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Hemingway is grade-school tier prose and easy as pie. Canterbury Tales is really garbage as literature and more relevant as a historical artifact.

>>7807963
>I've never read these things, I just come on /lit/ and steal people's opinions

Hemingway would be fine OP, but I'd recommend Tolstoy's short stories personally.

Hadji Murat
Ivan Ilyich
Kreutzer Sonata
Prisoner of the Caucasus
The Devil

You could also just read Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist assuming that you haven't read them already. If you haven't then I highly recommend it.

>>7807947
The Sun also Rises is a nice, easy book to read.

It is kind of sad though, it's about the WW1 generation after the war, trying to continue to live. I like it enough to have reread it a few times, the character Robert Cohn in particular is interesting.

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My vote goes to Pound if it is written in a Cantos style

hank green

>>7807552
/thread, no one is gonna bear this

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Wow, Anon, that sounds like a totally rad original idea!

>>7807548
I've had this idea years before the movie came out. The emotions are supposed to be subtle, something that the reader has to think about, but clear when pointed out. Every character would act like a normal person, but some aspects would be stronger than others

>>7807602
>>7807548
which in turn was a direct descendant of the tv show herman's head. it went into his psyche where 4 characters represented his id, ego, superego, and anima. or hell, even sex in the city had the four main characters based on astrological elements, earth, air, fire, and water.

i'm sure there are other examples, op's idea is just a variation on the use of archetypes, but execution is what matters, not the concept. you can have the best idea in the world and make it garbage by not knowing how to create characters and conflict with depth, or bungling the narrative structure.

>>7807520
why would you bother someone who looks so comfy?

>>7807522
I hope he is enjoying his rest

Thoughts?

>>7807431
that would be the greatest thing ever. the main reason i hate a lot of literature is because authors turn it into a glamor issue, a book all about them. take the person out of it, you get an entirely unselfish piece of work

Probably not. I like working out the author's intent and understanding how they achieved various things.

>>7807439
Read Wikipedia articles. That's effectively the result of removing the human element.

Forbrytelse og straff familie

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>>7807436
You really should read Moby Dick. In fact, even if you'd already read it, I'd recommend you reread it.

i copped the audiobook on itunes when it was on sale for 6 bucks, but i didnt get around to listenign to it yet since it's like 50 hours long or some shit, the parts i sampled seemed pretty patrish tho

>>7807401
I don't think I could ever listen to Pynchon on audiobook. How can you trust the narrator to give the right emphasis, interpret dialect, recite poems, etc. correctly? Plus there's so many instances where I need/want to go back and immediately reread passages for clarity, having the audio just carry on would make it too hard to comprehend.

>>7807445
because it's read by a patrician shakespearean actor who has a more elite education than u do, stay pleb

But was it rape OP?

absolutely

>>7807357
>does concern for children and the poor equate to Marxism?
also
>proto-

>>7807340
You'll be hated for reading King on lit but fuck them.

I liked Batman and Robin, A death, The Little Green God of Agony, Obits, Drunken Fireworks, and Summer Thunder.

Ur was shit tier though, terrible story.

Stephen king is not literature.
Sage and report

>>7807380
I disliked "bad little kid" the most, it was okay, but the ending was really unoriginal
I really liked morality and a death, think they are going to stick in my head for a while

Any book whatsoever will help you develop your writing. Even the shitty ones. Just read as much as you can and try and take note of what you think the author does right or wrong.

>>7807322
On Writing by Stephen King

>>7807332
Yes, I do that anyway.
I was looking for books which were made in a teaching format.

I will always rely on studying the books I read, but having a supplementary book alongside it which can be referred to to understand how and why certain sentences are effective and pleasurable to read is the main goal here.

>>7807369
>On Writing by Stephen King

This is the sort of book which I was looking for.
I'd like to compile a list of reference books in the future, which could hopefully help people find a first step if studying their favourite books isn't their ideal learning medium.

Thank you for the suggestion also anon.

He meant to show that he is capable of completing a 15 year old project of his that he really should have just abandoned.

Kind of like those guys who can throw beer kegs full of concrete around. No reason to do it, isn't even very impressive to watch....but they sure did a lot of hard work to do it.

he meant what he said

>>7807342
>Kind of like those guys who can throw beer kegs full of concrete around. No reason to do it, isn't even very impressive to watch....but they sure did a lot of hard work to do it.
they dont fill kegs with concrete, they just fill it with water. i used to do strongman. its all about the competition. its like doing the most useful workout, trying to work on practical muscles (although i dont imagine myself throwing stuff over my head often). olympic lifting is a sport, strongman is a job, and bodybuilding is an art form (or it used to be). i dont lift anymore, i just drink

great criticism, im sure it will spark an inspiring debate

This book is absolutely flawless. I don't see how some of you guys speak of a "non-ending". I mean, the quest ends. Is he really gonna tell all the post-story about what they do in Kinakuta and whatnot? I think it was pretty well wrapped up.

That being said, I envision Cryptonomicon to be, down the road, recognized as the first great novel of the 21st Century (even tho its barely in the 20th). Some people mention the cryptology/math/phylosophical parts being "boring" or cumbersome, but as a person who is an absolute layman in Mathematics (High School Graduate, although I've always been interested in these topics), Cryptonomicon makes a fun, accesible approach to these subjects. Not only it illustrates perfectly the impact of high-level math on out everyday lives and on our history, but it takes you through the tour of how do people even come up with such genious stuff. I would not know today who Turing was (I would know he was some gay math guy, but that's it) without Stephenson.

His approach to the whole Hacker Culture phenomena has excelled in making hacking as theatrical and exciting as it is, without going into utter bullshit or Jamesbondish exaggerations. I was fascinated by Phreaking Van Eck, I was fascinated when he develops the "face recording software" on the fly on the meeting on Kinakuta, I was fascinated with with the whole idea behind information warfare, and the whole plot about "we know but we cant let them know that we know" during WWII.

The fact that he can go into such complex, "cumbersome" heavy subjects (like for example Enoch Root's dissertation about Ares/Athena, which was one of my favorite parts of the book) while at no point forgeting to make you smile, or to make you expectant or to make you excited was absolutly new for me. Before Stephenson, Novels were plots, stories, mere fiction for funs. If I wanted Knowledge, I went to non-fiction. Stephenson changed this for me, being at the same time entertainer and teacher with his writing. To me, it was deeply and utterly mindblowing, new and perfect.

10/10

>>7807305
It's one of the two modern books (alongside Gaiman's American Gods) that I can really see being true classics down the line.

>>7807286
Richard Dawkins.

Hegel.

My Italian friend (who has read both in their native languages) says he thinks Dante was the better poet. Going off of the Mandelbaum translation, I'd probably agree with him, though I haven't read PR yet.

>>7807280
lombardo is shit. OP goofed

It depends on what you're looking for in a translation. If you want something loose and very readable, it's the tops, with Rodney Merrill being on other side of the spectrum of being as faithful as possible to rhythm and literalness. Fagles probably falls in the middle.

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>>7807280
> picked it up because I liked the cover

>>7807220
Biographies.

>>7807230
Can you be more specific than that? Which biographies in particular would be the most helpful?

>>7807230
>Biographies
> Mein kampf

k3k xD