Hey /lit/, is it normal that I can't stand some of the writing in this?
It's my girlfriends favorite book and I'd love to be able to talk about it with her but I'm a few pages in and his abuse of adverbs and using countless alternatives to "said" or "asked" drive me insane. He has some brilliant ways of describing scenery but the dialogue is so distractingly bad that I can't enjoy the book
Does anyone feel the same way? Should I keep reading? Am I ignorant? What's the deal here
>>7625937
pleb af
I couldn't stand how alpha, successful, racially-aware Tom was the "bad guy" and Gatsby the effeminate beta criminal was the "good guy." Fitzgerald could turn a sentence, though. Only in high school curricula as a lazy means of 'teaching' symbolism.
>>7625937
Don't interpret this as me saying The Great Gatsby is bad, but if The Great Gatsby is her favorite book, then she probably doesn't have much to say about it herself.
Do I really need to read the Presocratics?
is that picture from the silence of the lambs? i hear someone gets their nosie nose eaten in that one
they're all fucking hilarious, so maybe. if you're into the history of knowledge, it couldn't hurt
anaxagoras is a trip; full of wrong, but a trip
>>7625678
Heraclitus and Parmenides are essential imo.
Hello /lit/, I am a pleb. I don't really know anything about literature that you guys would take seriously. It's not like I don't read, it's just that I don't read the right things. I just finished Call of the Wild and I will soon start Lord of the Flies. What I'm asking is, what should I read and know that will earn me some respect around here? I get into books easily, so give me your worst (best
Pic, though unrelated, is my style and I was hoping maybe you could even help me find books relating.
>>7625517
Finnegans Wake.
If you want personal advice, delve into Thoreau and Emerson once you have a bit more reading under your belt, you will enjoy the themes but struggle with the prose possibly, push through and then continue to read more shit you like
>>7625517
The Tunnel.
Is Mr. Karl Dilkington the greatest philosopher of the modern era?
>>7625383
hes funnier than that cackling fuck Gervaise, whatever that counts for
>>7625383
The philosophy of apathy?
>>7625409
Idiology.
If I have trouble reading The Divine Comedy am I just retarded and illiterate?
>>7624573
Pick up a translation, moron
>>7624573
I read it in 7th grade, and that was in 96 before wikipedia led everyone else by the dick
>>7624573
It depend of the translation, and in all case, that's not an easy book to read
Let us discuss this genuinly exquisite and sui generis astute description of our cosmos, which, I believe, also to be the one work that once and for all proved rationalist philosophy to be philosophy proper.
"My son once brought home a book of Spinoza's Ethics; I looked through -- this jerkass doesn't know a thing about physics! I then was sure never to let my boy read a single page of that mumbo-jumbo" - Feynman, Lectures on Physics, P. 243
>>7623737
"My son once brought home a book of Feynman's Lectures on Physics; I looked through -- this jerkass doesn't know a thing about philosophy! I then was sure never to let my boy read a single page of that mumbo-jumbo" - Anonymous, 4chan /lit/ board, thread 7623700
>>7623747
>he hasn't read Feynman's lectures
It's like you don't even want to teach yourself physics
For us in university, a new semester has either just begun or is about to begin. What courses are you taking?
>not being a lit/phil major
Philosophy and French Lit double major here. I'm taking courses on 19th C. Lit, North African French Lit, metaphysics, a required survey on Descartes through Kant, and a seminar on the Critique of Pure Reason.
Music major here. Doing composition. Philosophy course was full so i took astronomy as elective and midterm is next week and i have no idea wtf is going on.
>>7623547
Poetry, Justice and Spanish.
Should b gud
is the book good? I just watched the movie last night and enjoyed it immensely
>>7625906
juvenile hack
>>7625906
It's not top-tier Pynchon but decent enough
>>7625911
This meme needs to die. Pynchon, while certainly nowhere near the best author ever, is not bad.
Does anyone have a chart of Marxist writers, and their important works?
I want on with all of them from Marx, to Rosa Luxemburg, Lenin, et all.
Marxists.org has them all catalogued.
>>7625255
>reading Marxism
are you fucking braindamaged?
Found this list on /leftypol/ of where to start w/ basic concepts. Might not be what you're after, though and really only covers Marx, Engels and Lenin.
And like >>7625265 said, a lot of the important stuff is on marxists.org
So everyone knows that Germany, Russia, England, The United States etc have all produced great literature. But outside of the major powers, which smaller nation produces the best literature?
>pic related
>>7623940
>The United States
Argentina comes to mind.
Hungary
Argentina
Is the patriarchy responsible for men being better writers?
Is being the responsible patriarchy better for men writers?
(Reworded your sentence.)
>>7621644
it's responsible for being better at present
>>7621650
*menly writers (riters? bookers?)
How is the most literary death?
Suicide
paper cuts, obv
or, rather, a gigantic bookshelf collapses on you
>>7617804
Opium OD
syphilis
suicide
honorable death in battle
acute radiation poisoning
crushed by snack vending machine
Your love and pity doth the impression fill,
Which vulgar scandal stamped upon my brow;
For what care I who calls me well or ill,
So you o'er-green my bad, my good allow?
You are my all-the-world, and I must strive
To know my shames and praises from your tongue;
None else to me, nor I to none alive,
That my steeled sense or changes right or wrong.
In so profound abysm I throw all care
Of others' voices, that my adder's sense
To critic and to flatterer stopped are.
Mark how with my neglect I do dispense:
You are so strongly in my purpose bred,
That all the world besides methinks y'are dead.
Why are Shakespeare's sonnets so convoluted?
Don't say it's his Elizabethan language, because I've read Elizabethan poems that are straightforward. He uses a convoluted and cryptic style.
>>7626580
>dismissing an objectively great writer
>calling him "convoluted" and "cryptic" because you can't into reading
Shakespeare is Shakespeare, pleb. keep reading until you understand, or remain lazy and uncultured. I know it is a lot more difficult than reading Bukowski or 4chan shitposts, but when you are on Will's turf, you have to compromise.
>>7626651
I am not dismissing him, I am saying that his sonnets are written in a convoluted style.
My problem with it is not that it is difficult, it's that it is unpleasant.
>>7626670
The Sonnets seem to have been printed without his permission. With lots of mistakes and errors, probably from handwritten copies of copies...
It's unclear that some weren't meant to be totally private perhaps with unknown meanings etc. Some are from vastly different times than others in his career...
This might seem like a stupid question but how do I read books? When I was a kid I used to be able to read non-stop and I would almost always have a book on me to read, but now whenever I try to read anything I quickly lose interest and zone out. This happens with everything I read even if I am really interested in the topic of the book, So basically how do I regain my attention span for reading books
pic unrelated but cool
Hey I took a picture of the same poster! Always funny that they spelled Nietzsche wrong.
It was in Sydney, at an exhibition about anti-German sentiment during WW1, pretty cool and largely forgotten, including concentration camps for Germans and camp riots
Anyway, you regain your attention span by going away from the things that take your attention. I read more in the bus and in bed since there's no PC or TV there. Have a small ritual (like making tea or coffee) before you start reading (same goes for studying) so that your brain understands that a new parcel of activity is starting. Turn off monitors and sound-notifications.
>>7626463
goto the library/cafe/park without your electronics.
>>7626469
Great idea! I wish Nietzscheberg was the aussie capital city as well. Surely he is deserving of a cityname somewhere.
Based on your experience, write about your opinion on the importance of good customer service.
Use paragraphs. (Approximately 100 words)
Hey why don't you write your own goddamn apology letter for HR, you're probably going to get fired from your minimum wage job soon anyway. (approx. 20 words)
one hundred dicks in my ass, sifting and swaying about while the birds are a-whistling in the trees, blowing gentle melodies through the crooning tones of the wind. Stained glass arches and paintings of crooked rain going, "oh wowee zowee, that'll sure brighten the corners". American waters aside, the boat sailed through the metamorphaseas where the water lilies grow. I left the building stoned as hell, munching on two dollar and fifty-nine cent crunchwrap supremes from Taco Bell. I proceeded to take a huge bong rip, the motherload. a missile arc of smoke and THC with a straight trajectory down into my throat.
>>7626153
yes, i'd like fries with that. where'd you get your english degree?