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>>7629638
This is is very remedial.
In a basic sense:
First person: intimate, limited access to characters/pov
Third person: less intimate, more access to characters/pov

>First-person narration means that the reader acquires the story from the narrator
the reader always acquires the story from the narrator, the narrator just isn't always a named character in the story.

>It allows the reader to see how the narrator sees the world
unreliable narrators will lie to the reader, so this is not necessarily true, and also why would you prefer the restrictions of subjective experience over the freedom of a more exhaustive, zoomed-out narrative.

>allows the narrator to go off on their own tangents
>implying you can't do that in 3rd-person also
>implying 3rd-person cannot do this to stronger effect, even, since any rants/observations can be stated not as mere opinion but as universal facts within the framework of the story

>Third-person narration can't accomplish any of those things without very clunkily inserting long monologues, clumsy "he thought that" statements, etc.
a good writer wouldn't write "he thought that..." to begin with, or at the very least he would do so sparingly (i.e., showing, not telling), and you are assuming that long monologues are necessarily clunky. you are also assuming that exposition does not exist.

the best POV depends on the type of novel. (if you were not pleb you would realize this.) 1st-person works best for some (e.g., in He Rapes His Sister, Phoebe, 1st-person narration is just about necessary because it is a novel about a flawed worldview, which Salinger wants to show you is wrong), and 3rd-person works best for others (to cite another meme book, GR, where the author's argument encompasses all history and human experience).

First person unreliable narrators are the best

Shit

>>7629582
Mediocre, not horrible but you could certainly do better

Whats it about? No Spoilers pls

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THIS SHIT

IS BERNANOS

Sometimes it is just the lacking of urgency.

>>7629522
write something, or take something you've already written, and rewrite it from the beginning. do it again and again and again until it's absolutely perfected. practice the act of writing, rather than the creation of ideas. if you have the tool of writing accurately honed, when an idea does finally come to you, you will be prepared, and not miss out when you're finally ready to write something on your mind.

>addiction to marijuana

Anyway, if you want to write just start writing. Daily, regardless of whether you feel like it or not. If you don't have any ideas for stories, just sketch a scene or write some random thoughts.

Practice is the key.

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yes.

and no.

hubbard was a sociopath. the most fun you can get out of his work is to go through "Battlefield Earth" and circle the parts that appear to have been written by a twelve-year-old. hubbard wrote those. the rest was written by a group of uncredited staff writers.

I think it's a book

>>7629339
I personally feel that Will Navidson dies in the basement of the house at the end.

read like 15 pages went to sleep and had horrific nightmares

never carried on after that

>>7629317
Bitches.

One eye on some philosophical term
One eye on the bitches
Or something like that

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the sticky

Peter Longerich - Himmler
A 2000 page affair. I do not know if it Has been translated into English.

Gustave Lebon - The Crowd
Edwards Bernays - Propaganda

asdf

>Is anyone interested
Speaking as someone who is high right now, no, absolutely not.

>>7629095
solar systems are like giant atoms, and galaxies are like giant molecules

>>7629111
That's the man in a man theorem, as I like to call it.

>>7629091
feminists BTFO

>>7629091
>Is he dissing linguists here?

he's dissing prescriptive grammarians, u fucking nitwit, swear to god lit gets dumber ever day

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>>7629133
>linguist detected

>>7628987
babby's first post

>>7628987
Which 2?

>>7628987
The story to me only works if it is the story of the last child on Earth.
I thought that was the entire point of the roasted baby scene. To establish that no more children can survive in this world. The man and his boy were only able to live so long through a series of serious good luck. That this truly is, and has been from the beginning, a world utterly without hope. It is about finding meaning in life even without hope, the beauty in the fact that this is the last child the world will ever see and he was able to experience love and goodness. That the last moments before the human race is extinguished can have joy.

And then some dude with a parka and a shotgun and a family somehow just shows up. Just there. All of a sudden. What do they live on? Fuck if I know.

>reading anything other than fiction

>watching genre television
>bragging about being culturally illiterate
>posting on /lit/ when you're clearly too stupid for literature
Fuck off

>>7628910
>too stupid for literature
>says someone who reads fantasy stories and gains no real knowledge from it
sure anon

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>>7628858
I know lit's got a bug up its ass about King but Misery I think is genuinely both a beautiful and haunting horror novel.

>>7628861
I read this the week my cousin died when I was 10. When the coffin is overturned I threw the book on the floor and didnt finish it for another 5 years or so. Huge impact on my young life.

I think The Shining is also up there, as is the Hellbound Heart and Books of Blood Vol 1

well my first published erotica is doing really well while my untamed rants about being a poor kid at a prep school are doing horribly. how about you, OP? whatcha got on your mind?

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> hows that post industrialist pro-communsim piece coming along?
nothing i will ever write can ever beat Bogdanov's Red Star

>>7628667
I am writing about narcissism right now, but I write about ideal memories, mostly.

I got meme'd. Don't let it happen to you.

Maybe you should take real classes.

>>7628651
It is a real class. There are grad students sitting in on it because it's truly a well thought out and advanced course. We cover Hegel, Mill, Kant, and others. It's not social justice bullshit, it's actually interesting. I'm just drowning here.