Hey /lit/, How do I find my way into Lacan?
by becoming a postmodern ghoul whose capabilities for critical and original thought have athropied, and after having lost all preference for lucidly expressed ideas
>>7825969
Hi,
It's a good idea to know Freud well before actually reading him. But is that your question, or do you want to know a kind of reading order of his work?
>>7825997
Hey. Actually both. What is good to know before reading him and how I should approach his own works. Thanks.
I think this is the correct board for this, does anyone know of a place in NYC where I can see Midsummer's night dream preformed, and get really drunk and yell at the cast without getting kicked out?
I want the true experience like Shakespeare intended it
>>7842997
I forgot if "Shakespeare in the park" was still a thing but that's probably as close as you'll get. Even then, you'd probably be asked to leave.
>>7843032
It is, but they have actual famous people there doing the acting.
In Midsummer's the cast even heckles the play within the play. It's annoying when just because something is old we have to respect it so much we take the fun out of it
Can we,go together on a date?
Which edition of Finnegans Wake should I get?
and why has it not been published by Everyman's Library???
bump, you fucking plebants
Oxford World's Classics
Now fuck off.
delete this you faggot
Just a quick inquiry here /lit/, how many of you are bilingual? What do you speak? How did you learn? I've decided to start learning how to read, write and speak Polish since it is where my family is from. Can anyone on here attest to its difficulty?
http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/
I'm bilingual in French and English because Québécois, I've spoken both since I was born. My spoken and written French are not great these days due to lack of practice but I can still read more or less anything in French.
Can't attest to Polish, but I'm learning Russian which has some similarities I'm told. After the initial struggle of memorizing how the different grammatical endings work and learning the prepositions and such the language became relatively easy to pick up on, due to those same formal rules. You almost always know what type of word it is based on its ending which makes reading unfamiliar texts a lot easier.
I think these rules, like noun/adjective inflection, verb conjugation and aspect are true of Polish as well.
Don't learn a language for sentimentality's sake.
Unless you're going to live in Poland some day, learn a language you could use almost every day.
oh shit I just realised
is the Metamorphosis about becoming a NEET?
>>7842155
yes OP, a hundred year old novel is about a lifestyle that was shat out by modern society
That directly contradicts the text. Gregor gets up every morning at 5 am to provide for his entire family—total opposite of a NEET.
The common interpretation is that his transformation into an insect is a metaphorical mirroring of industrial society's transformation of him into a flywheel in a vast, impersonal machine...
this is why it's one of my least favorite of his stories.. too pat
>>7842192
yeah he wakes up every morning to provide for his family and then one morning simply stops. his family are unsympathetic and disgusted with him.
/s p e c u l a t i v e r e a l i s m g e n e r a l/
How do you guys feel about the hippest philosophy to grace the web since Reign The Conquerer, (aside from Time Cube, Icycalm, and REI), i. e., Speculative Realism? Truly it seems Foucault was right -- this will be a Deleuzean century...
Personally, I've read Deleuze in the past and found him intriguing in his philosophical works but somewhat unintelligible in Capitalism & Schizophrenia. Nevertheless, as a schizophrenic, I have felt drawn to his works and they have resonated deeply within me. Definitely both a scientific and psychedelic outlook which I can appreciate and enjoy.
Following that, I famialirized myself with Guatarri and Lacan (already somewhat proficient in Freud from a course on psychoanalysis); Ironically, however, I am currently with a Jungian therapist -- kek.
Anyway, I have since moved on to De Landa and Land and am now attempting to re-read Capitalism & Schizophrenia. But what should I read next? Brassier? I've tried Negarestani but I guess he's never gonna come out with a new book...
Is the Horror of Philosophy a meme trilogy? I heard it was namedropped by the True Detective anti-natalist guy.
Is it realistic to hope to learn about non-analytic or analytic/continental fusions in college? Where would I apply?
Finally, how do I become a full BwO? I feel somewhat cancerous. My mind accumulates too many toxins. Too many atypical antipsychotics. Not enough psychedelic medicine. I wish I could write in the spirit of Deleuze but I fear it would take me decades to get read up on the subject matter enough to comment on it. This would be cool if I could be a NEET forever but my parents want me to be a wageslave. Guess I'll just work all day and buy pretty books but always be too tired to read them.
brb, killin myself, fampai
>>7841903
>REI
You mean that tripfag autist who types in all caps?
>>7841903
Have you heard about a Journal called: "Collapse"? It is meant to be bretty good at collecting Speculative Realism and OOO related essays and works.
Your pretty late to the Deluze game anyway; Zizek is busy rubbing his dirty Slav balls over undialectical heretics and Pomo nihilists.
He did a very good essay on OOO
>http://mariborchan.si/text/articles/slavoj-zizek/objects-objects-everywhere/
this is thé most autistic thread I've seen in a while
What of her books should I read first? I'd like to at least understand her philosophy, even if I don't agree with it. Also, general Ayn Rand thread.
objectivism=follow your self-interests.
flaws: following your self-interests without regard to the others around you turns you into a complete and utter sociopath, paving way for corporate systems of control (where power ia amassed and control by the few, making it oligarchical). it also creates a competitive system where everyone is beating the shit out of each other to get to the top, completely disregarding a cooperative system where people work together to accomplish goals and aims.
these are but a few glaring issues with her philosophy.
she was an evil evil woman.
>>7841700
fountainhead first
Any Herman Hesse fans here? This one's my favorite of his but i also enjoyed Demian, and Gertrude.
>>7841568
I've read Beneath the Wheel and Rosshalde, both when I was in my late teens. I don't remember either in too much detail as far as plot or anything goes, but I remember both reading experiences as enlightening/calming/uplifting/rich/etc. I wish I'd read more of him around that age and I wish I had the drive to read more of him now. I hope to go back to his stuff someday.
>>7841608
>enlightening/calming/uplifting/rich/etc.
Same. you should definitely check out Narcissus and Goldmund then. Some kind of meditation on the meaning of the "virtuous life", not that i usually care about that sort of thing unironically but for some reason it resonated quite a bit.
yay someone who actually read the good hesse stuff instead of shitposting based on siddhartha
read the glass bead game senpai it's gucci
>Chapter 11/Fasuto Apologia
The fuck did I just read?
>>7841344
The eleventh chapter of a shitty book.
it's obviously a misspelling of "fausto," and pynchon was writing a defense (or "apology") of the character of "faust"
I hated the way Fausto's section was written but the imagery of the chapter was fun. Dude symbolism lmao. BTW V. is just desire and all of Pynchon is just determinism illustrated. Fite me IRL
Im sure you've come across a book that just wasn't what you expected. Do you guys just power through it and finish or just stop reading?
Pic related.
I feel you on that one. I ended up powering though Neuromancer just to get it out of my mind.
>>7841187
Neuromancer wasn't what I expected, but I didn't power read it, nor drop it. I just read it bit by bit over the course of a week, taking notes of interesting techie culture that Gibson collated so poetically.
>>7841187
nick land loves neuromancer. the dude cites it in almost all his work.
hey /lit/
where do you steal your books from
my mom
the fuCKING STUPID BITCH KEEPS INVITING ME OVER TO HER HOUSE
NOT MY FAULT IF HER DICKENS BOOKS GO "MISSING"
I THINK I'LL TAKE SOME TETLEY'S DECAF GREEN TEA TOO, BITCH! JUST STUFF THAT SHIT IN MY POCKET
OH WHAT'S THAT, I CAN HAVE SOME ORANGE JUICE? YOU DON'T "MIND?" GREAT, I'LL HAVE FIVE GLASSES
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING STUPID WHORE!!!
pirate bay
>>7841200
thanks anon, that made me laugh
Is this guy worth reading or is he only famous because he is "le harakiri man"
He is a great writer.
Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters is also one of the best films ever made.
How does Confessions of a Mask compare to other memoirs of the same vein?
>>7841001
He's rad af, read The Sea of Fertility
Is the seemingly endless search for something, anything... worthwhile in the end?
Does all of the constant stabbing pain, hunger and torment pay off, or is it all for nothing?
Why choose to keep your integrity but lose all else in this world and still push on?
Do the ''normies'', as you call them, win?
The happy. The blissfully ignorant, or as the internet likes to call them ''blue pilled''...
Do they ultimately perform better on the grand stage that is this frail existence?
They reproduce, they are happy, they produce, they spend, they consume, they regurgitate...
Only now do I begin to understand what that one lone man meant when he referred to this as ''The Gay Science''... Are the ''over thinkers'' for lack of a better phrase, an anomaly? An error that will be erased eventually? Biologically faulty...
What do you make of it all?
One day you will experience the interconnectedness of all things and realize that you are only a transient part of an eternal and necessary whole.
>>7840697
I would like that comment much more if you used the world ''Hole'' instead... Seems more fitting
>>7840697
Just to add on. You will need to prepare for this experience by fasting, praying, and purging all cynical Jewish-Marxist literature from your bookcase. I don't fear death anymore.
>always say that ignorance is bliss, and that the secret to happiness is ignorance
>friend, Nietzche lover, disagrees completely. He always says that he can't stand people who think that
>in his opinion, the meaning of life is to gather as much knowledge as you can, and leave a legacy after death
>he's great at arguing, everyone knows that. He never gives up on an argument without "winning"
>we start arguing wether my theories are right or not
>one hour later, he gets angry and starts blabbing shit about how it's stupid to be ignorant
>he gives up
Up to this day, he still tries to convince me of his ideas. He never managed to.
This is a great feeling
>>7840620
>I'm stupid and proud of it
Good luck with that buddy.
>>7840620
>the secret to happiness is to be a complete idiot
>the meaning of life is to be a prententious sophist
You're both retarded. Just read what Socrates said - as reported by Plato - about knowledge.
>>7840620
What is a great feeling? Not being convinced?
hey /lit/
I need some help understanding Wittgenstein's philosophy of mathematics (if it's even possible for anyone other than Wittgenstein to do so).
I tried asking /sci/ first, but was directed here.
I've not been able to find much accessible material on the subject and I am woefully uneducated, so I need help from you to translate the technical language into lay terms.
Thanks in advance.
Pasting this from my identical thread on /his/ because it may be relevant:
It might help if I explain why I'm asking. Recently I was introduced to the philosophy of mathematics when a family member asked me if I thought numbers were "real" or not. It seemed like a strange thing to ask and my initial reaction was that it didn't make sense as a question. I can't explain why I feel that way, though, because of the huge gaps in my knowledge. The only way I could try to describe what I felt was by saying something like "2 + 2 = 4 doesn't describe a relationship between actual objects, but it's more like a rule".
Not being able to understand my own intuition was very frustrating as you can imagine, but I wasn't able to find much by googling because I don't know the terms. All I found was that Wittgenstein believed something vaguely similar, but when I tried to read his work, I couldn't understand it. That brings me here.
>>7840298
I know Ray Monk did his thesis on Wittgenstein's mathematics. No clue where to find it though. The Duty of Genius gives a pretty soft and readable introduction anyway.
I think Wittgenstein was not that much clear about what he thought when he was writing those enigmatic lines in the tractatus. My former logic professor was not able to give a lot of clue about how the mathematical formalism used in the tractatus worked. Surely he was not mistaking us when saying that only someone who already had those thoughts could understand them.
>>7840371
same poster as >>7840404
Read the Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy of Bertrand Russell if you are interested in math philosophy. It is a bit dense (for me at least) but gives a very good and intuitive introduction.
Witt math philosophy started with similar views and then departed from it.