What is the most "obscure" book you ever read? I mean "obscure" as "almost nobody knows about it".
Prolly shit tier national ya I read for school or literature from my country (I am from argentina)
I think my rarest non-argentine Pepe would be "beyond this place" a novel by Cronin that i foubd laying around my house or "la familia de pascual duarte" by Cela (which is a Nobel laureate anyway)
>>7703861
Probably one of the monographs I've read, if dissertations don't count. Because I doubt more than a dozen other people have read any given dissertation.
The library/museum catalogs I've read probably rank up there in obscurity as well.
>>7703861
Bunch! by David R. Bunch
>read Houellebecq's first novel after reading Soumission
>it's much better and at least as relevant
Why doesn't this stuff get memed?
>>7708885
Elementary Particle and Possibilities of an Island get a lot of love here.
Memes have nothing to do with the quality of the work. DFW is a great example of this.
>>7708897
Just started the Elementary Particles, seems good so far. I think I'll just go through his novels chronologically.
The Lovecraft book seems promising as well.
Today my professor told the class that the Chief in The Laughing Man is black. This struck me as odd because I'm a careful reader and no part of the story ever implied that he was anything besides an upper-class WASP. unless I missed something. I wouldn't really mind, but he went on to claim that the Laughing Man's physical deformity was paralleled with the Chief being a black man in the early 20th century. This is completely incongruous with my understanding of the story, so please tell me I'm not crazy
Why don't you ask your professor to explain his statement instead of asking us?
Chief Aramaki is clearly an elderly Japanese man. It's just the lighting that makes him appear mulatto.
Moby dick thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby-Dick
I read this book over the summer and was honestly surprised to find it was like a slice of life story rather than the struggle of man versus whale. Maybe I just resonated and remember the parts about human interaction but the actual whale hunting events seemed few and far between. There was a great deal of anatomical information and sign of the times events at play but the more I read the more I felt it was not about a man hunting a whale, which I had always been shown by pop culture the book was about. I liked the book it was a long read and slow most of the time, I liked it as a wonderful window into the past. Anyone wanna talk about Moby Dick?
>>7712880
I have been wanting to read it for a while now but put it off because I felt I wasn't ready. I think I'm finally going to join the ranks because of this thread.
>>7712880
>surprised to find it was like a slice of life story rather than the struggle of man versus whale
well, that's why it is famous
>>7712880
like an anon wrapped it up to me: "It's like the Bible. It's a book about everything"
absoluteyl amazing book. Not a single chapter I disliked.
Freedom, Sancho, is one of the most precious gifts that heaven ever gave to man. Neither the treasures hidden in the earth nor those the sea covers can equal it. For freedom, as well as for honor, one can and should risk one’s life. And the opposite is also true—captivity is the worst evil that can befall men
>translations
>>7712210
sweet, that stupidity gets out of the way right off the bat.
>>7712196
My first impulse is to wonder to what extent Quixote truly was free. On the one hand, he adhered to a strict code of chivalry (and a large dose of enchantment) which guided him to some specific actions. On the other hand, he wasn't ensnared by too much deliberation--'analysis paralysis' or what you will--in his behavior.
>>7712210
La libertad, Sancho, es uno de los más preciosos dones que a los hombres dieron los cielos; con ella no pueden igualarse los tesoros que encierra la tierra ni el mar encubre; por la libertad así como por la honra se puede y debe aventurar la vida, y, por el contrario, el cautiverio es el mayor mal que puede venir a los hombres
you guys ever read this one?
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v18/n14/dale-peck/well-duh
notable excerpt:
>Pynchon does have his admirers, and he also has his followers, or people who are labelled his followers, and they do keep cropping up. I think there’s more than a little Pynchon floating around John Kennedy Toole, whose A Confederacy of Dunces is a book nearly as bloated as its protagonist; Don DeLillo’s social, um, satires owe more than a little to Pynchon’s work; and in a recent essay in Harper’s magazine the young novelist Jonathan Franzen declares Pynchon a personal hero. David Foster Wallace moves beyond admiration to adulation – if not, to put it more plainly, outright imitation. It is, in fact, a virtuoso performance that has eclipsed its progenitor: Wallace out-Pynchons Pynchon, and his third book, Infinite Jest, may well be the first novel to out-Gravity’s Rainbow Gravity’s Rainbow.
>>7711607
>starting threads with pictures of beautiful women
Why does everybody do this here? It lnly serves to make me sad.
>>7711700
same.
>tfw never be a beautiful girl
>tfw if i was a beautiful girl my ex would have never left me
>tfw biscum gonna biscum ;~;
I'm going to be working with a group on the campus I attend hoping to develop students who havn't read as much into better analytical readers. I think many students who end up in English classes (especially where I go) still lack the necessary tools to truly understand a text, and most of the time just see it the way the teacher says, (not that this is necessarily a bad thing but to truly understand a book students should be able to figure out what it means on their own). I go to a Community College so the reading level does vary a lot. Many students have even finished a book in their lives and are suddenly thrust into an intellectual atmosphere they are not ready for.
My plan is to teach a book as an example of how to properly analyze a text, so how to ask the right questions and that sort of thing. The problem is this program needs to take place in-between their classes. I'm looking for some brief literature which has some sort of analytical value to it, you know something that begs to be asked questions about. Where you're not quite sure what it means immediately and only upon contemplation come to realize; something that you can discuss.
I was thinking an essay or short story but am still open minded and am looking for input.
So what you guys go
Yo,
the first thing that came to mind was animal farm, because it's short and the symbolism is just in your fucking face and is always applicable to current events.
however, even that might be a bit beyond the kind of student you're describing. maybe take a look at finding a collection of short stories that are approved for high school level students. there's plenty of shit out there that's clever but still easy to understand. this post probably isn't very helpful, im sorry. hope it serves as a bump which may in turn give you at least one useful reply lol. good luck sensei
>>7711343
actually I hadn't even thought of that, that sort of collection is specifically made to teach high school students the same thing so why not start there? Great idea, really
>>7711347
glad to help m8
>has connections to multiple people, was part of the Illuminati, is a master of stealth and disguise and a perfect assassin, and has a fucking submarine with child slaves.
Why didn't he use his power to rob their fortune from the bank instead of making extremely elaborate plots to catch three kids?
>>7711234
bc he was also suffering from a mental disorder
>>7711234
Because he was a VILLAIN, not some goddamn money-grubbing business man who cares about such passing trivialities like common sense
>>7711234
I enjoyed these books very much
Im 100 pages into this and im considering dropping it. Its "funny" yeah, but i feel like im wasting my time.
Now I know.
All the pieces come together anon, and anyway it's shameful to drop out of a work of literature without seeing it through to the end.
If you're enjoying it (which I assume you are - you might not be) why not continue it? It's not like you were going to spend your time on something better. On the other hand, if you're not enjoying it, drop it and find something you do enjoy. No reason to suffer through something you do of your own free will.
Where should I start with Hemingway?
Grasp the base of the shaft firmly, fondle the balls with your spare hand then swirl the head with your tongue before working your way down to engulf the whole thing.
>>7709752
Thanks for the daddy boner.
Start with the greeks
Is this the edition to read?
Also what should I read prior to it if anything.
>Also what should I read prior to it if anything.
The Bible
Hamlet
The Greeks
Dubliners
Portrait of the Artist
1. any edition is fine
2. realistically you don't have to read anything before it
>>7708660
I read somewhere that it's impossible to get all the references anyway, so it isn't imperative to read anything. Is that your reasoning?
What does /lit/ think of this glorious bastard? And also similar authors
mid tier
also narcissus > siddhartha
Oh Boy! Why only mid tier? and i think narcissus is equal to siddhartha. it just depends on how open you are for buddisthic spiritulism.
>hmm i dont know shit about literature
>but i remember they assigned me siddhartha in high school
>how can i look like i know what im talking about even though i don't?
>tfw you want to read and write but can't stop browsing 4chan
I hate this fucking place.
>>7706337
not any more than you hate yourself.
>>7706327
Just turn off the computer for 10 minutes anon. You can do it.
Help me, /lit/
How do you deal with people who are not into literature or art in general, going so far as to disregard both? In daily life you can just ignore it, but how shall one establish emotional closeness to someone who neither cares about nor understands something which has become such a great part of my personality? I want to love her, /lit/, but what am I supposed to love if she only reads stuff that is worse than genre fiction and lacks any redeeming features? Maybe I am too elitist, but it is not the lack of taste which disturbs me but rather the fact that I consider the pursuit of truth in art to be the only worthy characteristic of humanity. What else am I supposed to love, after all?
>>7705575
If she disappoints you on something as general as literature, you might as well ditch her. Shit won't last man.
>>7705575
Stop trying to change people, it will only frustrate you, and it's not really your place anyways.
>>7705575
If you like her you like her. It's not like you're some kind of aesthetic genius. That art has become the greater part of one's personality is something we all would like to believe, though it's really just horseshit.
You're not elitist, just some kid.
Horrible /lit/ related gifts thread
£15 for this
>>7712644
One time I got the collection of the actual Sherlock Holmes stories. And honestly they kind of suck.
>>7712674
There are various different collections, Some are worded differently, Some have parts taken out, Some are illustrated.