Holden's question "Where do the ducks in central park go?" is a typical picaresque device used as a sort of touchstone/litmus test/barometer for the personality that the picaro uses to gauge the personality/sociableness/temperament of the characters that he is interacting with.
Interesting no? I love this book.
and people wonder why literature is dead...
reddit general?
>>7819900
>Holden's question "Where do the ducks in central park go?" is a typical picaresque device used as a sort of touchstone/litmus test/barometer for the personality that the picaro uses to gauge the personality/sociableness/temperament of the characters that he is interacting with.
>Holden stabs the ducks
wat?
>anon, you are a writer why don't you write me something for my birthday? :D
>>7819787
God I wish people asked me this.
>>7819787
roses are red
violets are blue
i wanted to be a botanist
and fuck literature
>telling people that you write
He ends his short treatise with an appeal to ART as a means of achieving poiesis via "revealing." But who takes the fine arts seriously today? If art can no longer save us from our own enframing, are we condemned to forever be a standing-reserve?
Nobody ever cared about the fine arts
dourownhomework.midi
Heidegger does not appeal to fine art only.
His definition of art is actually Rock solid.
Go read his essay in 'poetry language thought' about what a work of art means.
It both smashes most modern art, and leaves a space for good modern art. Heidegger my nigger
What your favorite Shakespearean performances? I really enjoy BBC Radio productions. What are your definitive versions? Of any Shakespearean play?
I'm unfamiliar with radio productions and I dislike modern staging and performances.
My list:
Magee as Lear.
Heston as Antony.
Lapotaire as Cleopatra.
Burton as Petruchio and Taylor as Katharina.
Branagh as Hamlet (no error there).
Zefferelli's casting is almost always correct.
I've never seen a good rendering of Midsummer Night's Dream.
Initially I had no patience for Patrick Magee in the role of Lear, and hated Charlton Heston in the role of Antony... I thought Heston lacked dignity and clout, and couldn't fathom the credibility he was accorded... but really that was the point.
Branagh's Hamlet initially seemed too modern, too comfortable, and too clownish, too much like Bart Simpson as Hamlet...but I think he really nailed it. It's too light, but his acting does convey someone who is deeply meditative, who manages to graft a notion onto others.
Pacino as Shylock was quite good, but the rest of the actors were seemingly cast for their non-descript nature in order to make Pacino seem more like the lead of the play.
The direction also didn't grab me, there are tantalizing views, but there is no smooth form of camera movement through the landscape or architecture, it's shot almost like a cop drama with people just getting in each other's faces, so it doesn't actually convey the highly formal nature of the setting.
>Work
>Get home to cramped apartment
>Kids running around outside because summer
>Next door neighbors playing music, shouting
>Kids bumping into furniture nextdoor until midnight
>Put on headphones and attempt to zone out and write
Do you have an ideal type of writing location/time/mental state? Share them.
>>7819069
How about you discipline your children? What the fuck man, you shouldn't have to leave your own house just to get some peace and quiet.
>>7819087
I'm single. I have no kids.
>>7819069
I feel ya OP, in summer there are always insolent little fucks running around the road screaming, I just yell out the window at them and they don't come running past the house again for the rest of the day. Are there any nice libraries in your area? Guaranteed quiet and nice to be in as long as the actual library has a nice working environment.
Books that have this theme? Fiction or Non-Fiction
>>7819054
ayn rand
prince
>>7819463
>>>/discorsi/
Prince is such a plebby recommendation in comparison.
What books are essential spookwave?
>>7818716
*tips fedora* etc
>>7818719
that's a big book
>>7818725
>2016
>baneposting
Where do I start with Lacan?
Non French speaker, have read a bit of Zizek and feel interested in Lacan, but have heard that his introduction is insubstantial. Any recommendations or maze charts?
>>7818712
Here you go:
http://sci-hub.io/doi/10.2307/20099889
But to understand Lacan you have to read some foucault, freud, and zizek. And to get zizek you have to read hegal. Have fun.
>>7818712
fucking policenauts
I need to finish it
Start with the Seminars. Move on to Ecrits. Also check out Lacanian Ink.
It always seems the discussion on russian literature ends with the stalinist era, Kharms maybe named last. Has "russian literature" as a distinct school disappeared? Are there any interesting russian authors in the post-war period? I only know about pic related, the Strugatskys and that one New Right dude.
Check the archive. Plenty of names to look into.
Bayan Shiryanov, I tell you.
>>7818589
I was hoping this could lead to an edifying discussion as well as pushing one meta thread more out of page 10, hence the question of whether the idea of a "russian school" is still viable.
Who here begins a writing session warming up, like just writing something unrelated to what you're working on, getting in the mood, etc.? Who here just jumps right in?
It's about halfway through writing something that I start to feel a groove.
I just stare at blank paper until I hate myself, write something bad, give up. done for the day.
>>7818549
/thread/
I've always jumped right in, but the idea of a warm up is intriguing. The closest I get is reading over my work from the previous day--it helps me get into a consistent mindset for whatever it is I'm working on, especially if it's a longer piece.
While you get no attention from publishers or dat qt in starbucks that you're too afraid to talk to, pic / linkrelated makes millions.
https://wikileaks.org/sony/docs/03_03/Mktrsch/Market%20Research/Scripts/Sausage%20Party.pdf
Tell me more about art being judged objectively.
>>7818439
Movie looks funny as fuck, basically sour grapes the post.
>>7818439
>get's
>open's
>give's
TRIGGERED
>>7818439
No one who isn't a naive child or an autist thinks art is valued by the publishing or entertainment industries. There is an objective judgement when it comes to entertainment, and that's a judgement of how profitable it's predicted to be.
Is this book good?
A friend told me the author is the Brazilian James Joyce and it got me curious.
Brazilian lit thread, I suppose.
>>7818365
When I found out it wasnt about the Canudos campaign i dropped it. But yeah its on all kinds of lists, so take that for what you will.
>>7818365
It's a fair comparison; James Joyce was a heavy influence on Guimarães Rosa writing.
It also shares a lot of similarities to Ulysses:
To read Ulysses, it's nice to have read the Odyssey before, and be familiar with Dublin's microcosm.
Analogously, it's nice to have read Faust before diving into GSV, and to be familiar with the "sertão" and its mystique.
>>7818425
I forgot to add that reading Guimarães short story book "Sagarana" is a good way of familiarizing yourself with the sertão and what it means for Guimarães Rosa.
Good luck if you're going for it, it's a tough but extremely rewarding read.
>>7818362
This is just from my journal, if you can read the scrawl. Don't try and date severely unstable suicide cases, they will string you on like each day is a pearl.
>>7818389
What does /lit/ think of the Qur'an?
I'm redpilled, so I don't know anything about it and despise it more than anything else
I've been trying to get my hands on a copy for a while now. Not really sure where to get a good print from.
I have an autographed copy from DFW. My favorite part is where Kmart knockoff Gobot Jesus fucks his underage daughter.
>It is the same in literature as in life. Wherever one goes one immediately comes upon the incorrigible mob of humanity. It exists everywhere in legions; crowding, soiling everything, like flies in summer. Hence the numberless bad books, those rank weeds of literature which extract nourishment from the corn and choke it.
>They monopolise the time, money, and attention which really belong to good books and their noble aims; they are written merely with a view to making money or procuring places. They are not only useless, but they do positive harm. Nine-tenths of the whole of our present literature aims solely at taking a few shillings out of the public’s pocket, and to accomplish this, author, publisher, and reviewer have joined forces.
>mfw he's still right today
>what is capitalism
>>7817896
"The truth [...] is that to the dilettante the thing is the end, while to the professional as such it is the means; and only he who is directly interested in a thing, and occupies himself with it from love of it, will pursue it with entire seriousness. It is from such as these, and not from wage-earners, that the greatest things have always come."
Schopes was such a bro.
>>7817899
What? Even if a socialist government decided to distribute literature in accordance with demand, it would still be subject to the tastes of the masses. The only way is to force people to only read certain "high art", and evade demand all together. In that case the quote would make no sense.
Stop making "clever" edgy leftist comments and think before you post kiddo.