Hi /lit/. I've been avoiding feeling anything for a very long time, and am currently trying to rekindle my repressed emotions. Trying to reach any answer about life purely analytically has led me into despair, and I cried for the first time in years yesterday. Any books you would recommend for this feel? I'm mostly into philosophy, but my disinterest in fiction is probably a symptom in itself.
I've a feeling in my gut that you would get some value out of Les Miserables. But it's a pretty hefty tome; do you have a length limit?
>>7648839
Same anon here
Also, are you adverse to texts with particularly religious sentiment? I'm struggling to think of a book concerning the virtue of emotional appeal that isn't also steeped in Christianity
>Trying to reach any answer about life purely analytically has led me into despair
The Brothers Karamazov.
What should I skip in this backlog, /lit/?
>>7647618
Everything.
>>7647618
All of them. Reading is a waste of time.
>>7647618
The Martian
It started as a great novel in the first chapter, became a bit more boring in the two next chapters, and is rather dull in the part about the murders.
It's just "here's some woman, she has been vaginally and anally raped, and we just can't find any lead" all over again. Does it get better? Am I missing something?
>does it get better
yes. most people put chapter 5 as the best/2nd best chapter
>am i missing something
also yes
The point is that you become desensitized to the brutality of the crimes, just like those who investigate this shit in real life do. Roberto Bologna is a genuis, and frankly, you should go back to hop on pop if you can't figure this out.
Ciudad Juarez mate. Also Edomex in the 20teens. Mostly this:
>>7645437
First person narration is a meme.
>muh mind
>muh experience
>muh downfall into madness XD
Fuck that.
it's not what you do, it's how you do it
-aristotle
>>7650029
>not using first second and third person narration throughout a book
Stay pleb, my man.
>>7650050
They don't think it be like it is, but it do
-plato
Did i get memed hard?
>>7649846
Yeah. He's not great, was funny, plays are decent. The novel's decent. That's it.
>>7649846
>reading degenerates
bet you read women and non-whites too.
fucking moron, take the redpill
>>7649866
what if i am a woman
Is he right?
>>7649432
"made a huge mistake" is code for "it's a trap"
which is code, if I have to explicate this for you too, for "a tranny"
which means a girl with a dick
it's implying sideways that only biological males read this
like everybody is doing (the implication, not the reading)
>>7649432
Yes.
>>7649446
this isn't a bad thing
>ADA OR ARDOR
so when your talking about the book right, do you say the title straight or do you say ada or ARDOR maybe a bit like jd and turk on scrubs like it's innuendo or something, is that what nabokov was going for maybe?
I just say Ada. I think the full title is Ada or Ardor :a Family Chronicle anyway
>>7650164
oh yeah and Lucette was best girl. Fuck Ada for sneaking off with those other guys behind her brothers back. Van's openly sleeping around almost bugged me more though.
Other than the Bible and other religious texts, is there anything worthwhile written in Hebrew?
Amos Oz is great. There's also quite an extensive Yiddish canon if you're interested.
>>7648478
yiddish != hebrew, tho. they don't even belong to the same family of languages.
>>7649022
Well it's written using Hebrew characters so one could argue it's written in Hebrew
I MAJORED IN LIT
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET A JOB
I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE
I LIKE WRITING AND READING BUT I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE
Do volunteer work and build up a resume. Look into editorial work or technical writing
good luck dave man
>>7648085
>majored
Oh boy. Bit late to be asking now.
Anyway, my advice is to go and teach English somewhere.
>>7648085
just be yourself
Took from my Lit proff at Brown U.
Book - unapologetically commercial cashgrab ex. The Hunger Games
Fiction - a writing with some artistic merits but ultimately still dependent on commercial success/editorial approval to determine if more like it shall be made. ex. American Pastoral
Literature - a work with fewer commercial concerns and more artistic concerns ex. One Hundred Years of Solitude
Belles-Lettres - artistic projects made entirely for artistic concerns. ex. Ulysses
Classics - Works more than 500 years old. Because they can no longer be produced, they are the rarest and most valuable form of written material. Ex. The Odyssey
>>7647583
It sounds like the shitty demarcation that /tv/ has with film-flick-cinema
Arbitrary classifications. Why 500 years? Shakespeare isn't 500 years old, but he's surely a "classic" in the non-Classical sense.
The others are just as arbitrary. How much artistic concern is too much? What if you don't know if the book was made "for money"? One Hundred Years of Solitude surely made gobs of cash; does that means its artistic merit is relatively less than [insert any notoriously shitty 19th century vanity novel of your choice]?
Overall, unscientific, full of holes and borderline useless. Not even worth mentioning at a cocktail party.
dumb bait
back to /tv/ faggot
Hi everyone! Last year I was feeling depressed and someone recommended I read this so I looked it up on Google and saw a lot of people talking about how the book changed their life for the better/made them happy and that Camus was a super famous recent philosopher so I just assumed that contained within the work was a reason to live. I didn't read the work then (because I'm not a nerd lmao who even reads nowadays) but I was happy and just assumed that there existed reason to live, hidden within the book that I had no hope of getting to without first starting with the Greeks and going up the chronological chain. Well, I actually read the book/essay/whatever yesterday and thought it was pretty shitty and devoid of insight and, as a result, am depressed again. Anyone have recommendations of books that will make the reader want to live?
>>7647424
Literature doesn't really solve your problems. And anyway, expecting it to do this will simply ruin whatever pleasure you do get from it. If you have real depression, get diagnosed and treated. If you're just white-guy sad, get some friends and hit the gym.
How about Bible?
Is it gay to admire his work?
>>7649887
Sure
>>7649887
Like sucking another man erect nipples and to admire his wonderful and muscular back.
Wouldn't it be the exact opposite? most of his work was about how homosexuality is in fact degeneracy and will eventually lead to ruin.
I'm interested in orthodox Christianity.
Most of my life I've been agnostic, tending toward atheism. I grew up in a Baptist / Pentecostal household, but rejected those teachings as bereft of true spiritual communion.
I embraced a scholarly lifestyle and have since studied many different ideologies, religions, philosophies and faiths - however orthodox Christianity was not one of them.
At this point in my life, for very personal reasons, I am seeking a spiritual rebirth. For some reason, orthodox Christianity seems to be an incongruously recurring theme despite my neglect of it's mysteries.
I was hoping any of you might be able to recommend...anything. Books, teachers, prophets, apologetics and even your own personal experiences.
I'm also open to opinions which would have me not embrace Christianity again. I'm thoroughly acquainted with the historical hypocrisies and sins of all religion, so perhaps you have a more nuanced view.
I need to leave in about 15 minutes to visit my grandmother, so please just post what you will and I can participate more upon my return.
Thank you.
>>7645533
I'm not orthodox and there doesn't seem to actually be a lot of orthodox writings.
From the ones mentioned you have Philokalia, Way of the Pilgrim and everything Dostoevsky wrote. Timothy Wheare or something like that was being mentioned.
Constantine smells the mention of word orthodox like sharks do blood and will probably have more.
>>7645562
Thank you.
You may want to read some Tolstoy -- he was excommunicated for being an anarcho-pacifist, but you should still read him.
Ready:
'What I Believe'
'The Kingdom of God is in You'
'Letter to a Hindu' (letter he sent to Gandhi, which heavily influenced the latter)
How would you see someone who writes aphorisms instead of novels, or poetry? There is less probability to being published?
>>7644651
The moustache man wrote 7 hours a day everyday for decades and destroyed about 80% of his work while he worked because he thought it was shit.
He financed his publications with his own money, was never taken seriously in his lifetime and ended up crazy.
This form of expression is not a thing you do because you want, its a thing you do because commiting your thoughts to paper keeps insanity away for one extra day.
In the age of twitter, the aphorism is the most natural medium to write in.
But yeah you're never getting published.
Favorite sections?
I'm personally a fan of his career as a hot-dog vendor
>>7643838
I wish I had a hot dog machine.
storming the levy office
>>7643838
i hated that fucking book, but when the bartender is trying to get a book for her dirty pictures was funny. also that black ass mofuggah.