are there actual marxists? what kinds of revolutionary activity would have to happen in the states to even begin to approach meaningful change?
in all honestly nothing
go live in a commune or something because the left killed itself
>>7913147
nice try, bucko
So tell me lit, do you have to believe in free will to be an existentialist? Also why do you believe in existentialism if all the evidence is saying we dont have free will?
>>>Phil. 101
Kant already answered this question 200 years ago...
>>7912386
>if all the evidence is saying we dont have free will?
Confirmed for having no knowledge on the current state of philosophy.
What is /lit/ currently reading?
Pic related
That's a weird cover, OP.
As for me, enjoying this as much as his others works, it's fantastic.
I'm really enjoying it so far.
tvätta händerna, boken blir smutsig(are)
who /psuedointellectual/ here?
>>7908797
...giving you the exact right answer
me sometimes, especially cuz im lazier than ever
What should I read before Wittgenstein in order to understand what the fuck he's talking about? Are there any good secondary sources to understand him?
>>7908208
1. http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/regulars/ray-monk-wittgenstein
2. Ray Monk's The Duty of Genius
3. Ray Monk's How to Read Wittgenstein
4. Blue and Brown Books
5. Philosophical Investigations
He's writing at a time where formal logic is developed (the mathematical logicism project in Emgland/Austria in particular) and everything was ideosynchratic.
Working through a 200 page book about formal logic sure would be helpful.
desu I don't get how anybody who didn'y do mathematical logic or analytic philosophy can take anythung away from it (except then reading the last page and smaking sense of it for oneself and agreeig with it)
I'm speaking about the Tractatus here btw., the secind book is less formal but harder to get
What should I read before Heidegger to know what the fuck he's talking about?
Im 20% into this, is as terrible as it seems?
>>7906718
Feels like a children's book or Coelho tier literature, should i drop it then?
>>7906693
My English teacher made our class read it over the weekend in our sophomore year of high school. Some of us complained about having to read a "whole" book in such a short time, but it really is the sort of thing you can read in a day or two and not really miss or overlook anything in.
Memeingway's a middling author at best.
>>7906722
You are an idiot, and should drop reading altogether.
For those of us that aren't going to school to get a degree in English, what are the best options to learn about literature and how to make good literature? Critics? Guides? What?
>>7906379
im curious about this too. I cant justify spending all that money for little return
i listen to lectures on youtube during my commute. i've learned a lot about lit. theory
>>7906644
Got a B.A in English last year, can't say it was much wasted money since I live in a country which has basically free Uni. Also I live in a non-English speaking country where it makes sense to learn practical skills in the future world language.
Don't deny that this was a good line.
Any writer who uses a semicolon deserves to be hanged
>>7903739
LOL, I like the line and was going "Godamn so many years hating John Green with a passion and the dude can actually write some.", then, thanks to you my friend, I notice the semicolon. I can sleep easy again.
>>7903739
What's wrong with the semicolon?
Books on a love relationship between a female from the upper class and a working class male?
I have a crush on a girl who is from a way different background to me and occasionally I convince myself I have a shot before reality reminds me that it I'm being delusional.
Please respond.
>>7914799
Post a pic of both of you and I'll tell you. No bullshit. Total honesty.
>>7914799
Classist shit like in the books isn't really a thing anymore. Unless she comes from old money, your social standing shouldn't be a problem as long as you're polite.
>>7914807
Why would I post a picture?
>>7914808
I assume she does come old money, although I'm not aspergic enough to "research" her family tree or anything. Also I'm not very polite, partly due to my being the only working class individual in the location wherein she and I both frequent and my subsequent disinclination to "play the fool" or "play the pauper" in the sense of my background being the basis of my character or something like that, and also due to my not really relating to many features of these peoples' lives and therefore not wanting to come across as unlearned, naive or plain stupid or something. This in addition to stuff like self-doubt and the usual stuff that comes with being very attracted to someone who has the potential to reject you and so on. Rationally thinking it would be like any other rejection but from her (and in the context) it would really be like a kick in the nuts.
small enough to fit in the text field>inb4 pages upon pages of jokes about pic related
One to start:
I know that my own father once found his daughter, coke-addled and twisted in the driver’s seat of the car he’d bought her for her sixteenth birthday, blood crusted below her nostril with the body of someone else’s little girl crushed by her tires and strewn along the freeway, and while the policemen took her away, all he said was that he could never stop feeling proud of her, but he had stopped feeling proud of himself for being her father.
The day I found Abilene lying in that heap, the needles in her arm, semen in her hair, she said to me, daddy, I’m sorry, dad, please help me, daddy, please take me home. And while we drove in silence I thought about how I was supposed to feel. About how fathers were supposed to feel. About how my father had felt. But I didn’t feel it. And I was ashamed of myself for being ashamed of her.
BUYING DEAD BABY, USED BABY SHOES
Ever worn baby shoes?
So, I've previously avoided Pynchon, largely because I think I've been afraid of him - for lack of better words. Lately, I've been thinking about finally giving him a go.
Before I start into a new author, I read excerpts of famous passages and any famous existing analysis of its themes and meanings and I research the author's background and try to learn as much about the author as I'm able. As I've begun to learn more about Pynchon and read various theories of his work, I'm getting more and more excited to dive into his canon. If I'm being honest, I've only really understood him as a meme from coming here (and maybe that will stay true?) and I'd like to finally give him an honest chance and see if I like his stuff.
Anyone read Pynchon willing to share what it is about his work, in particular, that makes him your favorite author or one of your favorites? There are Pynchon memes all over this place but it seems to be pretty rare that he's discussed with any seriousness.
I'd also be interested in hearing from those who don't take his work seriously after having read him, and why?
>>7911999
He has a great sense of humor, is adept at evoking a mood of genuine paranoia, and occasionally writes beautiful passages.
>>7911999
I like him because I feel like I learn more from his books than I do from anything else. He always seems to elude understanding, and the experience of reading his books if often frustrating and dull, but nonetheless, I managed to read them all, so he must have been doing something right. There are passages of extraordinary beauty in his stuff (particularly Against the Day, if that's what you're after) and a level of depth that you won't find anywhere else, tempered with jokes and silly allusions, so it doesn't get to stuffy and serious. He's talking about the big things that matter in our lives, from war to technology to family, in a way that is completely reckless and fearless, and admittedly in a way that doesn't always land, but that's what makes him great.
>>7912010
>I like him because I feel like I learn more from his books than I do from anything else. He always seems to elude understanding, and the experience of reading his books if often frustrating and dull, but nonetheless, I managed to read them all, so he must have been doing something right. There are passages of extraordinary beauty in his stuff (particularly Against the Day, if that's what you're after) and a level of depth that you won't find anywhere else, tempered with jokes and silly allusions, so it doesn't get to stuffy and serious. He's talking about the big things that matter in our lives, from war to technology to family, in a way that is completely reckless and fearless, and admittedly in a way that doesn't always land, but that's what makes him great.
I was reading someone who said he was the first writer of "hypertext fiction" that didn't have hypertexts. Would you agree?
They meant it like this: "Hypertext fiction is a genre of electronic literature, characterized by the use of hypertext links which provide a new context for non-linearity in literature and reader interaction."
>>7912006
>occasionally writes beautiful passages
Do you find they're few and far between? I'm relatively familiar with Cormac McCarthy, as an example who I like, but I feel sometimes that he's trying to be almost too beautiful with every sentence he writes (if that makes sense).
ITT: Philosophers that are right about everything
literally who?
>>7911162
>philosophers that are right
>posts a picture of a complete and utter hack
kek
>>7911169
You're the only hack around here, kid
Why exactly, according to Nietzsche is comfort so bad?
I love being comfy as a state of being more than most others.
Will to comfort is a better underlying process i think.
so why was he such a faggot?
this image i just realised may make it seem like i'm being ironic but i'm not
>Why exactly, according to Nietzsche is comfort so bad?
Which passage are you referring to?
Because it turns you into a fat retard, as this thread exemplifies.
What is the first sentence of that book you're working on, anon?
Her asshole glistened in the moonlight.
>>7907388
When we found our Chinaman dead in that desert, nobody had much to say about it.
Don't call me Ishmael.
I'm doing Moby Dick with the intention of saying the opposite of everything in it in the hope that there is some wisdom to unlock in it
A novel without characters, something along the lines of Koyaanisqatsi.
>>7910297
I like it
But how
i toyed with the idea of writing a fictionalized biography of zyzz but i don't really want to write a whole book about a meme
i might still make a short story out of it