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Subvocalisation thread
"Subvocalization (also known as auditory reassurance) is a very common habit among readers. It involves saying words in your head while reading and it's one of the main reasons why people read slowly and have trouble improving their reading speed." - http://www.irisreading.com/speed-reading-tips-5-ways-to-minimize-subvocalization/
Do you subvocalise, /lit/?
I don't understand how I can read and not hear the words in my head - I thought that was called reading. Plus with better lit I need to slow down to make sure I catch any meaning
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working in urban education one thing i noticed is muslim women from south asian always subvocolaize so much they are basically vocalizing, they whisper while they read or at least mouth the words...why? because in awful islamic schools they make u read the koran all the fucking time and the only way to prove you're reading it and not staring at the pages is is to mouth the words as u go, even black guys don't suck at reading that much, reading is to get information, not perform a duty
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>>7708422
>Here’s an example of what I mean. Think about when you are driving. When you see a stop sign, do you actually vocalize the word “STOP” in your head? You may have done so right now while reading the words in the sentence, but when you see a stop sign while driving you’re unlikely to say the word. You see it and recognize that it’s a stop sign automatically.
>tfw you hear the word STOP in your head
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>>7708435
i reverse subvocalize: when i talk or listen to talking i can't help but imagine the text of it
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Hey /lit/, what is the best translation of this book? Currently have the Ormsby translation and wanted to know if it's the best option before I start reading.
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>>7708383
I'm actually a big fan of that Grossman translation, anon. I enjoyed it a great deal more than the Jarvis translation, at any rate, which was how I first read it.
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Find samples of each translation and pick the one that you like best.
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Is the Signet Classics edition of this good?
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Looking for examples of great lit of the 60s 70s and 80s on or in societies that have just thrown off colonial oppressionor "oppression"or were granted autonomy.
Traumatic stories from Africa and SE Asia a plus.
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>>7708365
when you say "traumatic stories", do you mean you want books about countries that were released from colonial rule and were worse for it?
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>>7708366
Yes but I wouldnt mind stuff about some rich son of a bitch after the Hong Kong handover either. I just enjoy stuff about 20th century africa.
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>>7708365
That is a great fucking cover
critique my writing
The smell of rotting drywall and mildew circulates throughout my lungs. The cold air makes me shudder as i pull up the blanket i've had since I was as young as four. my blanket is warm but far too small to cover both my feet and my torso. Crash. Dads home, I try my best to not make a sound. The air is still. The smell booze and cheap cigars fill my nose. The door creeks and a series of mumbles follow. He believes i'm asleep, I wish i was asleep. I drift, and I dream, but i never sleep. I can never get my escape.
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>>7708310
Not in critique thread/10
But also 4/10 writing
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>>7708310
In all seriousness, it's YA-tier. It has no complexity or depth whatsoever.
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Boris Vian - L'Écume des Jours
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Well, I'm not really sure what I just read. The story itself was really touching, and some of the imagery was striking, but there was an awful lot of WTF thrown in there.
Anybody read it? Thoughts?
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I haven´t read that book of him but thats just Boris Vian man! He in personal and also his book are just WTF! I mean he wrote his first big book just because of a bet he made!
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Okay I´ve been reading alot of philosophical shit lately. To name some: Platon, Marc Aurel, Epiktet, Hegel etc.
But thats all very theoretical and quit boring after a bit. Now I am searching for some good, mindsmashing and philosophical novels. Are there some you can recommend??
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A good philosophical work should not be sensational, maybe read Zarathustra or something.
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A Short History of Decay by Emil Cioran
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>>7708249
Great suggestion! But I have read Zarathustra -and I am not a real fan of Nietszche!
What should I read, besides Benedetto Croce and Marx, before facing the "Prison Notebooks" by gramsci?
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Mises, Hayek.
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>>7708309
lol this forreal OP. Don't pollute your mind.
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>>7708228
machiavelli the prince
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Questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Couldn't find one in the catalog so I'm starting.
Which is the better edition/translation (for Meditations-Marcus Aurelius) ?
1. The Emperor's Handbook - Aurelius
Translators: C Scott Hicks, David V Hicks
2. Meditations - Aurelius
Translator: Gregory hays
Which is better and should be preferred?
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>>7708224
but you started a thread to ask them
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>>7708238
damn. you got me you clever fox you.
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In one hour I can only read 30 pages of a book like C&P (in English). Not a native English speaker. Easier ones I manage to hit 50.
How bad is that, and how much WPM reading do I average?
I'm sitting among old and young people in this café.
In front of me is a tray, with a cup of coffee, and two sugar cubes on its saucer.
Soon they will go down into the hot coffee and struggle not to get melted.
I pick them up with my thumb and index finger.
Right above the round walls of the cup I let them go, both of them, and they fall into the coffee.
There was a plop, and at the same time a drop of coffee leaps upwards from the cup.
It's as if it had been resting down there at the bottom, waiting for vengeance.
Vengeance, because the sugar cubes sank down to the bottom, taking his place.
So now the drop is menacingly high above the cup.
Suddenly it turns around and heads straight towards me and my white shirt.
There's no escape.
The drop hits me right on my stomach.
I look down and watch as it spreads to the size of a thumbnail.
I have completely forgotten about the sugar cubes, which are lying down there at the bottom, getting their lungs filled with black coffee.
They're dying only to give me pleasure.
On the table is an ashtray.
There are five cigarette butts in it.
Together they form a terrifying mass grave.
...an unnecessary mass grave.
So I stand up and walk away.
Most lives end all too soon.
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That's just bad, I'm sorry.
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>>7708247
What about it is bad?
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This whole thing is terrible but especially this line:
"It's as if it had been resting down there at the bottom, waiting for vengeance.
Vengeance, because the sugar cubes sank down to the bottom, taking his place."
What are you trying to say with this?
>They're dying only to give me pleasure
They are sugar cubes. I think they'll be ok
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Are there any good books on how societies become 'evil' and why they war each other?
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2016-02-17 14:24:47
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:-)
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protocols of the elders of zion?
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>>7708188
maybe something like brave new world, 1984, animal farm, farenheit 451 -not really war but more like a conflict in a distopia!
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>he hasn't built a scene or description around using the word "palimpsest"
What do you even think you're doing? All the greats have done it, anyone with a smidgen of ambition has done it, and you -- you think you can get away with not doing this, kid?
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2016-02-17 14:26:41
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get out of here with your antediluvian antics
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>using the world palimpsest ever
all that tells me is ur a fuckin nerd who played a bunch of dungeons and dragons games on his pc computer
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>>7708212
You're confusing it with 'fuliginous'.
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Is it just a women thing or is it for all? Because being a straight man of 24 I genuenly enjoyed the Three Comrades, though it filled with platitude and has no interesting thoughs.
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why are all straight men retarded?
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>>7708163
What are you up to?
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Do you keep something that's like a diary but not quite?
Say that you're inspired to write about your five-minute experience. You detail it in third-person and then store it. You may or may not ever say that the character is you. Over time you amass a collection of isolated micro-stories about yourself. That time you were paranoid, the moment you experienced six different pans while walking; whatever it might be.
Is this just disjointed memoir writing?
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Seems like you have all the pieces for your puzzle. Time to put them together.
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what's the diff between this and just ctrl-fing a regular diary with 'I' -> 'he'
I had a dream today where I found a comic book with stirner as a character and it had a whole bunch of illustrations of him and I was so excited to share it.
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What are some books like the Iliad and Odyssey?
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>>7708101
The Epic of Gilgamesh
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The Aeneid
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>>7708101
Beowulf
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ITT: Words that have passed fully into irony.
I'll start:
Wonderful
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>>7708061
OP is totally not a fag
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its all in the context
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>>7708073
delete this now