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Just finished this, thanks for the recommendation /lit/. I guess part of the whole novel's purpose is to what degree you sympathize with the narrator, whether or not he's reliable, etc. I thought it was a great read, although I wasn't crazy about the ending. Discuss?
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>>7600088
The whole novel was a commentary on propaganda and media spin.
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I like the ending because I took it as the only happy ending is everyone dies I think it's meant to be kind of a guilty 'good.' than an 'aw that's sad'.
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>>7600096
Care to elaborate on this? I'm interested.
>>7600106
Yeah, I see your point.

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does anyone here work in publishing? what is it like?
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That's a big suit
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>>7600061
For you.
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>>7600061
4 U XDDDDD

upboat please

Fuck off back to reddit

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Let's have a big old discussion about Authorial Intent

>Does it matter when reading a text and creating an interpretation?
>Can something about the author be meaningfully gleaned from a text?
>Are readings of a text that differ from the author's intent invalid?
>If readings that differ from authorial intent aren't invalid, are any readings of a text invalid?
>Does the process of attempting to remove context from the evaluation of a work harm the reader in any way?
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Depends on the work and how you want to read it. If your want to study how bias a source is, say the Peloponnesian War, it would be important to know about Thucydides and Cleon.
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>>7599791
It's just a tool. I think it's more effective as a measuring stick by which you can measure their effectiveness as craftsmen in successfully crafting a work that embodies their intentions. However, the author is only one of many of the links that intersect at the point of the text in order to produce meaning.
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>babby's first literary theory

mate reading the fucking wikipedia article will get you better discussion than you're gonna get here.

the tldr is death of the author and intentional fallacy tends to get paraded around by freshmen who just took lit theory 101 as the end all be all of literary criticism because they think it's so cool and edgy (and helps them project whatever shitty interpretation they have on the text and defend it from criticism cuz "muh death of the author")

people who actually work in the field take a much more nuanced version (hence the, you know, decades of literary theories that followed after death of the author/intentional fallacy) that apply different theories and frameworks as needed. authorial intent has it's place, and so does intentional fallacy, but threads/discussions like that that try to pigeonhole it into good/bad/useful/unuseful dichotomies are pretty pointless

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Hello /lit/
I, for long used my Kobo to read Epub, but many books that interest me are in pdf, and I think we all agree that it's horrible to read on Kobo.
I've came to ask if any of you know a way to change the program with a better one, more adapted to pdf reading, like you can do with RockBox for some walkman.
I, in advance, apologize if you can't understood someparts of what I wrote, english isn't my first langage so sometimes my sentences may seems strange.
Thanks
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>>7599554

Calibre
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>>7599572
I tried calibre, but it fail to convert correctly pdf to epub, the sentences seems randomly placed on the page
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>>7599617

I'm not sure there's really a good program for converting pdf to some kind of text. It's a process that goes against the pdf format in a way, which is designed to lock up elements on a page.

ITT: we go on amazon and find the most cringeworthy reviews we can for esteemed books
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>>7599421
I don't know, guess he just wanted to read child porn but got literature instead
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>>7599448
Reaction, might be even more cringeworthy
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I'm about to start part 3 of Crime and Punishment and I can't help but worry that the P&V translation has scratched some of the beauty of Dostoevsky with some of their awkward phrasing after reading Oliver Ready's handle on some of the more gripping passages. It just seems like the superior translation, localised with just the right amount of colloquialism and nice shading of imagery as shown below.

>In Part I, Chapter 5, Raskolnikov dreams of a scene from childhood — a cart-driver has overloaded his cart with passengers and is beating his nag, urging her to move when she clearly can’t manage:

“Daddy! Daddy!” he shouts to his father. “What are they doing, Daddy? Daddy, they’re beating the poor little horse!”

“Come on, boy!” says the father. “Just drunken idiots fooling around: off we go, boy, don’t look!” — and tries to lead him away, but he breaks free of his grasp and, quite beside himself, runs to the horse. But the poor little horse is in a bad way. She’s struggling for breath, stops, gives another tug and almost falls.

“Flog ‘er till she drops!” shouts Mikolka. “She’s asking for it. I’ll flog ‘er dead!”

“Where’s your fear of God, you mad beast?” yells an old man in the crowd.


Should I stick with P&V for consistency in the final stretch or abandon ship and go with Ready's translation?
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All translations butcher it, anon.
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>>7598605
Hello Reddit!
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Go with the McDuff translation, anon.

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>Start writing
>Write around 200 words
>Look at what you wrote
>It's shit
>Lose momentum
How can I change this?
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Use an app that locks you into continuing forward

Handwrite on tiny pages so you can't see what you already have

Stop being a pussy faggot

Idk just some options
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Keep writing, don't look back until the editing process. Then, when you edit, whatever you find shitty you'll just trash and rewrite. You wrote 300 pages and 128 are shit? Trash 'em and rewrite.
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>try to write as meticulously and thoughtfully as possible
>end up with perfect sentences and story that's moving along well
>tfw work at a terribly slow pace and can't get anything done in a reasonable amount of time this way

>try to let myself lose and get the words flow out
>get a great amount of work done
>tfw errors everywhere, story's messy as shit, and overall looks like the ramblings of a madman

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What software do you use to write? What do the pros use? I've tried the free Abiword, but something about it just doesn't seem right.
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Long hand.
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TeXworks
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I prefer writing with a pencil but it's inconvenient to revise outside of Word. The best chapters of my manuscript were drafted longhand first

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Best plays thread

hard mode - no Shakespeare
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Tamburlaine part 1
The Spanish Tragedy
Knight of the Burning Pestle
Volpone
etc
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Electra
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Does /lit/ have a guide to theater guide floating around somewhere? If not someone should make one.

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Ulysses just came in the mail, I opened it up and this is what I see.

Where the fuck are the quotation marks? Why are there these dashes where the quotation marks are supposed to be?
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decently creative bait, 6/10

run along now
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nah it's a pretty well known misprint. hold on to that copy though. it might be collector's item one day. wait until you find the page where all the periods are commas and the commas periods.
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>>7601363
Not bait man, I'm serious. The book was written in 1922 wasn't it? Why are there no punctuation marks in it? Older books used them.

>>7601365
Seriously? The copy I got is the Everyman's Library one so it's nothing special, I think.

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Google couldn't help.

How to handle it?

Any good books on the topic?

Or any books that object to the concept or others that build on it?

Would appreciate it.
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didd u try reading sartre
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>>7601089
I did. Where else would I get the concept from? He defines its causes and implications but not much else.
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>>7601089
>>7601092
Don't be put-off by the comic I just picked it off goggle images. I don't mean to concept of radical freedom's implications against society but against itself (the "self").

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Is anything by Salman Rushdie actually worth reading or is he just popular because of the fatwa?
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I've heard Midnight's Children is really good, so it's not like you are required to read Satanic Verses to enjoy him.

Read his short story, The Prophet's Hair. It's pretty good and as far as I know a good introduction of his style

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being the German kid in the 20's in Los Angeles
was difficult.
there was much anti-German feeling then,
a carry-over from World War 1.
gangs of kids chased me through the neighborhood
yelling, 'Hieneie! Hieneie! Hienie!'
they never caught me.
I was like a cat.
I knew all the paths through brush and alleys.
I scaled 6-foot back fences in a flash and was off through
backyards and around blocks
and onto garage roofs and other hiding places.
then too, they didn't really want to catch me.
they were afraid I might bayonet them
or gouge out their eyes.

this went on for about 18 months
then all of a sudden it seemed to stop.
I was more or less accepted(but never really)
which was all right with me.
those sons-of-bitches were Americans,
they and their parents had been born here.
they had names like Jones and Sullivan and
Baker.
they were pale and often fat with runny
noses and big belt buckles.
I decided never to become an American.
my hero was Baron Manfred von Richthofen
the German air ace;
he'd shot down 80 of their best
and there was nothing they could do about
that now.
their parents didn't like my parents
(I didn't either) and
I decided when I got big I'd go live in some place
like Iceland,
never open my door to anybody and live on my
luck, live with a beautiful wife and a bunch of wild
animals:
which is, more or less, what
happened
Thoughts?
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Based Buk

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Kindle users come hither

I am skint both of money and reading material so I am raking the kindle store for freebies. Has anyone found anything particularly good that isnt a classic found in every bookcase?
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>>7600834
Look up "Library Genesis" and download Calibre
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>>7600834
Bookzz.org
Btdigg
Mobilism.org
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>>7600834
>so I am raking the kindle store for freebies

If you're using the kindle store for anything you're doing it wrong.

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Picked these up at the local Goodwill store an hour ago. I was looking for a copy of infinite jest but came up empty. I guess people are reluctant to donate it cause it gives their shelves so much elite reader cred.

My question is which of these do I read first? Which should go straight into the trash?
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Dump them all except for Melville and Homer
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They were cheap enough so that I won't feel bad if I never read a few of them.

>>7600549
Is that a decent translation of Homer?
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>>7600549
Actually, this is good advice OP.

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