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>Main character's occupation: Writer
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But what if the writers occupation isn't the second third or fourth main conflict of the story? What then, dipshit?
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You tried this yesterday and it didn't work. Twy a new troll bub.
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>>7810973
Though it's important to write what you know, when you end up writing a story basically about yourself, you've missed the whole point of literature.

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Is this any good or is it just a meme? I picked it up at the bookstore the other day and read a few pages; the prose was fucking terrible.
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you're retarded

go back to /reddit/
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You have no taste kill yourself
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>>7810938
Oh man, sorry to hear that OP. I really enjoyed it, and enjoy Bolano in general. You could probably chalk it up to a difference in taste.

Maybe try The Savage Detectives, and see if that's more your taste? If you don't like that one either, it's likely Bolano just isn't for you.

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wtf does "Tradition" mean anyhow?
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>>7810931
>When the Way is lost, there is goodness.
>When goodness is lost, there is morality.
>When morality is lost, there is ritual.
>Ritual is the husk of true faith
>the beginning of chaos.

for ritual, read tradition
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Living in caves, raping women and killing each other while sacrificing sheep to statues
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>>7810931

It is a line of defense that prevents us from falling for the degeneracy of the modern world.

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Has there ever been a more perfect embodiment of the Nietzschean Übermensch?

>rejected the values of the mandarin china, the same mandarin values that nietzsche despised, so he destroyed them in the cultural revolution
>did not believe in any god or higher moral power
>perfect embodiment of this-worldliness: remade a nation of billion people to his vision
>believed in the concept of constant revolution, actively promoting strife and crisis as catalysts for change
>rejected soviet communism and rebuilt the idea: a creator of new values
>did not fear death: risked nuclear war in multiple instances to accomplish goals
>absolute will to power
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>>7810926
a moifucking chink cant be the pber yo uu
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>>7810926
I actually agree with you.
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>>7810987
kind of a good example up until the later years of his life anyway, when he was functionally dependent on his advisers and not quite 100% there. Also, kind of shows why the Nietzschean Ubermensch can be a totally shit ideal in reality.

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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger_und_der_Nationalsozialismus

Why does a philosopher's political orientation deserve >9k pages

Shit like this makes me feel so impotent and mad. What kind of time am I living in?

Did the Greeks not keep slaves? Did Kant not troll niggers?

Is this obsession with nazism still ongoing in real academia? I want to study philosophy but if I would constantly have to watch out for everyone's meme sensibilities when I'm arguing in the realm of pure thought and possibilities I think I'd rather pass. Fuck. I don't know if I'm gonna make it anymore.
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>>7810886
>Is this obsession with one of the main causes of postmodernism still ongoing in real postmodernist academia?

wew
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>>7810900
Then postmodernism a shit. This is all a meme isn't it. I should have been born a century ago but the matrix did a poopie cause of the y2k bug, that's it.
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>>7810908
why don't you care for postmodernism?

I don't care for the nazism obsession either, mind you, but you can simply ignore it - because postmodernism.

>literally autism: the book
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>>7810873
I would argue it's more someone who's fundamentally flawed and sadistic. Autism is a lack of connection through a lack of understanding, he understands the world but takes it all to himself. It's as if he blames the world for hurting him and then he hurts the lowest among us.
Not autism Anon
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Literally not
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>mfw someone jostles me on the street

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Is his fiction worth a go? Never heard much about the guy.
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>>7810850

>Dude... heroin lmao
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>>7810850
My other half reads his stuff, she enjoys his books though she found Shark was a particularly difficult read.
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hes literally the biggest cunt who ever lived

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Why is this book considered brilliant? It reads like a self insert fanfiction. Literally every famous historical person he meets comments on how smart the aurthor is.

Can you imagine a modern day equivalent of this shit?
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wewlad
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>>7810805
If you cannot see how it's a masterpiece then there's no real point in discussing literature at all with you m8. It's like you didn't understand a single word in the book...
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>>7810805
>>7810806
>References and self aggrandizing
>Masterpiece

It's shit. It's only famous because it was one of the first medieval and surviving European political satire book of it's time.

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what is the point of reading philosophy if you wont use it to better the world and only yourself?
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>>7810726
to better myself
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A better self= better world
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To achieve peace through understanding.

I'd rather commit suicide than live in constant mental/emotional/spiritual turmoil.

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I hate the first stanza, but I'm going to post it anyway. Plz tips on how to improve

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When feeling fades
I expect the relief
of the freedom
being finally released from
the lighting that dragged me for months

Yet
desire leaves a hollow
when it goes
I can't deny it; it's there
the absence of nothingness
laughing at matureness
supposed to kill it at birth

Puppy love is being missed
I was always fond of fluffy beings
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I think that's cool, maybe you should work on the rhythm ?
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The Eater of Dreams 1/2

A warm and forward wind hums through the treetops.

The black hand children run when they see me, crouched as I am at the top of a baobob.
‘Cours! Allons-y! II y a le mal dans cet arbre!’
There is an evil in this tree.
Am I an evil?
I lift my spindly fingers to wave.
But they do not notice, their backs disappear into the forest, fear in their wobbling shrieks.
And I continue, dead-eyed.
Continue to scratch and to scratch and to scratch and to dig and to dig and to dig. Nails chipping and cracking with every drag across the bark.
In hope of grubs and insects.
In hope of finding something.
Here is one that’s square, and subtly less alive than the others.
Swallow, feel the beat hit me.
What is it.
Where is it.
How will it affect me.
My pupils balloon and fill my strepsirrhine eyes.
The hair on my bulbous knuckles bristles.
My internal organs retract and dehydrate.
I cling to the trunk as the world whips around me.
And as the larvae drags me through the cracks in reality.
Across the great gulfs of absolutely fucking nothing.
And into the twilight realm.
The sleeping realm.
The kingdom of rapid eye movement and dimethyltryptamine trances.
The stars are portals which solar winds pour out of like a smoking gun barrel.
The moon is a fermenting orb of liquid ambrosia and aqua vitae and potentially semen.
The distant lights of fires
Across the canopy.
Messages between dark eyed men and women
Who sharpened stones in fear of the coming night.
And I am that coming night.
I am at odds with all that was.
I am one with all that is.
My tongue be forked.
My eyes be fire.
My baobob be a nebula.
My heart be the drumbeat under the quantum strings of the universe.
This be my land.
Where the rain is black.
Where the snakes bite with sugar.
Where the birdsong has rhythm.
Where I am the King of Kings of Madagasikara, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Elect of God.
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2/2

And now,
Where the children run screaming toward me:
Please, Daubentonia, please eat our dreams.
Our dreams, they terrify us, we cannot live our lives but for the fear we feel when the sun goes down and our lids grow heavy.
Wherefore are our dreams so uncivil and barbarous, Sweet Daubentonia?
Wherefore must we dream, and not stay awake forever?
And I thunder in my arboreal tongue:
Whoever said you were asleep when you dream?
What dost thou mean, foul cannibal ape?
I don’t know, I’m just trying to sound portentous.
Eat the dreams, little monkey!
And they proffer them to me, as sweets and jewels illustrious in their glad and glucose-rich fruition.
I feast, because it is the only thing that pulls me along.
How do they taste, prosimian?
They taste like you are very afraid.
What fun, we are so very afraid!
As you should be, for the storm is coming. I see the inferno and the lightning. I see God killing the infidels.
Fucking God, always with the killing infidels.
Tell us more, little ape.
Order and purpose are fallacies.
Brilliant.
If I were you I’d end it now.
That’s the plan, tree-rat.
Tie stones to your feet and jump in the river or eat unknown fruit or just put your fingers in electrical sockets.
We were thinking ropes. They follow us everywhere. Nooses from the branches of rainforest trees.
Great idea. Let me know if it works.
We are very afraid.
I don’t care any more.
Goodbye, night demon.
Oh, I’m feeling it.
We are going to run now.
Come up and get me.
No.
I’m in your area.
Goodbye, we are broken.
I gave you the fever, aye aye.
You gave us the fever, aye aye.
And they run again.
The sky fades to blue.

I drift back.
The gulf of reality closes.
The tree coalesces under me.
My tongue is flat.
My eyes see dark.
My tree is rotten.
My heart is a pitter patter in silence.
A faltering one.
A candle waiting to be blown out.

I was at one with all that was.
I am at odds with all that is.

A chill and backward wind hisses through the treetops.

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Are there any readers on /lit/ who work in IT? Cyberpunk seems to be a perfect fit for me. More specifically necromancer and the sprawl trilogy. Seems to be a nice mix of tech jargon coupled with fantasy. Anyone care to elaborate?
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I just bought Necromancer. Starting it tomorrow after the last 25 pages of Gravity's Rainbow.
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>>7810729
>necromancer
Yeah I meant neuromancer. Silly phone autocorrected it.
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>>7810737
Same...I didn't even realize.

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Any books like Colm Toibin's Brooklyn? I saw the movie and would very much like to read the book but practically all the copies in the UC system are checked out and due next year
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this movie was so inoffensive I actually liked it
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>>7810693
The Go-between by L.P. Hartley
It's got very similar themes and it was also turned into a great film in 1971.
Plus, Colm Toibin wrote the Introduction to the NYRB edition.
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>>7811006
pic rel looks like he is plying Who am I

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"So...read any good books lately?"
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>man being held hostage by books i've read lately.jpg
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>>7810405
jej
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What's your point, OP?

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Serious question, why does /lit/ have such pleb taste? Reading /lit/ is like ease dropping on a high school sophomore book club. The most discussed authors and books here are all mainstream entry-level trash.

Every other board prides themselves on having obscure, esoteric, often bordering on contrarian taste. Ask /tv/ for a list of their favourite films and you'll get a list akin to:
Goodbye Dragon Inn
Hard to be a God
Moe no Suzaku
Tussenstand
Je, tu, il, Elle
Il deserto rosso
The Spirit of the Beehive
A Woman Under the Influence
Vivre sa Vie
Ascenseur pour l'échafaud
LA_VIE_A_L_ENVERS
Scener ur ett äktenskap
麦秋
Shadow of a doubt
Viridiana
Mouchette
Höstsonaten
Aguirre Wrath Of God
大红灯笼高高挂
Лeтят жypaвли

Ask /mu/, /a/ or literally any other board for some recs and you're bound to get a similarly esoteric, non entry-level list.
Ask your average red/lit/tor for their favourite books and you'll get an unironic list of books by entry-level meme authors that wouldn't be out of place on a community college undergrads bookshelf. Most likely something like:
DFW
Bolano
Bukowski
Pynchon
Danielewski
Zizek
Joyce
Nabakov
Dostoevsky
Kafka
Gaddis

So /lit/, I ask you, why is your taste so pleb? Is it because this entire board a meme, in which no one actually reads? Are you all just pseuds and poseurs that treat 'reading' as an accessory to your appearance? Or maybe reading has become too large of a barrier to entry these days and I'm just expecting to much out of /lit/s obviously young ADD-riddled demographic
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a lot of them are pseuds with fomo
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>>7810383
Shoo retard, shoo
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>>7810390
Answer my question first.

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Is John Green the greatest writer of our time?
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>>7810311
That's not John Green, that's John Grey.
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He really is #dftba

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