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How important is a realistic plot to you?

pictured is a poet who talks about the modern day world
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>>7716102
what is a "realistic plot"?
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>tfw beautiful successful, magnificent gentleman but still no qt, /lit/, mentally ill attentionwhore gf
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>>7716102
Not as important as a plausible one

Hey /lit/ I wanna start reading modern books like from the 90's and up so could you guys recommend something like Dead Souls, 100 Years of solitude, and Slaughterhouse 5
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>>7714854
start with the greeks
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>>7714854
INFINITE JEST
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>>7714854
read this last week, was pretty good, you might like if you like barthelme.

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Hello guys.
I need some help.I'm pretty desperate.
I'd like to get into reading, but the catch is, I've never read a book (only some children's books when I was younger).
Some recent events in my life have made me realize that I won't be able to rely on others to support me my entire life.
Today I bought a library card, but I didn't know wich book I should get started with, and as my social anxiety is that big I didn't ask anyone in there for help.
So. Here I am asking you guys for help. Since anonymity helps.
Sorry for any typos inm advance.
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Read the sticky fgt.
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>>7713503

It'd help if we knew more about you.

Tell me which 3 of the tarot that might describe you and I'll suggest something.

G'luck in advance on your way to reading.
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>>7713507
I did, but I don't find the answer that I'm looking for there

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Without trying to sound too masturbatory or circlejerky, what 'percentile' would someone who reads, say, 50 books a year (a little under 1 a week) fall under? We could even broaden the scope, say 30+ books (I know that only 30/year might be seen as pleb here, but whatever), point being, someone that's regularly reading a lot.

Presuming these titles are primarily literature of course.

Just how many people actually read? I literally only know one other person in person who reads more than just genre shit.
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>>7710987
About 2%, if the books are actually hard, <1%.
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>>7710987
You should probably go out and meet other people
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>>7710990
If it helps, I read about 70 books a year, mostly non-fiction.

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What's the /lit/ equivalent of gachimuchi?
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your dads autobiography

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I am to write a 20-30 page thesis on "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark (Shakespeare, Hamlet)", and I was wondering if there was a certain viewpoint of critique I should represent that isn't usually done but might function. People usually opt in for the historical aspects of the play and cite material that deals with medieval history of Europe, that's pretty boring imho.
I know the play to a T almost, due to reading it even before high school, and the topic I'm supposed to cover seems pretty lackluster.
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>>7716890
not related, but one of my favorite sayings in hamlet is this:

Not a whit. We defy augury. There’s a special providence in the fall of a sparrow. If it be now, ’tis not to come. If it be not to come, it will be now. If it be not now, yet it will come—the readiness is all. Since no man of aught he leaves knows, what is ’t to leave betimes? Let be.

i wrote my first 30 page paper on this back in a TN boarding school. let me see if i can dig up my old notes, i'm sure i have something on your quotation
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>>7716890

Do Lacanian post-colonialism.
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>>7716910
That would be of immense help.

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>try to visit /lit/
>type "l" into the address bar
>auto corrects to the leagueoflegends subreddit
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>try to read
>get bored and visit 4chan instead

this happens every time I try to read a book.
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>not playing the superior version
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>>7716716
>playing a dead game

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Any advice for an individual who fell out of writing and is finding it impossibly difficult and overbearing to get back into it? Just trying to ease back in /lit/
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piss really hard
volley piss up in the air while folding yourself so it lands in your own asshole
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>>7716686
Look at this joker
Like I haven't tried that yet faggot
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Don't try. There's no law that says everybody has to be a writer. It's harder than it looks. Its better to move on that to be just another no talent hack.

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Hey, guy on /lit/ who recommended this, thanks!
This was fucking great times.

>ITT: good /lit/ recs, thank an anon
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>>7716499
>it's called "The Long Ships" in English

wew
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>>7716557
what's a more accurate title? the 'red orm' one?
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>>7716499
Silence by Endo was a great rec, even if the reason it has popped up is because it's a new Scorsese movie.

Thanks Anon!

Have you read Genji monogatari? Would you recommend reading it?
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>>7716455
No and can't say. I like the picture.
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Endless descriptions of people blushing, hiding their faces behind fans, giving letters to servants and waiting for replies...I read a little enough to get the style, but its super repetitive and the description of courtly manners didn't interest me.
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>>7716524
You aren't required to post in every thread.

Is anyone here into Fredric Jameson?

Where do I start with him? Are his theories useful for understanding literature/lit type things in 2016?

I've decided to get into literary theory, and I like that he's marxist, but also seems to be beyond some of the easier marxist ideas like just looking at who is rich and poor or w/e in a text)
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wasn't he the cultural marxist who dropped marxism like a hot potato and switched to nationalism after the creation of israel? lol why would u study any shit but a scumbag like that
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I'm not into him, but he's nonetheless influential and should be studied if you want to go deep into theory. His essay "Postmodernism, or the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism," is incredibly influential. It was quite controversial when it was first published, but looking back, I think he was very prescient on certain points.
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>>7716183
he petitioned Duke to divest from Israel, i think you're thinking of someone else, maybe Hitchens?

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I definitely see the merit in criticisms of his work for being repetitive/derivative. However I have to say that this is one of my favorite books. Read it once in high school and again in college. Each time it seems to offer something different. The way Murakami blends Eastern symbolism with Western literary structure gives the book a lot of mystery while still being really interesting. It's basically DFW without all the self-doubt and pretension.

I find a lot of parallels with Siddhartha in the whole physical/mental journey aspect. But after all I'm just a linguistics major, what do you think /lit/?
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Japanese Borges is pretty ok.
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>>7716156

I like it too but I still think the ending is a huge anti-climax.

Also, Hard-Boile Wonderland and the End of the World is his real masterpiece.
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>>7716162
Definitely agree with the ending being anti-climactic, but I think that's part of it. Just reread the last page to remind me of it. I think it's all part of Kafka realizing that he's just a normal teenage boy. He went on the same sort of emotional/mental journey that everyone has to go through. Even if his background isn't typical (Oedipus allusions), he's symbolically killed all that. He's got the painting and the music with him on the train back to the real world--the keys to realizing his identity, which is what he set out to do in the first place.

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Sorry /lit/, i don't get the meme.
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>>7715891
It's Pessoa's worst. Don't worry. The only people I've encountered who enjoyed this mediocrity are tumblr trash.
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>>7715891

Then you're normal and have no mental or personality disorders. Congradulations.
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It's a great book, although repetitive. If you don't "get it" you're likely not a narcissist and / or don't suffer avoidant personality disorder

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What do you guys think of IELTS?
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I'm temporarily an ESL teacher to support my studies abroad and as part of my job regularly prepare students for IELTS. Before I start any prep with my students I talk about how bullshit the exam is, how little it correlates to English proficiency, and how opaque IELTS the organization is. I like to think it removes some of the mystique and makes the exam more approachable, but it's mainly for my own selfishness and desire to vent. Performance on IELTS is determined by how well you can memorize long lists of advanced phrases and piece them together to create a narrative.

In my experience, the people who do best on exams of this category are those who have the least need for it; they are chatty and charismatic, able to sustain a conversation about any topic without much help. The people who do need a good grade because they're trying to go abroad are often STEM students/professionals with great analytical skills. This demographic uniformly struggles.
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>>7715735
I concur with teach anon

I haven't participated in an IELTS examination, but a CAE(Certificate of Advanced English)
and from my point of view, it's the same old gibberish - a tonne of phrases and vocab to be memorized so that you can state your opinion or defend a point in a convo or in essay.

In the end, everything is owned to chance. The exam will surely have vocab/grammar that is, not unknown, but uncharted by you and you will end up guessing the thing.I got a B on my exam (that's,what, 7, 8 in IELTS grading?), yet I pretty much devoted more than the required time for study to get an A.
Pretty pissed off about it.
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My advice, don't take yourself too seriously. You will end up burning yourself out.

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Has anyone read/are familiar with the web serial Worm? A friend of mine keeps recommending it, applauding the world and character creation. I read the first chapter and it seemed like reddit tier genre fiction. Does it get any better?
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Reviiiive

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