Is it worth it? I feel like writing on PC turns me into an ''editing writer''.
>>7861052
Writing on a PC makes my writing sound schizophrenic. When I write on paper it looks like an entirely different person writing. Never tried a typewriter
the maintenance isn't worth it
are instantgrams literature?
Just stop.
No. They can be art, and they may contain aspects of literature, or aspects of poetry (or whole poems), but they themselves are not literature.
For sure they are. That's why it was so cringey when /lit/ wrote a book. 4chan is already alternative literature, you idiot fucks.
books about rich guys and gals living the life.
After reading Gatsby, I wanna read about hot models living a superficial rich life full of drugs and women and shit
My diary T B H
>>7860945
who is this semen demon?
the count of monte cristo
Usually Pynchon doesn't do anything strait, it is always ironic.
So Inherent Vice nearly identical in a lot of ways to The Long Goodbye, screwball crime thrillers, west coast crime books except perhaps a post-modern version of it and a spoof.
I felt that Vineland was very much a spoof of northwest books like Kesey and Sometimes a Great Notion.
Mason & Dixon includes many different genres throughout.
But I'm confused as to what Bleeding Edge is doing? It is kind of detective stuff, and reminds me a lot of col49, but is it a send up of early 2000s novels or something? (I wouldn't know b/c I don't really read that kind of thing)
Also, what kind of genre/form would you like to see Pynchon do next?
It's Pynchon's cyberpunk book. Check out Gibson and Stephenson if you want to get what he's playing with. Probably has to do with why I liked this one even more than his others.
I'd like to see Pynchon do a Le Carre-ish spy novel. He has that one short story (which was later turned into a chapter of V.) but I want him to go farther.
It reminds me a little of GTA meets Gibson's Blue Ant books.
I don't think "Pynchon doesn't do anything straight" is accurate though. V, L49, GR are all pretty much their own things.
>>7861375
V is primarily a satire of the beats imo
Dear /lit/,
Is there a good way to find out if a book is readable by itself?
i.e. even if it's part of a series, by the final page it will have a reached some sort of story "conclusion"?
>>7860648
Not without doing alot of reading, which would be better spent just reading the whole series.
Are you asking for Hobb?
Start at Farseer if you're looking to read her for a longer period at time and like to follow one POV, or if you only want to read a single series of her and want multiple POV read Liveship Traders. Everything else comes afterwards.
>>7860680
it was prompted by Hobb, but I mean in general
I've just finished Ship of Magic, but I can't think of a single thing that concludes by the end of that book.
I finished Ancillary Justice before that, which did at least wrap up a little bit by the end (even though it's obviously lining up the 2nd book)
How can you differentiate pleb fiction to patrician fiction? I'm a noob to reading, so far read some obvious fedoracore things like Stephen King's It, Long Walk, Hellbound Heart, Battle Royale and American Psycho. What prevents any of these of being held with any value amongst /lit/ elitists?
I'd just try to enjoy your books. Something most people on /lit/ never do.
>>7860640
>pleb
>patrician
>noob
>fedoracore
This really gets in the way of any kind of real discussion of whatever you might be getting at. It also suggests that there's not really anything worth getting at with this distinction. tldr: use your own thoughts and words OP
>>7860640
American Psycho is beloved by a certain section of the site for reasons I can't fathom. I think The Hellbound Heart is the best book you listed, edginess and movie tie-ins notwithstanding.
If you are really new to reading, you need to start with a canon, like the modern library non-voted lists, the Harvard classics or blooms canon. As you read more the difference between literary fiction and pulp becomes profound, and eventually you begin to explore literature based on your own taste and enjoyment as >>7860676 says.
Recommend me a good introduction to greek mythology
Mythology
Christian rites
>>7860114
Bulfinch's Guide. It's pretty massive, but only the first section is Greek, then the last 2/3 covers Egyptian, Norse and other European stuff.
Every story is broken down and it's easy to go back and reference when you need to. He also ties in poetry for each myth so you can see how it gets used symbolically.
what would Melville's political views be described as today?
>>7859838
Paul mccartney really is getting old huh
>>7859860
what was the point of posting this?
bump I need help /lit/
Hello /lit/, I'm starting to get interested in Deconstruction and would like some recommendations on where to begin.
I only took a handful of literature courses while in college, so I was never formally introduced to the technique.
So, which books, essays, etc. would you recommend for someone who is just starting out?
>inb4 "Derrida is incomprehensible"
>>7859822
the method is to look for what is socially constructed and attack the margins of the construction...the barriers, lines, boundaries, binaries that fall apart under closer examination.
An easy to understand example from the 90s: Ann Ducile "Black Barbie and the Deep Play of Difference" easy to find online.
>>7859829
Thanks.
>>7859829
>queer theory
NO.
Which would you prefer? Five or six Simpsons episodes written by Thomas Pynchon, or a new novel (by Thomas Pynchon) that isn't necessarily going to be that great?
There's no option C?
>>7859750
Option C is don't want the episodes or read the book
>>7859740
The book, obviously. Even something along the lines of Inherent Vice or Bleeding Edge would be acceptable.
What is some good nonfiction literature that I can read quickly and then name-drop in public to look smart?
nonfiction... literature?
The Secret
Look into Gass
With bookshops dead, what's a good way of discovering new releases? Amazon is dogshit at curation and discoverability.
(Pic unrelated, although they're just about sexy enough to justify them dumping the classic designs for the hardback rereleases)
>>7859572
Conversation.
Goodreads
Why would you care about new releases?
Unless you're a normalfag and want to talk to your work mates about the latest dystopian YA release, I can't really imagine any scenario where it'd actually matter.
What are some realistic post apocalyptic novels? I don't care what the actual apocalypse is (zombies, disease ect.) but how the author deals with how humans act when society shuts down. Here are some examples:
How do people deal with the inevitable mass raping?
After all the tampons run out, how do women deal with their periods?
Pregnant women?
Tooth decay?
Retarded people?
I basically want a story that's everything the walking dead isn't. The closest thing I can think of is WWZ but as I recall not a single person got raped nor were there teeth being pulled do to lack of brushing/flossing.
you can read fiction that takes place before the modern age and just pretend its post apocalyptic
>>7859508
A Canticle for Leibowitz is post apocalypse and about how humanity deals with the end of civilized society and such. It's not super realistic in the minute details like tampons running out and tooth decay but it's a great book that's definitely worth a read.
>>7859508
The Road
Alas Babylon
Earth Abides
On the Beach
thats literally it
As a senior in high school, for an "honors class" we are required to do book reports. I did The Stranger by Camus and Crime and Punishment. I want to read something that will challenge the audience.Any ideas for novels that will shock/and or awe my classmates?
The Decline of the West - Oswald Spengler
Genealogy of Morals - Nietzsche
Oh shit, you said novels.
Hm.
The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea - Mishima
Call of the Wild - London
Lord Jim - Conrad
All of those will trigger people.
>>7859242
Better to Never Have Been
Do it you won't. Faggot.
Camp of the Saints
Celine
>go to local book store looking for Dubliners
>three different versions
>one has deckled pages
>one has a typo on the first page of the introduction
>one is really bent and beat up yet is being sold as new
Why do physical bookstores exist again?
Also, can anyone tell me the best versions of Dubliners and Heart of Darkness? I love them both so I want to buy a copy of each.
>>7859120
deckled pages are cool you fucking weirdo
>>7859126
They just make it a pain to precisely turn pages.
>>7859120
You passed up the deckled edge one just for the fucking autism of it? Unless the decked edges cut into the text itself, who gives a shit.
Fuck off.