Has anyone read 120 days of Sodom? Is it worth the read beyond the visceral affectations?
>>7594541
i jerked off to it
>>7594541
Too many people read this one as an introductory.
I hear you should start with one of his others
What was the one called.. Philosophy in the Bedroom, I think.
>>7594551
Yeah that's one of his. I'll look into it, although, I don't quite understand the necessity. Could you elaborate on your point?
Reading this, is he really this generation's Orwell? I'm half way through and inclined to believe so.
>>7592991
Far too obsessed with identity politics to be considered on the same level as Orwell
>Russel Brand
Kek
Russell Brand is "our generation's John Ruskin"
-Stephen Hawking
>>7592991
It's amazing that Brand has that surname. Time to adopt Russel Brand as the signifier for lazy champagne-socialism and faux-spirituality which is really nothing but a mask to indulge in even more hedonism. Russell Brand philosophy for affluent, bored millennials.
Is there a philosopher that explains existence itself as will to nothingness, sort of like a realistic counterpart to Nietzsche?
Conspiracy Against the Human Race
Heidegger
Nonbeing is the ground of being. All the vagaries and problems of being are finally reconciled in the Nonbeing that conditions it
>>7589637
Zen Buddhism is probably the most radically nihilistic thing ever
I'll start:
I would like to read a prose translation of the iliad and the odyssey along with the fagles translations I have.
I found an old prose translation in my parents basement by E.V. Rieu, and after reading the first few pages I found it to be quite good as a supplement to the fagles edition.
nigga the fagles translation basically is a prose translation, god knows it wasn't trying to be poetic
>>7586831
If like to read Pope as well
What is this shit. Why would anyone want the Iliad in prose? This was an oral tradition. You think Homer belted it out like the audio version of some John Grisham shit?
Ah yeah Kindle this is what I want to read.
>He still hasn't read ALPHA BILLIONAIRE
Holy pleb
I finally finished a short story that I'm somewhat happy with. Where do I even begin to look for somewhere to submit it?
Any advice on submitting short stories to magazines or publishers?
I would also like an answer to this
>>7602144
>not leaving in it a secret place to be published after you die
Seriously, unless your story is deliberately pandered to a certain trendy audience, you won't get it published.
>>7602144
kill yourself, frog faggot
>Cormac McCarthy will die in your lifetime
>Gene Wolfe will die in your lifetime
>Thomas Pynchon will die in your lifetime
>Thomas Littell will die in your lifetime
What books can I read that will help me come to terms with my own mortality?
>>7601971
Schopenhauer's On Women
Hitler's Mein Kampf
Spengler's Decline of the West
Evola
The Culture of Critique Series
You'll want off this ride as soon as possible when you realize how degenerate this world is and have taken the redpill
Literally who?
Kek. /mu/ was right. All you guys do is circlejerk some old white dudes and pretend to be patrician. Bunch of fucking sheep.
>>7601976
Pretty unsurprisingly, the music board's area of expertise is music. The problem lies with you, not with the authors.
Raphèl maí amèche zabí almi
what does it mean /lit/?
what was Nimrod so desperatly screaming at Dante and Virgil as leave the central pit of hell?
It's gibberish, anon. Meaningless words with some sort of hebraic-ish accent. Remember that Nimrod is the king of babel, and like Virgil says in XXXI, 76 he doesnt speak a language known to man
Thoughts on Robert Anton Wilson and his works?
better than Leary Or Mckenna
Illuminatus was a rocky road of highs and lows
Even with all its reputation it wasn't at all what I expected. It's more South Park than Pynchon.
thanks god it's not pynchon.
great quote from illuminatus:
"It's only true if it makes you laugh, but you only truly understand it when it makes you weep"
I need some opinions. I'm writing on a project (hopefully a book) with an omniscient narrator, but I'm thinking of having narrator actually communicate with the characters. I know it's really odd and a bit too experimental, but I have a reason behind this. The book itself is about (well, it's more specific than this, but I'm not going to give away specifics in case my concepts are stolen [I'm sure none of the writers on /lit/ would honestly blame me]) grief and lack of closure (or the delay of closure), and I'm thinking I want an omniscient narrator that's the manifestation of the collective grief of the characters in the narrative. So in this case, I think the narrator speaking to the characters might actually work, even sometimes speaking to the reading (ie, talking to the reader in actual imperative verbs).
Is this a bad choice? I mean, obviously I'm still going to through with it, but I'd still like to hear some thoughts on the matter. The only other instance where I can think of a 3rd person narrator speaking to a character is Ironweed by William Kennedy.
Shameful self-bump.
Dude what are you even talking about, dont ramble. I'm not even sure what you're asking. A 3rd person narrator that talks to the other characters? Isnt that just 1st person?
>>7601787
you're being kind of a faggot
you want us to help you but because you think your idea might be "stolen" (seriously OP, i'm sure whatever you have going has been done before and much better if it relies on some gimmick that can't be revealed to us) you give no context as to why that choice would make any sense and so we really can't be fucked to think about it
thoughts?
Opinions?
>>7601751
i really like it but i'm german an did read it in it's original german version and i guess there has been quite a lot lost in translation.
it's basically a 500 page love-letter to literature in a weird-funny fanatsy-world, a little like pratchett but better, with more effort, a little deeper. also it's incredibly well written in regards of immersion, you really really dive into this world of literature. there are also a lot of remarks to classical literature and writing and so on, so... yeah, good read and sadly very underrated in the us to my opinion.
>>7601759
Try putting that in the OP next time, anon.
I did like your analysis though.
>character in a russian novel mentions Schiller, Byron, or Goethe
>>7601613
>reading an english translation of a russian novel
>not comprehending the fact that people have been furiously translating works since there was more than one known language.
Did you forget to take your trendy friendly butt plug out or something, Jim?
>>7601630
You're clearly misinterpreting my post. Try reading more and maybe you'll get it
>character in Russian novel starts speaking in French
>when you read a book and it references another classic and spoils the ending for it
>>7601587
>reading for plot
>>7601589
>not equally enjoying plot, prose and message
ISHYGDDT
>>7601595
>reading for enjoyment
What are some Bloom approved books?
Hard mode, no Pyny, Roth, Donnie D or Ermac Mcarthur.
I'm surprised this one is
>>7601265
Northrop Frye's Anatomy of Criticism
>>7601265
Why surprised? Bloom's an idiot.
>>7601308
Surprised because it seems uncharacteristic of Bloom, or surprised because it's bad?
I personally loved Cat's Cradle. It saddens me when people either hate it or they enjoy it but feel they have to qualify that enjoyment by conceding its simplicity—as if complexity itself is a literary virtue. I mean, if you hated it, fine. I'd just like to combat the trend of people hesitating to avow their enjoyment of Vonnegut because they're afraid it puts them in an intellectually inferior position. Meanwhile, the smug continue to criticize anything and everything, in order to evade any opportunity of being ridiculed.
I was interested in philosophy but never took a course in university. I read some abridged version of the Trojan War when i was in grade six and it was a favorite book of mine growing up and i picked some other book detailing Greek mythology.
I need an intro to philosophy. Im not talking just about the western school of thought, although i've started with the greeks. Im reading the illiad and will follow it up with the odyssey. What are other books that i should pick up? Im interested in eastern and indian phil too. I read Siddhartha a few years ago and I didnt really gain any insight from it other than thinking that it was kinda narcissistic. I might have to read it again
siddhartha is dumb, don't waste your time rereading. just a simple book for young people.
for what it's worth, if you found siddhartha narcissistic, you may end up finding most of eastern philosophy gives you the same feeling. It's very self-centered. While the west was focusing on the ideas that lead to democracy and other such things, the equality of all, the east was focusing on the role of personal development.
I don't have time to advise you on specific books. Good luck.
>>7600865
Read these books, in this order:
Ancient Philosophy
Plato: Republic
Aristotle: Nicomachean Ethics, Politics
Medieval Philosophy
Boethius: Consolation of Philosophy
Aquinas: his commentaries on the Plato and Aristotle books above desu senpai (optional for now)
Early Modern Philosophy:
Descartes: Meditations on First Philosophy
Hume: Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding
Spinoza: Ethics (optional for now)
Kant: stick to secondary sources for now (he's really hard to read, so it's good to ease yourself in, especially if you're doing it without a teacher), but do have the original text right beside you - specifically, Prolegomena To Any Future Metaphysics and Groundwork For The Metaphysics Of Morals
You're now in a much better position with regards to being in a position to understand philosophy. If you read all those, you'll get a pretty good idea of what you might like too.
Yeah, I've left a lot off that list, but this is just to give you the faintest idea. Stay on /his/ and /lit/ and you'll come to know where to go next in terms of what books to read afterwards.
>>7600873
i am all for personal development but i didnt like siddhartha because of his woe is me for enjoying all earthly pleasures and giving it all away. I mean the guy was born with a sliver spoon, got an education, partied hard, has mid life crisis and lives by himself. I just find that this is the same "based on a true" sob story that nets in millions of dollar through books and movies
>>7600893
Thanks. Is there a list for the eastern/indian schools of thought?