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can someone explain postmodernism to me?
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>>7821950
yes
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>>7821954
who?
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so what if like there was no truth dude? no objective value?? so this shit i just did (check out the bowl) is as good as the mona lisa?

hahahah bro, what if i converted that shit i just did into a BOOK, and sold COPIES of it. it kind of looks like a rocket so ill make that a central theme.

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Hey /lit/

Do you think it's a retarded idea, in 2016, to quit a secure but demanding full-time job and work part-time in a small town in order to dedicate yourself to your writing?

I feel like it's impossible to write anything worthwhile when I'm dedicating most of my time, energy and focus to a job that sucks. But also the current publishing climate makes me feel like I'd be setting myself up for a big fall should I decide to go all out and dedicate my life (essentially) to writing.
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>>7837194
You'll just end up becoming Stephen King.
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your life will suck regardless. just do what you love. if what you love is money then keep your job
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>>7837195
>you'll just end up becoming a very successful writer

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Any psychonaut in /lit/?
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>>7834889
DUDE
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>>7834895
dude
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what is "in"?

/pol/ told me that the Frankfurt School is made up of evil communist Jews trying to control the world. I just realized I'm reading a book by one of those Jews. Should I stop reading it on principal?
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>>7833412
You'd be an idiot to do so. That's a great book.

Reading Sane Society now, also good.
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>>7833412
>principal
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>>7833412
>/pol/ told me
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This is honestly the most /lit/ book I've ever read.
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hell the frick yeah, man, HB is the greatest.
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The list in the back of the book is nice but Bloom's writing is completely worthless. He can't go two sentences without referencing a different book or author from the one he's talking about and as a result he says nothing meaningful about anything. He's too wrapped up in his own mode of thinking to properly articulate what it is he's thinking.
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>>7832130
Huh, I'm not getting that impression at all. I know what you're saying, he certainly pulls references all over the place, but I think he manages to stay coherent.
>The list in the back of the book is nice
I don't really agree with that either, imo a list without considerable justification is totally worthless.

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>tfw you realise it is all one and you're it
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Tag, you're it
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>mfw I realise 'one' is an external concept
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>>7822046
Yes anon, you are it, One. But only you, nobody else. You are in fact the world and the rest of us, just as real as you, are inside of you. In all your orifices. With our dicks.

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Fuck this book so fucking hard! This is the driest (no pun intended), most lifeless fucking thing I've ever tried to read. I can't even get more than five five pages without having to go back and reread because I suddenly realized my eyes have just been going over the words without absorbing any of this because my brains busy thinking about more interesting shit, like if i should do the laundry.

Stereo instructions have more gripping writing. Don't even get me started on the constant unnecessary inner dialogues that fill 60% of the book, 90% of which is completely unnecessary. Yes, sometimes we need to know what the characters are thinking, most of the time we don't need two pages of the characters detailed thoughts telling us what we can infer on our own.

How is this considered a Sci-Fi classic?
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Please, no girls allowed on /lit/.
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Because sci-fi is a shitty genre.
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>>7832362
>>7832364
>>7832368

Nu-/lit/ in a nutshell.

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Where do I start with this French fuck? I'm already loosely familiar (the Panopticon, specifically, which I know is from "Discipline and Punish) but he's ludicrously hard to understand and he's got a lot bigger of a body of work than I anticipated.

Where on the sides of this deep end is there a diving board? "The Order of Things"?
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order of things and archaelogy of knowledge are considering minor although he does lay out the whole power/knowledge shit in those, but i recommend history of sexuality volume one that's where he blows everything u thought u know about fags, religion and science the fuck out, and also explains u the power/knowledge too
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Always read Foucault chronologically
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inb4 shitposting
also noooooooo not order of things. honestly I'd recommend some secondary literature, maybe the Foucault reader. personally I'd say he's one thinker where the dense af prose is unwarranted and you can definitely wet your feet in clearer presentations of his ideas.

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looking for more text like this

How do we see?

The act of seeing is realized progressively. At the instance of seeing, light clusters called photons travel from the object to the eye and pass through the eye lens where they are refracted and focused on the retina at the back of the eye. Here rays are turned into electrical signals, and then transmitted by neurons to the center of vision, at the back of the brain. The act of seeing actually takes place in this center in the brain. All the images we view in our lives, and all the events we experience, are actually experienced in this tiny and dark place. Both the transcript you are now reading ,and the boundless landscape you see when you gaze to the horizon, actually fit into this place of a few cubic centimeters. Now let us reconsider this information more carefully. When we say we 'see', we actually see the effect the rays reaching our eyes form in our brain by being converted into electrical signal, when we say, we see, we actual view the electrical signals in our brain. By the way, there is another point that has to be kept in mind. The brain is sealed to light and its interior is absolutely dark. Therefore it is never possible for the brain to contact with light itself. We can explain this interesting situation with an example. Let us suppose that in front of us there is a burning candle and we view its light. During this period when we view the candles light the inside of our skull and brain are in absolute darkness, the light of the candle never illuminates our brain and our center of vision. However, we watch a colorful and bright world inside our dark brain. The same situation applies to all our other senses, sound, touch taste and smell are all perceived in the brain as electrical signals. Therefore our brains throughout our lives do not confront the original of the matter existing outside us, but rather an electrical copy of it formed inside our brain.
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op here

i kind of thought of it as esoteric neurology

cant put my finger on it
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>>7833763
i wish all traps looked this passable
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INELUCTABLE MODALITY OF THE VISIBLE: AT LEAST THAT IF NO MORE, thought through my eyes. Signatures of all things I am here to read, seaspawn and seawrack, the nearing tide, that rusty boot. Snotgreen, bluesilver, rust: coloured signs. Limits of the diaphane. But he adds: in bodies. Then he was aware of them bodies before of them coloured. How? By knocking his sconce against them, sure. Go easy. Bald he was and a millionaire, maestro di color che sanno. Limit of the diaphane in. Why in? Diaphane, adiaphane. If you can put your five fingers through it, it is a gate, if not a door. Shut your eyes and see.
Stephen closed his eyes to hear his boots crush crackling wrack and shells. You are walking through it howsomever. I am, a stride at a time. A very short space of time through very short times of space. Five, six: the nacheinander. Exactly: and that is the ineluctable modality of the audible. Open your eyes. No. Jesus! If I fell over a cliff that beetles o'er his base, fell through the nebeneinander ineluctably. I am getting on nicely in the dark. My ash sword hangs at my side. Tap with it: they do. My two feet in his boots are at the end of his legs, nebeneinander. Sounds solid: made by the mallet of Los Demiurgos. Am I walking into eternity along Sandymount strand? Crush, crack, crick, crick. Wild sea money. Dominie Deasy kens them a'.

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Why are you still slaves of the industrial-technological society?
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>>7831609
So are you, dickhead.
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>>7831609
For majority of us it's entirely unavoidable. Still, I like to read Zerzan and Kaczynski for my fundamentalism fix.
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bread + circuses > freedom

Cool rare pictures of authors. No DFW, James Joyce or Pynchon preferably.
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More PKD.
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>Make thread
>Ban memes
>Expect replies
Kek
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can I post a picture of myself?

ITT: your worst book ideas
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>>describes book from lit canon
Lulz ensured!
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>>7830261
Secret agent goes to a hotel to find a person with secret documents holding government secrets. He has to go through all the different leads as he searches different rooms interrogates people talks to informants and fellow agents and engages in intense espionage action. The first chapter opens with him poisoning an old woman's soup. From there it gets more intricate as we realize that his motives might not be so noble. The major sub plot in the novel revolves around him chasing his rival/arch nemesis who works for another organization. About halfway through the book a showdown occurs on the roof that flips the tables and it's a big twist because now we know that both sides have double agents in their midst and a lot of the information being exchanged is completely bogus. But this is obvious to anyone reading closely.
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All my ideas are my worst.

All the books I actually wrote:

A novella adaptation of a series of dreams I had about a interdimensional travelling scythian enaree.

A shitty autobiography-ish thing.

A novella about a complete idiot whose lover is shot by police who subsequently falls in and then out with an anarchist club before stumbling into a plot involving a stolen AI.

Books I haven't written:

Immortal people living in a VR environment and the bizarre practices and culture they've developed from having so much free time. Side plot about the flesh and blood people who make it possible and the outside world's socioeconomics and stuff.

Some british guy and a dystopia... something about a mega-tsunami? I don't really remember.

Book of Dragons: A collection of short stories from the perspectives of famous mythological dragons, focusing on themes of alienation, the dubious value of inner strength without community or companionship, violence, and free choice and conditioning.

What should I read before I start the Divine Comedy? Which translation best suits a first time reader? Also, requesting that infographic of all the different translations.
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>>7834799
Play Dante's Inferno.

I'm not even meming, you'll gain a decent amount of foundational knowledge if you can get past the horrible gameplay mechanics
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>>7834812

thanks boss

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Is it possible to make your screen as pleasant to look at as a piece of paper?
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>>7834736
Well shit, that's a shame. Probably the saddest thing in the world to be honest.
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>>7834744
Not if you're a true dead tree enthusiast.

Kindlefuckers get burnt.
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>>7834751
The thing is, trees are more expensive as a resource than electricity.

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I'm going to read infinite jest, but I feel I need to prepare for it. What should I do before and as I read the book? Should I annotate so I don't get confused or just read it through? any recommending reading before I start?
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are you fucking retarded
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Don't believe the hype OP. IJ is NOT difficult at all. People who say it's overly-intellectual, pretentious, too difficult, boring, etc are either literally retarded or haven't read it. Just have a basic understanding of French (or just use Google Translate, I guess) and you'll be fine. You'll finish it between a couple of day and two weeks depending on how much free time you have and your level of autism.

That being said I wouldn't recommend this as your first DFW work. The Pale King or Brief Interviews with Hideous Men (or even A Supposedly Fun Thing, I guess) are easier ways to get into his work.

Have fun.
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>>7834196
>What should I do before and as I read the book?
Grow up in middle class america. Thats literally all you need.

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