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>>7651651
start with the greeks

quit anime

If you liked kafka ull like hunger by knut hamsun
Otherwise them writers u posted here are very different
But guess you into kinda existential shit so check some Dosto. U could also enjoy Gogol and Turgenev. Dig, lurk hard on this bitch and dont fall for the beatnik meme

23. December. 2015 him immensely.

De-cember twent-e-third, twenty-fift-een

December Twenty-Third, Twenty-Fifteen

Monster.

>>7651007
What redeeming qualities could he possibly have

>>7651031
I can get with his idea (at least what was implied) that Eru's perfect idea of the world felt too sterile and that he could do better with all of his power.

Jews are so fucking oversensitive.

>>7650910
zizek is hilarious here; he's on home turf so he doesn't give a fuck
>>7651066
no man, he dishes it back, it's fine; he even got another joke out of zizek
he knew he could call zizek an anti-semite because he wouldn't give a fuck

>>7651066
>>7651111
Witnessed.

But nah, the Jew's actual response to 'why grace' is pathetic.

>>7648527
Plato. Alternatively philosophy introductions. I recommend Peter Kreeft's The Platonic Tradition.

Read this: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/presocratics/#Mil

Then go to Plato.

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>>7648527
don't fall for the greeks meme, start with the analytics lad

What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Rowling. I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.

But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now read only J.K. Rowling, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Rowling was what it took to make them pick up a book, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. "Harry Potter" will not lead our children on to Kipling's "Just So Stories" or his "Jungle Book." It will not lead them to Thurber's "Thirteen Clocks" or Kenneth Grahame's "Wind in the Willows" or Lewis Carroll's "Alice."

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

Our society and our literature and our culture are being dumbed down, and the causes are very complex. I'm 73 years old. In a lifetime of teaching English, I've seen the study of literature debased. There's very little authentic study of the humanities remaining. My research assistant came to me two years ago saying she'd been in a seminar in which the teacher spent two hours saying that Walt Whitman was a racist. This isn't even good nonsense. It's insufferable.

>>7648297
Wow. I don't think I've had an answer that well put together in a long time. I completely agree. I just finished a collection of Ernest Hemingways short stories and I felt more fulfilled than reading whatever I got through with the Potter series. I'm trying to understand the phenomenon on a group psychology level and I still can't seem to grasp it. I'm not saying there are no good authors anymore but there definitely has been a large shift in what society is reading. It leaves me wondering if there is any historical precedence for it.

>>7648297
imagine if this guy watched anime

>>7647410
It is a masterpiece, but he's not wrong about it being racist.

>>7647414
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What's the matter, OP? Couldn't handle a few yams?

>>7644904
In English? KJV seems obvious.

NIV to be honest family. KJV is overrated as fuck.

>>7644911
>niv
>from a literary perspective

The NIV is literally the walmart of bible translations made by evangelical protestants for evangelical protestants. The KJV is a work of art.

>>7642837
complete shit, both of them, fuck off

Posting epic video in an epic thread
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>>7642837
He found a line and pulled on it, fighting toward the hatch to get himself below out of the storm, but a gust of wind knocked his feet from under him and a second slammed him into the rail and there he clung. Rain lashed at his face, blinding him. His mouth was full of blood again. The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit.

>>7652356
Wallace was trying to be Dostoevsky*. My bad.

>>7652356

Have you been paying attention to anything recently? Post-Modernism may have led to Post-Irony, which was defeated by New Sincerety, as you pointed out, but New Sincerety is obviously being replaced with Post-Sincerety.

>>7652364
Provide examples, please. Carrère's latest novel is from last year, and Knausgard and Ferrante just got translated into English two years ago, and they're still in progress of being published in Spanish. What the hell is Post-Sincerity?

start with the Greeks

>tfw Christian grandma living in Alabama wrote the worst book I've ever touched or seen

She often changed between past and present tense from sentence to sentence.

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>>7652310

>thinking Deus Ex Machina is a valid criticism

Also, Longinus

>>7652232
I just find that Sophocles more subtle depiction of divinity resonates best with me. Besides, it's a play. I think the choices of the characters ought to explain and solve the plot, not a two-page explanation by an outside speaker.
Why Longinus, though? I know he has an Ars Poetica, but I didn't know he talked about tragedy. Could you explain?

>>7652246
>Why Longinus, though?
Say his name. Long (va)Ginas. :DDDD EPIC

I liked it
always made me hungry tho

for the record, i don't frequent this board. I assume, however, that you are as critical (and borderline autistic) as the rest of the site, so I'm curious to hear your opinions on the series i so enjoyed in my youth.

And yes, I salivate at the memory of the food described in the books.

>all the stories follow the same basic pattern
>some types of animals are inherently evil

Aside of that I really like them, loved them as a child

have you read any of them?

Hah. No.

>>7651523
Many when I was younger. None of them really hold up though.

>>7651265
bout tree fiddy

you're less likely to contract some horrible disease left by the previous reader licking their fingertips to turn the pages of a library book, than you are getting software trojans by going to those god-awful russian "free" book sites. but only just.

>>7651265

Well you waste a shit ton of time at the library just to find out they don't have a book. If you want an ebook you "Rent" itwhich is bullshit. The employees don't read so if you're looking for a fresh view you won't find it. I guess you're likely to find an entertaining piece of shit.