Post digital libraries preferably iBooks.
fucking luv ibooks brah thats the only shit ill read a electronic book on
the best part about ibooks is if the fbi confiscates my phone they won't be able to listen to my fucking thomas pynchon audiobook collection
>>7752520
>thinking they'd want to
Okay let's talk about my favorite character in Infinite Jest... the P.G.O.A.T. herself, Joelle Van Dyne.
The central question for her is whether or not she was disfigured by the acid. She explicitly tells Gately that the veil she is wearing the veil because she is too beautiful... yet passage after passage about Orin's acid dodging skills and Joelle's lack seem to imply she WAS disfigured.
She says: “In other words you hide your hiding… U.H.I.D. allows members to be open about their essential need for concealment. In other words we don the veil. We don the veil and wear the veil proudly and stand very straight and walk briskly wherever we wish, veiled and hidden, but now completely up-front and unashamed about the fact that how we appear to others affects us deeply, about the fact that we want to be shielded from all sight. U.H.I.D. supports us in our decision to hide openly.” (535)
Doesn't it feel very DFW that after all of this she still isn't open about what she is hiding openly? She still wants to impress Don by beautiful, even though he won't see either way.
I realized this a couple days ago and now I am really fucking sad. How did you guys interpret this little section?
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it is.
I thought it was an allusion to Oedipus
>>7750903
How do you mean?
Where does this 'BNW is dystopic' meme come from?
You realise Huxley only said that back peddling decades later when he was catering to the new age community, right?
You also realise Island is pretty much BNW dressed up in hippie rags, right?
>>7749530
I think it comes from the fact that it's massively apparent in the text. Stop clogging the board with your stupid clickbait shitposts.
None of the main characters end up happy. The story ends with a suicide. How could you consider this anything but dystopic?
>>7749638
Quote some examples please.
I've started reading this, is it a good way to get into philosophy?
What would the next step be?
seems like an interesting thread on Nagal that could emerge.
>>7745407
Thomas Nagel is a pretty cool guy. Eh shits all over Daniel Dennett and doesn't afraid of anything.
>>7745982
Where's a good place to start with him? I am only slightly aware of his work.
Book mark thread
Post em
>>7742642
I just use torn strips of lined paper.
>>7742684
Yeah, this
Hey /lit/, could you suggest me which one of these books should I read first and why?
The last books I read were:
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Lord of The Flies
Nineteen Eighty-Four
Invisible Monsters (meh)
The Picture of Dorian Gray
Crime and Punishment
>>7754342
I dont know.
>>7754342
On the Road, without a doubt. Get off the computer and go read it, right now. Preferably with a pot of coffee nearby and outside somewhere, and if not, then in an overstuffed armchair in a small apartment with a cigarette in hand.
I'd go with Slaughterhouse-Five. Why? Because it's short and easy to read, for one, but also because it's a good introduction to Vonnegut if you're into that sort of philosophical/fantastical style. With some of these other books (Brothers K., Don Quixote, The Stranger) you'd need preferably two things: a decent amount of knowledge surrounding their historical contexts and a group with which to discuss them. Those are definitely books that warrant hours of discussion, and are sort of wasted if picked up as casual reads. Vonnegut's writing is more accessible and remains thought-provoking to some extent, but it's also an interesting story.
Can an English degree serve as a base for a stable career? Or do I have my head in the clouds?
yes.
I'm unaware of any better starting qualification for work in any retail job nor any better point of entry into the fastfood industry.
>>7754146
>manual labor
>stable career
if only
So I got laid-off Friday. My boss was trying to be extra nice and gave me a box of Larry Niven books. He's an old guy and wanted to help fill my time. Letting me keep my job would have been better...
So can /lit/ confirm the reading order?
>World of Ptavvs
>Protector
>Fleet Of Worlds - Betrayer of Worlds
>Ringworld series
>Fate Of Worlds
All of the timelines I"ve searched do not have the Fleet series involved except for the first book.
Thank you.
Wow laid off and a box of shit? I love some good sf, but all those are garbage.
He should have offered you his wrinkly old cock, at least you'd have a semen high for half a week.
Start with Ringworld, if you like it move on to Ringworld engineers. I got sick of Larry Nivens after those two.
>>7754000
those trips
Post the best autobiographies
Pic unrelated, it's not an autobiography
Pessoa - The Book of Disquiet
Merton - Seven Storrey Mountain
St. Augustine - Confessions
gravity's rainbow
>>7753937
In the vain of your thread,
The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas
Hey /Lit/. I am a 25 year old male. I am not super well read but I have read quite a bit during my time on this planet. However, I would love to read more. What authors and books do I REALLY need to read to become a substantial contributor on /Lit/.
-Thanks, /Lit/
>>7753899
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading
>>7753899
Read the god damn sticky, faggot.
>>7753899
what have you read?
I want to write something like a composition of ten or more poems, whose themes might be insanity, erotic love, horror, pleasure, instinct, death and obscure atmospheres. I'm already at a good point, but I want more.
So can you tell me books or works related to these themes?
>>7753893
maybe... nah.. you're not ready.
You might want to try reading (or watching) a few absurdist plays as their surrealism in an attempt to represent existential struggle is often disturbing and reminiscent of madness (circular conversations, imagery of reality starting to blur into the struggles of the perceivers mind).
Eg Life without me by Daniel Keene
>>7753918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPjvsd-9DC0&ab_channel=CroesyDrama
this is cool too.
I'm so sick of Daenerys and Tyrion getting all the intention, even amongst book fans.
Theon is, in my opinion, the best and most tragic character in the entire A Song of Ice and Fire series.
He goes from being an arrogant Prince in the first and second books to being a broken and tortured man in the fifth book. I don't think enough people understand the complexity of his character enough, especially show fans, but book ones too.
It actually makes me angry how many people dismiss his character as being nothing more than a bad person. They tend to view him as being very one-dimensional, where he is anything but. He's actually one of the most fleshed out and well developed characters in the entire series.
Yes, he's a horrible human being in the second book, and even to a certain extent in the fifth one, but he develops and grows so much. It's hard not to feel sympathetic for him once you know his backstory and the torture he eventually goes through.
What do the fans of A Song of Ice and Fire here think of Theon?
And this is unrelated to literature, but the actor who plays him on the show is, in my opinion, the best actor on the show.
man who gives a shit
Bookfags tend to agree he's one of the best characters
>genre fiction
>complex character
Good one. You almost had me for a second.
Is there even such a thing as retrowave books?
I fell in love with the genre of music and it sucked me right in. I'd love to be able to also read works of the same vein.
Any suggestions appreciated.
>>7753288
Oh shit bump
>>7753288
Have you read any 80s Cyberpunk? I think at that point it lacked enough self-awareness for what you are after.
Maybe you could call Ready Player One an ironic callback to that era but it's complete garbage.
How would a romanticized modern USA look like in the future literature ?
Well our first step is in electing Trump president.
I'm going to write a book on this now, thanks for the idea
>>7753072
godspeed
How do I get re-started with writing? It gave me a lot of joy when I was young, but I stopped doing it in my first college attempt. I think I stopped when I started reading/writing a lot of I guess "experimental" stuff like Beckett, Pynchon, and my writing was reflecting a lot of that, lost in its own cleverness and self-awareness, completely unable to tell a story because of how simple and pointless it felt to do so. I think the second thing that stopped me was realizing that unless I was completely writing only for myself, I was always evaluating my writing as if I was showing it off to someone. And if I fought against, I found there was no point to it besides this pandering. Even writing for myself, I'd think about how my future self would see it.
Even now, I'm already changing my mind on wanting to write again. What do you think I should do about this? Just skip it? Force myself to write a story? A novel? A blog? Sorry for the shitty post.
I have the same problem.
Ego-death would be a solution, since no-one cares for my writing, anyway, so why should I care?
What do you want to do with your writing?
>>7752990
Reading my favorite authors and more experimental authors (obviously that last part didn't work for you) makes me want to write. I love seeing how many directions a writer can go with the written word because it reminds me that I'm in a creative process, not a slog to an arbitrary goal.