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What is the most convincing book on Fascism?
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>>7878453
The Futurist Manifesto

Being convinced that aesthetics are the foundation of society
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the world needs Italian hegemony tbqh

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> Norwegian wood
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Are you a girl?
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>>7878361
unfortunately no
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>Norwegian wood's description on amazon

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>mfw I make her come 10 times in a row
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>>7878239
>I
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Spooky thread
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>>7878239
thanks for the post. check out the sticky thread for some recommended reading and various other resources
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I'm reading The Savage Detectives now

>Hurry up please it's time.

What did he mean by this, /lit/?
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That you can't kill time without injuring eternity
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>>7878237
pretty sure this is just what english bartenders say at the end of the last round to let everyone know they need to finish their drinks and get the hell out

nothing really literary, honestly
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>>7878880
Yes this is true in part. He is also expressing the urgency for change and salvation.

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What's your favorite book of the 70s?
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>>7878125
>Calvino
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Haram
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>>7878125
literally one acceptable choice
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>tfw someone left a first edition of invisible cities at my uni's take a book, leave a book shelf :) kind-hearted soul

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Yo, pretetencious /lit/erati, we all know that every Anglo-modernist (in Anglo-lands it has a diff´rent meaning from the continent) and every Victorian writer would, now and then, quote the Bible and Elizabethan and Jacobean drama and Milton and Tyndale and Virgin Queen and Queen of Scots and Hobbes and Cromwell and John Donne. And sometimes they'd reach out to even continentals, like the Italians, the Romans o the Greeks.

My question is: Can you point out at least one place where Shakespeare or Dante would quote someone else? Pro-tip: you can't. Bump with "Nigga you SMART".
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They both quote the Bible extensively.
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have you even read either

>>7878096
literally this
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shakespeare basically took stories pre-written and blank-versed them

http://drmarkwomack.com/engl-3306/handouts/sources-and-adaptations/the-barge-speech-from-antony-cleopatra/

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I'm at page 53 or so and this is a pain in the ass to read. Is this going to get good?
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>>7878072
It didn't for me. Max Havelaar is one of those books that for a large part owes it's fame to it's historical significance. And if you ignore the historical aspect and look at it as just a work of literature then it is clearly flawed. I found it a real chore to read back in school and I don't think I would recommend it to anyone (especially not to schoolchildren) except people extremely interested in the historical aspect.

Dutch books I did like:
Dichtertje by Nescio (very very short) and The Discovery of Heaven by Mulisch (long but not at all difficult and a joy to read)
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Wolkers and Jan Cremer are one of the few enjoyable Dutch writers
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I read De Engelenmaker from Stefan Brijs recently and thought it was great. Might be worth looking into if you're looking for good Dutch literature.

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what should i read to get an understanding of economics?

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Do an economics degree or shuttupa your face.

>Hey /sci/, what should i read to get an understanding of biology?
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>>7878054
this desu i do economics for my degree and whenever these threads come up saying things like
>lol read marx and nicolas taleb n u will kno all :^)
its fuckin retarded i can post reading list for one of my modules if that would be better
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>>7878144
Undergrad syndrome's a bitch, huh?

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Are Generic settings bad even when that was your intent? I am writing a novel and the first two or three chapters are set in a generic post-apocalyptic world before the protagonist wakes up. I want to write it like generic because it would be a foreshadow for my future novels. I want to hear /Lit/ opinion/.

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If you're writing in English I don't think you'll need to worry about the content, no one will even understand what you're trying to say
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Generic is fine, but not too generic. Think about the opening. The setting must have some sense of familiarity to make the story come alive.

For example, think of these three post-apocalyptic movies:

Mad Max
The Road
The Postman

All are generically post-apocalyptic but they aren't the same settings at all. Be generic, that's fine, but give it at least some life to show that it's yours and it's a place that your characters and audience can relate to.
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>>7877916
Yeah this is pretty much true.

So i found a first edition of Stefan Zweig's only novel, "Beware of Pity" for just under a 100 dollars in an old bookstore this week. The owner didn't seem to know who he was so I quickly scooped it up.

Upon closer look I noticed that Zweig signed the first page. It still has the original dust jacket also. He would have needed to sign it between 1939-1942 before he killed himself which leads me to suspects it's rare indeed - if authentic.

Any idea how I can get this book appraised?

Also Stefan Zweig thread - any other /lit/izens enjoy his work?
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I love Stefan Zweig tbqh
You should take your book to a shop that sells antique books or, even better, a library that has some kind of professional staff and have someone look over it. Don't sell it at a shop though, since you'd probably be ripped of if this is actually authentic.
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Look for a local book collector who is not a retard

You could find ballpark shit on there internet but it's not definitive
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>>7877863
never heard of him before now but "Amok" sounds interesting.

is he worth reading in English?

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I was memed with this booklist on /his/.
What does /lit/ think of it?
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Haha I made that.

Good literature/film; the list wasn't made seriously.

Make of it what you will.
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>>7877847
But why "the master-slave" title?
... and did you choose the tiles from the top of your head or was there any kind of reason for choosing these?
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>>7877918
The title was a parody of the other book charts, "Brown Pill" et al.

There's relation between the works, but I'm irrelevant to it.

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The last time I committed a story to paper was in the 7th grade. I kept a writing journal, either my second or third one since elementary school (my elementary school had storytime every Friday where the class would read their story for the week).

Anyway, I got bullied a good bit in middle school, so I tended to keep to myself and passed time in class writing in my story journal.

One day while we were in gym, I forgot to lock my locker and somebody stole the journal from my backpack, as well as my cell phone. I didn't find it until it had been circulated through the 7th grade populace at school.

My writing did not earn their favor. I'm pretty sure I shredded that stupid journal, if only because I couldn't shred the students. In any case, I never wrote after that. Everything else in my life is going wrong, though, so I figured I'd give it another shot. I don't know where to start, though.
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>>7877770
lol you got bullied? what a fag. nice blogpost you got going on here.
>i dont know where to start
that's because you're not cut out for writing. stick to the journal, nu-male
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keep at it Jr. It can get better or worse from here on out. Up to you.
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>>7877770
Don't listen to Lionel. Start with things that disinterest you entirely. Practice ekphrasis or description of the texture of cardboard or the sensation of eating muesli. Or watch a scene from a film and describe it. You can build your own narratives and imagery later, the important thing is to get the pen going.

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Thoughts on this triolgy?

It sounds thematically interesting, but want to know if it is actually well executed.
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>>7877763
It's very postmodern. The plot can be hard to follow, but it's worth a read.
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>>7877763
Shit's top tier, but there's about as much Vonnegut influence as there is Pynchon influence, so it gets extremely silly extremely often
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it's really really badly executed

i absolutely love it

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if you finish reading a book and are still unsure of what the main theme/intent of the author was, do you prefer to read critical analysis and essays over the work or try and piece it together yourself? In my case, if the book is particularly challenging I tend to gravitate towards essays for help. If you think this is the wrong way of approaching the problem, what methods do you use to get to the core idea of a work?
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Yes and no. I read a lot on catch-22. Specially the characters and what they represented. When I re-read it I can't even explain how much more I enjoyed it.

%73 percent of the time though I value my own thoughts on the book itself. One isn't better then the other but if you read analysis after every book and are not writing an essay on said story you should go back to 10th grade English with Mrs. Rimjob.

I think everyone should have some more of there own concepts as to what is happening in the story.

Some books need it though. Like House of Leaves or some stupid shit like that.

>everyone can make fun of me for catch-22 now
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I like to read criticism for:

books that felt too simple (Age of Innocence, Lady Chatterly) - sometimes they lend new depth (Age of Innocence) and sometimes they pretty much confirm what I thought (Lady Chatterly);

books that are too specific (Tale of a Tub);

and on books where I have fairly strong opinions myself and upon which no one can achieve a definitive statement (Don Quixote, Hamlet)

Sometimes I avoid it. I've never read Gravity's Rainbow criticism and I actively avoid criticism of the Confidence Man.

>>7877791
Nothing wrong with that. On the topic of plebian literature, I'd be interested in Illuminatus! criticism, if it even exists.
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I read critical essays for the stuff I really enjoy, which usually means I have prior interpretations.

Nothing really has the key to the text, but I like seeing different perspectives. If I have no clue what I'm supposed to be getting from a book I don't really follow up on it.

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How do I begin doing that?
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argue with people who are smarter than you
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you want to be a filthy sophist? ewww
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Thank You For Arguing by Heinrichs

The Winning Oral Argument by Garner

Book I of Leviathan by Hobbes

All of Cicero & Quintilian

Thank You For Smoking: Feature Film for Theatre

But just start w/Heinrich's it will de-plebify you and give you serious persuasive superpowers.

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