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What book(s) will teach me about how to get a gf?
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why do you desire?
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Just read Max Stirner
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Models by Mark Manson

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Any Asian authors that /lit/ recommends?

Specifically Eastern Philosophy or WWII
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>>7822359
I recommend Masashi Kishimoto. He is a master of storytelling and everything he writes holds a tremendous amount of merit behind it.
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>>7822359
I think there's a whole section in the wiki on this desu

Also I'd just like to take a moment and praise /lit/ for having the best wiki on this site
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Kakamatato Miamano

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I'm writing a paper for the Iliad and the topic is about the justification and glorification of war portrayed in the book. Could anyone here give me some good talking points or where I might find some in the Iliad?

Topics I have so far
>The idea of Kleos justifying the act of war for Achiles
>How the spoils of war and greed can cause internal justification of war
>The acts/will of the gods seen as justification for the actions of the Greeks/Trojans in the war
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I'm not asking for anyone to write this paper for me I just want some guidance on themes I should explore more
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Bump?
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>>7816764
"Talk Shit Get Hit" - A Greek Tragedy

"The Gang Steals Someones Wife"

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Fill in the blank: Shakespeare, Nietzsche, and __________.
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>>7824348
Green, since we're naming writers in descending order of quality
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a lukewarm bath.
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I love Freddy, but he's not the second in this line of thinking.

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Hi, new to /lit/, been lurking for a while but never really got into reading so why not start now? Has anyone not read the Greeks yet? Just picked these up and I'm eager to get started and want to see if any other anons want to get a "start with the Greeks" group to read 5-10 chapters a week then we can come back here and discuss what we've read. Just a thought. I want to follow the list (will post) that /lit/ has so starting with the trojan war would be best imo, there are pdfs out there of it..what do you guys say?
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>>7824335
i hate to be the one to break it to you anon but no one here actually reads.
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>>7824344
I thought all the non-reading shitters left for /his/
I did, anyways.
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>>7824376
Some of the reading c/lit/s actually flocked to /his/ for the humanities threads.

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Do any of you fellow Anons keep a journal for writing down your deepest most angsty and soul driven thoughts? I bougth myself a tiny little journal in a bookstore last week and I've been wanting to write in it, but I think I'm trying to bring my inner /lit/ to it because...

I just can't figure out how to start it.

I'm not writing it for an audience obviously but like, I am not sure why, but I feel like I want to have a good opening for it. I don't want to just start off like
>boo hoo today i did this
Anyone else have this problem? I think I'm trying to write a journal like I would a story.

Also, where can I hide it? Any creative ideas?
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Write for yourself. If you write under the pretense of a "story" you are implicitly writing for somebody else.
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>>7820965
I've tried doing this several times before but I always end up cringing at what I wrote 1-2 months later and give up. Not because there as anything particularly wrong with what I wrote, I'm not sure why I don't like it.
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I just write whatever pops into my head. Normally I go over some things that stood out that day, like reading a good book or meeting someone neat. A lot of it tends to be about my relationships with certain people, and things that didn't happen that day but are bouncing around in my brain. When I started I tried to impress my imaginary audience with faux philosophy and big words, but I lost that eventually and now it's a really comfy experience. Don't try to recoed your whole day like a story. Release whatever's on your mind.

As for hiding, I generally put mine behind some tall books on a shelf, and hide the previous volumes by burying them in my closet.

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> Writer, who is *not* a native Spanish speaker, uses the word "quixotic" in a sentence
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I agree OP, it's quite the quixotic situation.
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>>7822530
It appears you've already done it.

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>Talking about a book
>accidentally call a female character 'he'.
>Confusion until I clarify my mistake.
>She calls it a crucial difference...
and I thought, is it? 99% of the time, does a character's gender matter at all? Ursula Le Guin was right, right?
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nothing about literature matters. it's a joke medium
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It affects the role a character will play in society, how they'll be received by others, and some elements of how they think and feel etc. But gender is not the defining characteristic in someone's personality. Think of it as a framing device, and a pretty loose one at that.
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>>7824681

>>She calls it a crucial difference...

Most of the time the ones who are really militant about identity politics mire themselves down in banalities as if they are the main arena. You know the kind when you talk to them. They hyper-politicize everything to a nauseating degree.

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Classic heroism edition
Recommendation Charts:
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/3v2oXAY.jpg
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL
Flowchart: https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg

>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg

>What are you reading?
>Who is your favorite hero in SFF?
>Which SFF girl would you want to be your "damsel?"
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>>7815288

I've read the first few Gor novels by John Norman and thoroughly enjoyed both of them.

I like reading high brow literature as much as the rest of you autists on this board but there's something so genuinely comfy and refreshing to just escape back to Gor every once in a while and sink into the lore and action-packed absurdity of it all.

A true masterpiece of a series and one I'd recommend any of you guys get into.

Start with Tarnsman of Gor though.
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>>7815312
How self contained are they? The used bookstore has several, but not in sequence. I've been thinking about picking some up when they go on sale.
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>>7815288
>What are you reading?
Re-reading The Stars my Destination.

>Who is your favorite hero in SFF?
Andrew Harlan from The End of Eternity.
That or Conan...

>Which SFF girl would you want to be your "damsel?"
I guess it's Danica Maupoissant from The Cleric Quintett (Forgotten Realms).

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Recently decided to start reading a lot more fiction rather than just watching movies so I bought a stack of books from the local used book store. The nice old man running the store loves science fiction and recommended Dune, but the others I picked out myself. I've seen the Starship Troopers movie and I heard the book was much more in depth and political (I enjoy politics). Dying Inside is about a guy who is born with the ability to read minds and it drives him crazy. Sea of Swords is from the Forgotten Realms series and I got it because I wanted to try a fantasy novel. I also read a "Drizzt" story when I was younger and I remember it being entertaining. The biggest gamble, I think, was getting Battlefield Earth. I know the movie is garbage, but the bookstore owner said that he heard the book was alright, and many consider it Hubbard's best work. I mainly got it because the opening synopsis sounded like a neat scenario and it's a fairly big book so I'll get a lot of time out of it.

Did I do well? I'm not here to impress anyone, as I mostly read philosophical work and play guitar to feed my brain. I just need some new entertainment that won't rot my brain like all these movies are starting to do. Also, which one should I read first?
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>>7824211
Read Dune and nothing else there.
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>>7824211
start with Starship Troopers or Dune
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>>7824218
Oh ok. I'll take the others outback and burn them,

The same high school teacher that assigned me blood meridian just assigned me pic related

I haven't read any post modernism, will this be a good way to prepare for the meme trilogy?

Not underage ;)
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your high school teacher has the worst taste imaginable
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>>7822026
Shut up, fag
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>>7822007
It's a good book.

But it's written by a black female, so the frog people and redpillers on here aren't going to like it.

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I'm new to this board but see that there are some aspiring writers here. Are there actually any examples of /lit/ users who have gotten published?

>inb4 "I self-published on Amazon and 3 people, probably all friends, bought my book"

Not that shit. The bar should be a little higher than that. Self-publishing only counts if the user sold 1000 or more copies.
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>>7815517
Who, in all honesty, would want their name to be associated with this place?
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yes, that one that one anon who has a scifi young adult book coming out soon from penguin

also, Tao lin

and I'm sure many of us (including myself) have been published in various mags, journals, and won competitions and so on...
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None that have really posted there work. I know for a fact there are some people in here who have been published in some lit magazines because I've met them IRL, but evidently they don't brag about it.

I've had a short story get accepted to a lit mag before, wasn't that difficult.

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According to World Socialist Web Site, Žižek is now a member of the European New Right. Welcome, Žižek

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/02/08/zize-f08.html
>The starting point of Žižek’s tirades are the events of New Year’s Eve in Cologne, which he terms an “obscene carnival of the lower classes.” The incidents in Cologne have been systematically blown out of proportion by the media in order to whip up a hysterical campaign against immigrants and Muslims. To date, there is no evidence that anything happened other than what regularly takes place in similar mass gatherings where much alcohol is involved.

>...[Žižek] repeatedly warns the readers of Der Spiegel not to be swayed by sympathy for the fate of refugees. “Even if many immigrants are more or less victims who have fled from devastated countries, this does not prevent them behaving despicably.” And, “The fact that someone is at the bottom, does not make them automatically a voice of morality and justice.”

>The assumption that “behind the vicious circle of desire, envy and hatred” (feelings he sweepingly ascribes to immigrant youth) there lies “any deeper human core of global solidarity” Žižek calls “part of a naive, humanist metaphysics.”

>He fumes against “the politically correct liberal left,” which is mobilizing its resources to downplay the incident in Cologne, and refers to “efforts to enlighten immigrants” as “breathtaking stupidity.” They did not behave out of ignorance in Cologne, but “because they want to violate our sensitivities.”

>Following one of his idols, the French philosopher and Maoist Alain Badiou, Žižek divides mankind into “three kinds of subjects”–a “Western, ‘civilized, bourgeois, liberal-democratic subject”; “those who do not belong to the West and who are obsessed by their longing for the West”; and finally, “those fascistic nihilists whose envy of the West is transformed into a deadly self-destructive hatred.”

>The colonialist model of this scheme is obvious. On one side, the civilized West and the local elites who are obsessed with the “longing for the West”; on the other side, the barbarian savages whom the West must bring under control in cooperation with the local elites—the “white man’s burden”, as it was called by Rudyard Kipling. Under the banner of such conceptions, the imperialist powers have committed unspeakable crimes in the past 150 years and massacred millions of people.

>Žižek’s practical conclusions go exactly in this direction, as he explained in more detail in his interview with Die Welt. They would garner him applause at any Pegida rally and qualify him for membership in the far-right Alternative for Germany.
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>>7805102
/lit/ - literature
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>“Europe needs to demand of the incoming Muslims that they respect European values,” he says, and, “Europe cannot just open its borders, as some on the left demand out of a feeling of guilt.” Instead, “we” must ensure “that the streams of refugees flow in an orderly fashion,” and set up “reception centres in the countries bordering Syria, but also in Libya.” This, he insists, must be done “with the military.” In other words, Žižek wants to send European troops to Libya, Jordan, Lebanon and other states to imprison refugees there.

>Žižek explicitly defends European capitalism with its millions of unemployed and its dramatic inequality. “I do not want to bad-mouth capitalism in principle,” he says. “The European model” is “threatened by two types of capitalism, both undemocratic” –by the “fundamentalist market radicalism of the American model” and by “Asiatic-authoritarian capitalism, as practiced mainly in China.” But “Europe’s capitalism,” on the other hand, has “something to offer to the world.”

>Racist incitement against refugees, the demonization of the “lower classes,” the closing of borders, the defence of one’s “own” capitalism against its international rivals and a return to militarism—this is the programme of the new right, which Žižek advocates here.

>This is no surprise for the World Socialist Web Site. We have warned for years that the policy of the pseudo left represents the interests of more affluent layers of the middle classes and is directed against the interests of the working class. They have replaced the historical materialist method of Marxism with the subjective, irrational theories of postmodernism and the class struggle with various forms of identity politics, which focus on issues of race and sexual orientation.

>Five years ago, we wrote on the occasion of an appearance by Žižek in New York:

>“Zizek is an outgrowth of a reactionary anti-Marxist and anti-materialist tradition that descends from the irrationalism of Schelling, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche and Heidegger. He eclectically draws on the neo-Nietzschean and neo-Heideggerian thought of 1960s French post-structuralism.

>Zizek, “as with the post-structuralists and the post-Maoists, is a political opportunist, though crasser and ruder. Despite all the radical-sounding bluster he pumps off, when it comes down to real politics, not the political phantoms in his brain, his positions end up serving interests that are completely hostile to the international working class and to genuine socialism.”

>The sharp social polarisation accompanying the intensification of the crisis of capitalism forces Žižek and his ilk to show their true colours. They can no longer hide their right-wing politics behind pseudo-left phraseology. From that standpoint, Žižek’s transformation from an ideologist of the pseudo-left to an open right-winger is an unmistakeable sign that fierce class battles are ahead.
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>>7805102
this just in, socialist movements are prone to fracturing and denunciations

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I took the liberty of trying out some Hemingway, but was not impressed. The visuals were there, but the content was too crude and unemotional for someone these days to be reading. This can be argued about most of the classic authors. The old rules no longer apply. Hemingway barely passes for a modern man today. What did this man contribute to literature? Sure, he's less of an anachronism than Dickens, but at least Twain inspired me to think.
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>>7824430
Nice spooks there, brah.
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>>7824437
>Not 'Well spooked, my property'

Can't meme with the best? Then 404 like the rest

You're right though, unspook yourself OP
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>>7824437
I know my statement was vague, but this is not about anything in particular, but what this man was about. He's more of a symbol than anything. So far, I've learned nothing from him. Maybe that's why he shot himself. How long can you regurgitate memes of manhood without exploring the implications of behavior? Hemingway seems like he was an empty man.

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Should art soothe or reduce suffering?

Or, for clarity: should art, and in specific literature, confront reality and better it, or is only for comforting persons who read it?
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>>7822800
A piece's objective should be determined by its creator.
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Confronting reality and 'making it better' is escapism
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>>7822994
sure, but take for instance a city where "everything is bad": could someone write something without addressing such problems? the city is the world

>>7823025
how so?

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