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>>7815631

It's just a bunch of Greeks and Trojans fighting for 500 pages. You can't give a summary because there's not much of a story.

Its main theme is honor. Think about why the poem ends on Hektor's death and funeral and what makes that so important.

The very first word of the Iliad is “RAGE.” The “RAGE” of Achilles when his honor is violated and his rightful prize and love is taken from him by his very own commander.

Right here we see Man versus State, as Achilles is the superior warrior, and as he takes all the risks, he ought get the reward. That is the Natural Law of Zeus, for after Achilles Natural Rights are violated and Achilles quits, Zeus sees to it that the Greeks begin to lose, as Zeus’s will was done.

Long before Atlas Shrugged in Rand’s cheap novel, Achilles quit the Greek army.

Homer shows that women who honor their commitments, like Penelope, lead to happy endings. Women who disregard their commitments, like Helen, lead to War.

Achilles quits for the sake of Honor, refuses to return when offered millions times more prizes, arguing that once honor is taken away, mere money/prizes cannot buy it back. He also reasons that all the wealth in the world is not worth him losing his life in an arena where his honor was taken away. When offered honors and awards, Achilles states, “I receive my honor from Zeus, not from corrupt Kings."

And too Achilles returns to fight for Honor, so as to avenge the death of his friend Patroculus, knowing full well he will die.

Simply put, Achilles is a man who lives and dies not for mere prizes, nor perks, nor tenure, nor titles, nor money, but for honor, and honor alone.

>>7815615
High Brow - Everyone pops
Mid brow - 50 shdes of grey
Low brow - Finnegan's Wake

High-brow - Ulysses

Mid-brow - Gravity's Rainbow

Low-brow - Inifnite Jest

High-Brow - The Fault in Our Stars
Mid-Brow - Hypersphere
Low-Brow - some meme shit I dont care this is a shit thread

Don't forget that the Iliad covers only a little fragment of the Trojan War.

The illiad covers about 2 months?
Out of 10 years.
>>7815440

>>7815432
Jesus Christ it doesn't count as starting with the Greeks if you're this dumb.

Go spend like 5 minutes figuring out what it is you're fucking reading. Google Homeric question and quit being so dense

>high school student

Run your fingers down your chest and stomach and tell me how soft your skin is, OP

I bet you don't moisturize at all and everything still glows like a newborn baby. Where do you live?

>>7815301
Not very

>>7815287
Yea it's gateway lit for Rush fans, and irredeemable shit otherwise.

Fountainhead is bretty good.

hmm i may have to check out this wasp question shit

>>7816807
Great book to be honest

>>7816808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWKBYbX3yv4

seems p rad

porno mags always has that weird smell to it
don't know why, that is if anyone is old enough to remember them

I kinda like the smell of old books.

Anthem

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Catcher in the rye

My twisted world

>>7816459
That's just liberal feminism, there are many other feminist ideologies

Feminism is bullshit

>>7816463
Thanks, Josh.

always read chronologically.

>>7815031
No, this isn't /mu/

>>7815030
Read Gaddis chronologically, as his ideas and views mature with each book.

he would say that he's a good meme like him

he'd say he's banal

HED CUM

>/lit/ praise it
>have I been memed

wew

There's good bizarro fiction which is indeed cutting-edge, and there's a lot of crap bizarro fiction.

bizarro has run its course unfortunately

>>7816161
Book 4 will prove you wrong

>>7816161
Who is the best character in ASOIAF and why it's Jaime?

>>7816175

this. Things went downhill fast after a Storm of Swords.

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Anyone else read him? I've read quite a lot of his books now.

>>7814992
Who is this poop sloop?


I read The Old Man and the Sea for fun in middle school and haven't touched him since.

>>7815012

She's not a poop sloop, she's a semen demon. I think she's an actress.

>hipster teens or brain-dead plebs.

guess who tends to champion his works?

>>7814871

I hated 1Q84, 900 pages of absolute nothing.

I can't even share this opinion anywhere but here because I would be lynched by the MIDF.

Gifted kots, like 80pg in and feeling the dread.

Apathy.

It's not really a bad book if you ignore
>le stranger memes
before

>>7814870
So the whole draw is that he doesnt give a shit?
I sort of got that but why is it so lauded

>>7814879
The thing is mostly that the main character is despised, loathed or held in contempt by those around him simply because he doesn't care. He is so apathetic towards so much of life that he is seen as an >outsider. Later on in the book he seems to finally find some meaning in life, his conversation with the clergyman or priest contains the entire jest of the book and its outcome. Why it is so lauded I am not sure but then again I am not a particularily intelligent man.