield his description with such paralyzing accuracy? I feel like Cormac McCarthy is the kind of author that makes all other authors redundant.
>piss away, boys
>>7584066
You haven't read enough brah
Why was he so right?
>>7584051
because of mescaline.
>>7584051
dude
weed
lmao
>>7584057
Elaborate please. I don't believe that he smoked weed, just cigarettes in his younger days.
When to tackle the holy GOAT?
What to read beforehand?
START
>>7583929
Elaborate on your comment "START"
These are the very rough essentials imo. There's more but it all depends on how much you want to read beforehand I guess
Old Testament
The Iliad
Beowulf, Song of Roland, etc.
Don Quixote
A good chunk of Shakespeare
Dostoyevsky
Flaubert
Stendhal
Proust
Joyce
What traits define literary genius? In my opinion, literary geniuses are people with acute observational skills, a powerful ability to introspect, and a heightened sensitivity to human emotions. (Of course, there will be outliers that fuck up this definition, but I overall think it's relatively accurate) What does /lit think?
>>7583921
i think it involves having a vast vision of being human which is independent of historical circumstances and then developing language to capture it, bending and forcing language in new ways in the process
don't see it discussed on /lit
thoughts, thinking of picking it up even though it costs like 30€ where im at
>don't see it discussed on /lit
is u srs nigga
>>7583920
>reading translations
>>7583925
granted i'm not here all the time but you'd think for every 2665 infinite jest posts i'd come across one about 2666
Has anyone here written a piece of dialogue or a joke that sounds brilliant when read but sounds terrible when actually said out loud?
Can anyone else relate?
>>7583898
my diary desu
>>7583898
Basically everything I do
Anything I think always sounds good to me but then ends up horribly wrong as soon as I share it
>>7583969
Maybe try reading it out loud prior to sharing
How do I get into linguistics, /lit/?
>>7583768
by quiting anime
Get an introductory linguistics textbook.
Living Language - Ahearn for a basic Intro to sociolinguistics/some linguistic theory
Language Files for intro to syntax/morphology and the like
Is there a better book about human behavior and influence that this?
>>7583761
No, honestly.
>>7583761
just be yourself xd : the book
>>7583761
>is there a better book about human behavior
I can think of 100
I see a lot of advice here about reading a lot to diversify your writing style. The more you read the better you can write. I think this is true, and besides reading a lot is always going to be better than not reading at all, but is there any merit in the imitation of a particular author? With enough practice can your imitation be as good, or even better, as the real thing?
Do any of the writers here practice imitation in this way?
I practice involuntary imitation.
It works about as long as it takes for people to figure out which authors I'm ripping off.
>>7583716
>It works about as long as it takes for people to figure out which authors I'm ripping off
I think there is a huge difference between a stylistic imitation and ripping off. You could imitate michaelangelo and, if you were really good at it, I don't think people wouldn't be thinking about you being a plagiarist. I think they would be marveling at the art.
Imitation of style is the "natural" way of learning about writing. Of course to be better it comes down to the balance of content.
Looking at examples though the most famous of the imitations are the ones that adds to the style and develop it beyond the original.
I'm interested in books that explore non-western ideas about morality/ethics. Any recs?
Infinite Jest
>>7583720
Done that already
>>7583694
>dat pic
>>7582547
Favorite books as a kid?
I really liked this one. I was surprised to find out there was also one made based off Norse mythology.
>>7583682
Wow why was it linking to that post? Sorry about that.
ulysses
>>7583682
Oh shit nigger I had that book too. Shit was great.
Can we talk about this? I've read it a couple times now for one of my classes and I'm still unable to grasp completely what Blake is talking about. I understand that he's advocating for the existence of both good and evil, but what else? Which of the proverbs matter most and why?
To expand a bit, I'm interested by the lines:
"The cut worm forgives the plow."
and
"The fox condemns the trap not himself."
In the first I assume the worm is forgiving the object itself and not the wielder of the object.
And if the fox is cunning why would he condemn the trap instead of himself for falling into the trap? And why not condemn the setter of the trap?
>>7583685
Wasn't Blake nearly parodying parables in some of his works? I feel that's what may be going on here...
>>7583662
>>7583685
At the simplest level, God made the world and he made it perfect. Therefore Heaven and Hell are both perfect, and their Good and Evil is also perfect.
You can also see this when Blake has the dream about the Angel taking him to hell and telling him how much his life is going to suck for him down there and he just keeps chilling because he knows God and the universe is good.
>"The cut worm forgives the plow."
>"The fox condemns the trap not himself."
Compared to animals, man is like God. So when we are "cut" and "condemned," we forgive God for letting us die because it's his will and therefore the best possible for us.
Look at Thel experiencing the same thing. She knows she'll be wormfood one day but doesn't hate and turn away from God because of it.