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What's the best place to start with Thomas Bernhard?
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>>7746603
Gargoyles
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Wootcutters, Yes or The Voice Imitator.
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>>7746603
"Frost" is pretty amazing. Or so I've heard.
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>"Yes, yes!" he said, "it’s very possible you’re right. But I’m glad you’re in good spirits, and are hunting bears, and working, and interested. Shtcherbatsky told me another story—he met you—that you were in such a depressed state, talking of nothing but death...."
>"Well, what of it? I’ve not given up thinking of death," said Levin. "It’s true that it’s high time I was dead; and that all this is nonsense. It’s the truth I’m telling you. I do value my idea and my work awfully; but in reality only consider this: all this world of ours is nothing but a speck of mildew, which has grown up on a tiny planet. And for us to suppose we can have something great—ideas, work—it’s all dust and ashes."
Do you think about death a lot, /lit/?
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I did for a little while, but hunting straightened me out. I'll die the same way all those animals died, and there's no way around it. I look forward to that last moment before I'm extinguished.
What gives me pause is the idea of having children.
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>Do you think about death a lot
Constantly and unwillingly.
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>>7746575
> And for us to suppose we can have something great—ideas, work—it’s all dust and ashes.
I'll wait until I get to Tolstoy's level to get this opinion
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What makes something "timeless?"
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This post gets kind of bloggy at times, but it's justt to clarify some things. If you don't likeit, don't read it.
It's been a while since I read Grendel, but being a somewhat edgy teen I've noticed some of it's principles apply immensely to modern sci-fi and writing. Grendel is pretty dark and excessively adolescent in it's "edginess," but this is entirely on purpose. People seem obsessed with violence these days, and I'm unfortunately part of this addiction to bloodshed. I interpreted Grendel as being a commentary on violence in general, and what really stuck with me was that the thing (or one of the things) that was holding Grendel back from progressing as a being was that all he really cared about was violence and gratification. After reading a certain thread (link here 7743113), it was pointed out to me that modern sci-fi echoes this in how it's largely focused on escapism, violence, and gratification for the reader rather than becoming something beautiful, insightful, and that advances humanity.
I just want to have a chat with a more cultured person than myself about what makes a book "great" or "timeless" and more than a bestseller of the week.
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if i remember highschool correctly it has to have no mass
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OP here. I just want to have a conversation dude. I don't know why being young means I'm automatically not worth talking to.
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>>7746564
no literally in highschool they taught me that if something has no mass it moves at the speed of light and therefore doesn/t experience time, ie. is timeless
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Post your writing routines. What do you do before you sit your ass down? How many words do you usually write? When do you stop? Etc.
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I write at least 500 words per day and one poem usual abab cdcd bcbc adad.
I sit at my desk in my room with a rotating fan in the backround for static noise
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I write when I feel like it. But I feel like it a lot. So this usually means everyday.
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I usually write a page of absolute crap that I end up erasing to get it out of my system, then I'll turn on a podcast (usually Let's Drown Out) and write at least 700 words, if it's a good day I stop around 2500 and do something else to give myself a break. Lately the routine has not been working for me, writers block and all.
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So, I remember there being a children's poem where a dwarf goes out somewhere and his house gets lonely and looks for the dwarf. In the mean time the dwarf goes back home to find his house missing. Anyone remember this? What's the name of this poem?
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The Life of My Father?
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>>7746538
I can't seem to find a poem with that name.
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Friendly reminder that if you read less than a book a week you are a non-reader.
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Friendly reminder that if you read a book for prestige, factual knowledge, or for entertainment, you are not a reader.
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>>7746470
Reader is someone who reads, therefore someone who reads for X reasons is still a reader.
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good thing i'm a writer then
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What is the American meme trilogy
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Infinite Jest
Gravity's Rainbow
Lolita
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>>7746450
>Lolita
>American
zozzle
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This, obviously.
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Dark, obsessive characters
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Hey /lit/. I'm looking for books with dark, obsessive, twisted characters like Sutpen in Absalom, Absalom, like Notes From The Underground, like all of Thomas Bernhard's books. You're probably gonna say Blood Meridian, which is next on my list, but what else is there out there?
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Don't push me 'cos I'm close to the
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self bump. Anyone, any other recommendations?
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damn son just read Blood Meridian its the shit
Ahab is also likely what you're looking for
I casually walked through the romance section in s Barnes and noble. Is the entire genre nothing but shirtless white dudes and girls in fancy dresses?
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you already posted this thread faggot fuck off
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I, dont know, op.
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>>7746411
I think I remember reading that that stuff is essentially just pornography
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Why was Russia so good at literature in the 19th century?
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cold winters, vodka, and autism
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oh god the pic is so good
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Because in a 19th century Russian winter there wasn't shit to do except write.
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So how is Dickens' black sheep?
Pretty much never discussed outside of the first paragraph and the "far better thing that I do" scene. Do people still read this? Is it good?
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I have had this book for four years, and can never get past the second chapter.
I'm probably missing out on a great story, but those chapters are so boring.
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Honestly I have a hard time even understanding the first dozen pages. The book really makes me feel dumb.
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>>7746317
it's a good book
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What does it mean to be "well-read"?
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I always saw it as somebody who has read the essential classics and other, more obscure works. But I guess it could also mean somebody who reads anything they can get their hands on, no matter how pulpy, trashy or high-brow.
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When you meet someone who is, you'll know.
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nothing
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What does /lit/ think of DH Lawrence?
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his prose is nice.
also if he were still around today he'd probably have a solid 20 terabytes of beastiality porn and a good 5 more of every other fetish
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>also if he were still around today he'd probably have a solid 20 terabytes of beastiality porn and a good 5 more of every other fetish
Why do you think that
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His poetry is pretty good too
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>In another dissertation, he examines the theological works of Hugo, Bishop of Ptolemais, great-grand-uncle to the writer of this book, and establishes the fact, that to this bishop must be attributed the divers little works published during the last century, under the pseudonym of Barleycourt
Why is this allowed?
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Fun fact, today is Hugo's birthday
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>>7746136
wow! i forgot to buy him a present!! haha!
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>>7746136
Who?
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Is he right? Is the Divine Comedy sci-fi?
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>>7746087
Borges said the same thing, basically.
He loved Dante and he loved the Quran because it was trippy fantasy to him.
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>>7746094
Wolfe said since theology is a science, The Divine Comedy is sci-fi
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>>7746087
Who is spamming Wolfe threads? Like ask in one of the two already going.