What's your favorite piece of work by Salinger?
And, if you have the time, why is favorite piece of work by Salinger your favorite?
What I've found strange about these books is that there's neither a decline or incline in Salinger's writing, the quality of it. Where typically writers become better as they age, it seems like in the earliest of these books Salinger's writing is as meaningful and technically impressive as the latest of these books; however, I haven't finished Raise high the Roof Beam, so maybe I'll prove my own idea untrue.
Are there some writers that speak of Western religion the same way he speaks of Eastern religion?
>>7750223
>be mid 30s
>forced to read Catcher in both 8th and 10th grade due to curriculum changes
>dont care for it
>people do book reports on it every year, lecture to class about it
>still dont care about it
>get to college, forced to read it in contemp lit
>still dont get the big deal
>try to date /lit/ qts
>they namedrop it and want to discuss it
>little cousins get older and want to talk books with me since my aunts tell them im a goto for help with humanities shit
>my kids are getting older and i look on their junior high book curriculum
>there it is
>look at hs
>there it is
>go on /lit/
>there it is
Seriously fuck this book. The Bell Jar is better.
>>7750237
Why don't you care for it?
Have you read his other work?
>>7750248
Ive actually thought about this.
The plot, prose, games with sexuality, existential crisis...whatever, Ive read similar stuff before. Shit, No Longer Human is very similar albeit a bit more sociopathic.
I think its that I absolutely hate Holden more than any protagonist Ive ever read, and being forced to read it over and over as only made me hate him more. Every sentence is whining to me.
Most books are longer than necessary.
>>7750218
That's not Jorges.
>half way through IJ
>Desperately want to read The Sound And The Fury
Why is it so fucking long?
>Book is immensely long
>You begin reading it and enjoy it immensely
>suddenly the characters and style of writing you enjoyed end and a bunch of shit you dont care about happens
>there seems to be no end of it
Savage Detectives and 2666 I'm looking at you.
I tried to pick a book the other day but I really couldn't make my mind up,
it seems I'm just unable to "judge" books.
Maybe the problem is that I'm always looking for something so specific I can't just open my mind up for a book that doesn't fit 100% my requirements.
For example I was looking for a book about travels and the wilderness, and I came across this book,
seemed kinda nice but I was afraid it would have been too "simple" so I didn't pick it.
I think if I had a social circle related to books I'd have less trouble finding new reads.
Tldr: I don't know what to read.
Either something on the lines of twin peaks maybe, or alan wake if you're familiar with videogames,
or anything you think a pleb might be interested in.
>>7750119
Your pic is pertinent. Have you read Coloane? It may well fit your "travels and wilderness" appetite; his short stories are superb.
>>7750158
I'm sure I went trough every author on that shelf, but I don't recall anything from Coloane really standing out to me.
Maybe Cape horn, but I'm not sure.
Now that I think about it I should look into the Aubrey–Maturin series, I remember looking at it some time ago but they're hard to find around here.
I've been writing a book for years, bit every time I try I lose passion or something gets in the way and I end up talking huge breaks. During these breaks I always rethink parts of the book and change shit and now I can't bring myself to write because I know I'll just change it later. Anyone have this problem?
That's not a 'problem'.
>>7750103
If you keep changing shit before you're done of course you'll never finish. Finish an entire draft, then edit it.
>>7750103
Take notes on what you want to change in a separate document/notebook. Finish a first draft of the whole thing then refer to those notes when revising.
I saw it in about 2012, I think it was fairly new. Judging from the front cover, it was set in San Francisco, in the modern times. Possible short story collection. The cover was blue and orange, with a girl looking out over the city.
I know this is vague, but does anyone remember it? I was just thinking of it, and maybe I'll buy it soon. Saw it a few years ago, as I said.
>>7750051
here u go my brother
top kek. I needed that chart this morning OP. Thanks man.
How is it possible that a man who wrote a few genuinely great scifi novels makes nearly entirely crap? He has to be one of the most inconsistent writers I've ever read. Even in the books that aren't Enders Game or Speaker for the Dead that are entertaining they themselves are massively hit and miss, having some subplots that bore me to sleep while others that are genuinely interesting. It's like he doesn't even understand why people like his work.
What few "genuinely great" novels are those then?
Look; the dude has some themes, he writes on them a lot. Once or twice they happened to come together in a way that appealed to people, but he didn't do it on purpose, it was just accidental. Throw enough shit at the wall, some of it will stick.
>>7750048
I just assumed this effect was from growing up and no longer enjoying the books I liked as a child.
I'm old enough to remember when people didn't immediately fetishize and glorify their childhood movies/books, never moving on to something newer.
>>7750048
Nothing he wrote was great or even good. Ender's Game was overrated YA shite.
I couldnt find a request thread, so I guess Ill make this and see if it works.
I used to read up to 10 books a week from the ages of 8-14. and today I have vague memories of some that were really good and I think my daughter may like.
One was Worry warts, it was a really good story, with an amazing theme to it. I just found it/got reminded of it through a thread on here.
But I have some others I just cant remember the names to. I only remember a few "scenes" of them so Ill list them now.
I think it may be a Jennings or Gleitzman title, but it was about a boy whos father owned a fish and chip shop in england (possibly), and next door some people opened up a hamburger shop, the "scene" i remember is where the father goes to the hamburger shop and tries to casually make conversation trying to survey this new competition, the father casually asks if hamburger shop owner dose fish and chips, answer is no, hamburger shop asks if father dose hamburgers, answer is no, tension instantly drops from memory and a friendship ensues.
Another is about a group of kids who live in a town with a vacant lot in it. They decide to build a fort and end up making quite an amazing one from scrap and gathered resources. it has a fire pole too from memory. but then the town wants to build somthing and want to knock it down and the kids stand up and antics ensue with them trying to stop it being demolished.
Another is about 3(?) kids who become lost on a family holiday or are abandoned, they come across a rubbish dump where many other children have come and live there building shantys out of iron, they look for scrap to get money I think and scrape by a living, one "scene" i remember is a child gets injured in an landslide of rubbish when a truck comes and dumps more rubbish. another scene is a bunch of teens/young adults on motorbikes/buggys come along and cause trouble, wrecking the shantys or beating some of them up?
and finally a book about some children whos father goes away to work as a door to door salesman(?), in the basement there are a large amount of pills, vitamins or somthing of the like, the children make a jam (pretty sure its purple) and add the pills to it which have amazing effects on people getting energy and everyone wants more untill one day the pills run out. a particular "scene" is where the grumpy woman next door, who i recall is called Miss Eva, is spotted by the kids soon after eating some jam vigorosly mowing her own lawn. also the boy in the story who dislikes her very much makes up a song "I hate you mis eva, I really dooo"
I may remember the others later, but hopefully someone can help?
Thanks in advance, it is much appreciated.
I have one.
I read this in elementary school. It was about a girl and this old mean man who lived by the river. She always wondered why the old man was so mean, but he let her collect turtles down by the river.
The old man dies, shes sad and learns that he was a really nice person anyhow.
They made a movie about it. It was black and white.
>>7750033
i dont have any leads sorry op, but that one about the fish and chip shop sounds very familiar to me.
if you have any inklings about the decades these came out that would probably help others track them down.
they would be late 80's possibly 90's, but I couldnt be 100%
Its possible that the one about the abandoned kids may be aimed at teens, the other 3 would be childrens books. around the size/length of jennings books in chapters etc.
I hope someone dose know them, I can picture reading the parts so clearly, but the names just arent there...
>>7751223
This possibly rings a bell, did the old man live in an old decrepit house with a very over grown garden, and she explores and finds the back door before she meets the old man?
Did she deserve the Nobel Prize or she only won because she's an African American female writer? Beloved was decent and Song of Solomon is pretty good, but neither were great imo.
The Nobel is a joke, it doesn't matter.
>>7750022
the Nobel is awarded not so much on literary merit, but on how it tries to challenge social topics. you should know this by now. there are other awards that do the other.
>>7750022
What dictionary should I 'cop?'
If you have a brain and spellcheck on your computer you shouldn't need a dictionary. Now go back to /fa/.
the oxford english dictionary is the only acceptable answer, anything else and you might as well declare yourself an inbred illiterate invalid.
>>7749983
Where did you get this pic? Is it from a movie? Is there more?
Man it hits me in the feels. I'm not from lit,i saw it in the front page, but I came in here to see it...
I lost my younger brother to anorexia. We never took it very serioysly until it was too late. We thought it was exclusively a teenage girls' disease...
His name was Jerico.
Sorry I just needed to vent
ITT: the best representation of God.
>>7749985
top kek/10.
seriously though, is the Koran good? I've never read it besides random entries that were out of context. Does it get into the nature of God well?
Strikes both awe and fear into the hearts of those that behold Him.
I want to be chained to her radiator and forced to lick up and swallow all the dirt from under her fingernails every day.
>>7749936
>>7749936
Hey lit whats the meaning of this line
"When cracks begin to show, dont paper over everything we know"
Its from a lyric to a song "They way we are by Jessie Ware"
"To err is human"
Sometimes when drywall begins to crack from age or poor maintenance, people put wallpaper over it to hide said cracks. The song's narrator is telling the object of his affection that when their relationship becomes less than perfect, they shouldn't try to hide that behind a thin veneer of faked happiness.
Or something like that.
>>7749919
Thanks
Wanna read some metaphysics, any suggestions?
>>7749837
Aristotle -> Descartes -> Leibniz / Locke -> Carnap
>>7749842
I'll check em out
Math noob/filhty autodictat here, would like an elementary doubt cleared please
Can I say that all real numbers that can be represented as the length of the one of the sides of a 2D object are not transcendental numbers?
Can I say that all real numbers that cannot be represented as the length of one of the sides of a 2D object are transcendental?
Pic related (sort of?)
>>7749810
This is the literature board.
Yes to both if you can prove it.
When someone tells me he couldn't understand Holden Caulfield's perspective, I am either sure he is lying or some kind of socially inept mongoloid.
>>7749782
Or... not a criminal...?
>>7749782
heads up this site has an age restriction
>>7749785
Is this bait