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>pennis and also dicke and balls

Why do modern writers feel the need to do this?
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benis and alzo dig und ball D:
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I don't understand this shitty meme
Is it from reddit

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Hey /lit/ r8 my Arabic version of Ego and it's own
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>>7991126
I know a guy who wanted to translate it, wait I'll send it to him.
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>>7991148
You Arab ?
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>>7991157
No, I'm Stirnerian. My friend's from Jordan.

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Hi. I watched the newest episode of Game of Thrones for the first time last night. It seemed interesting and found out they are based on books? So, I did some researching and found them. I think i'll give them a try. My question is, which one do I start with? Also, does anyone know which book the newest episode was based on? Thanks.
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>>7991102

0/10
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>>7991102
go away
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Book nine is my favorite, OP. The new episode is based on the other one though.

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REEEEEEEEE

I haven't read any book for over a week because I'm 100 pages in to Nicolas Nickleby and IT'S SO FUCKING CRUSHINGLY DULL AND LONG WINDED but I'm a UKer who hasn't read any Dickens books before and I don't want to be seen as a pleb due to this.

I'm also starting to abhor art in general. I hate that I have to read for cultural capital reasons. I don't even enjoy genre fiction but I still feel the pressure to read.

I just fucking hate this pretentious academia-publishing-media industrial complex induced spin that books are a part of. I wish people saw books like chocolate bars or YouTube videos. Used and forgotten about, not heralded as containing profound insights / wisdom / anything.
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>REE
>Frogposting
Is this normal for /lit/ or is OP just a particularly cancerous faggot?
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The fuck?

90% of people don't read. No-one's going to judge you if you don't.
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Just read the sparknotes page like everyone else fucking does.

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>I am imperfect
>I can conceptualize something that is perfect
>therefore God must exist because of the disparity between myself and my conception

>I am not a hippogryph
>I can conceptualize a hippogryph
>therefore hippogryphs must exist because of the disparity between myself and my conception


Flawless logic.
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In this case you're imagining a hippogryph by assembling borrowed images, not conceptualizing it, whatever that word would mean for Descartes.
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>>7991011
All things are related to perfection: in themselves, they are nearer or further away from perfection. However, in themselves, things are not nearer or further away for nearer from "hippogryph-hood".

Everything I see has some perfection or absence of perfection, yet, I conceptualise (think) perfection: this perfection must be inspired or in some way given by god.
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>>7991050
The irony of Descartes argument is that perfection, or Godliness, is unknowable to the imperfect man. Therefore he cannot possibly point to a relation which he is unable to define.

He says in the fifth meditation that God's perfection would prevent him from deceiving. By what objective criteria is deception excluded from perfection? Did not God deceive Abraham when he commanded him to sacrifice Isaac?

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Hi /lit/

Do people in your family (or people close to you) read? What do they read? Do you feel stupid around them because of that? Do you feel enlighted and shit around them because of that? Did people ever made fun of you for reading "too much" or something like that?
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>>7990964

My Dad will dip into a sf/f novel once in a while.

My little brother's just getting into meme-/lit/ and he obviously doesn't quite understand them or literature in general. I'm kind of worried about it.

My Mom only reads self-help books. We have like a couple hundred of them she's read through. It's kind of depressing.

No making fun of others for reading too much in our family. Aside from me and my brother, we don't talk about books at all.
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>>7990981
>My little brother's just getting into meme-/lit/ and he obviously doesn't quite understand them or literature in general. I'm kind of worried about it.
What the fuck is meme-/lit/? Anyway he's still young, it's great if he reads anyway.
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>>7990981
starting with meme lit is a good thing anon. Its how people get into proper literature. the reason we meme stuff is so people will actually read them

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Any good books about/from Tibet?
Mainly about history/religion.
I know about the "Tibetan book of the dead" but that isn't exactly beginner tier.
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>>7990889
Basically Russians and Brits killing each other for 200 years in northern afghanistan, india, and tibet
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tibet is a tourist trap with a flag
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>>7990899
But it's pretty

/x/ /lit/ recommendations?

Preferably from a frustrated skeptics point of view or in a "non-fiction" format.
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>>7990887
>from a frustrated skeptics point of view
Ayy lmao
Fuck off back to >>>/x/

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Darren Shan general

ive never seen a thread for a man i feel is entirely underrated.
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>>7990847
I don't know who this is. Could you explain why he is good?
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>>7990847
>>7990892
Shan's the name and pre teen fiction is his game.

It's not great stuff but was a good time when I was 12. Seriously OP this isn't really the place for low brow fiction.
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>>7990847

I'm a fan of his, but I'd agree with this poster >>7990904 . OP, try reading the Procession of the Dead that he wrote under the name D.B.Shan. It's pretty good albeit VERY teeny, but better certainly than the demon stuff has always seemed from its edgy subject matter and covers.

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Which english translation of Les Mis does /lit/ recommend? Which are great? Which are hated? Does it matter at all?
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>>7990740
The one in your picture is the best.
Julie rose should be avoided at all costs.
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>>7990740
The wilbour translation or the modified wilbour translation (by McAfee I think).
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Signet edition is the best.

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Do you think he was onto something in regards to Western society?

I think violence is sort of a new past time in the US. Whenever there's some shooting or disaster people eat it up. The media couldn't be happier, the liberal left get to scream about reform and new laws, the right get to scream about their rights and get super defensive and in the cluster of it all the actual event and victims are forgotten.
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>>7990727
Our major problem is a lack of violence, not too much.
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>>7990734
ok well I already know 4channer all crave violence
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>>7990727
>violence is sort of a new past time in the US
Violence has been on the decline in the US for decades. I personally think videogames as a release of aggression/zombifying factor are to "blame"

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Is pic related any good?

I've read some plato and some aristotle, but I'm wondering if I've missed anything that could be pointed out by an actual scholar rather than my own interpretation.

What books, other than those written by the philosophers themselves, are good for explaining the views of a given philosopher?

Any will do, it doesn't have to be plato/aristotle
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>>7990712
RE: the Herman book, it's not very good. It's a pop book, with a pop understanding of Plato and Aristotle, which uses a bunch of assumptions about the characters and lives of each that are really based more on modern assumptions than anything that's either attested or in the texts themselves. The worst is this dumb assumption that Plato dismisses experience, which is simply not true and which is brought up over and over again as a starting point for all inquiries in the dialogues, and this peculiar take on Aristotle as an empiricist, a take that the early moderns (Machiavelli, Hobbes, Descartes, Bacon) certainly didn't take when they were accusing him of idealist nonsense with his discussion of substantial forms in the Metaphysics.

A better take (that I don't fully buy) is Gadamer's book, "The Idea of the Good in the Philosophy of Plato and Aristotle":

https://mega.nz/#!XYx1XDwK!fkjpKfjZTodDvP2t1cptpJqviKvGr2DVdzRsjdOgcbY

Another good one (that I'm pretty well persuaded by) is Ronna Burger's commentary on Aristotle's Ethics, which reads it as a work of Platonic philosophizing:

https://mega.nz/#!zN4X2CAa!cx7vA6OB3sLClCrSEsto_Mc2JnHJWHzzJa6DUyp01sE

>What books, other than those written by the philosophers themselves, are good for explaining the views of a given philosopher?
To be completely honest, not very much. Commentaries or scholarly works such as that which I even shared just above only hit the mark insofar as they make good sense of the texts themselves. They can be helpful in that way, insofar as they have to be clear enough about the text that when you read the thing itself, the commentary isn't leaving anything out or ignoring anything. It stands and falls in front of you.

Stuff like Werner Jaeger's speculative work on Aristotle's development, on the other hand, is so baseless and marked by modern assumptions and canons of coherence as to be worthless as a guide. In general, while there *may* be development among thinkers, any scholarly works that focus on development almost exclusively, or that raise arguments entirely dependent on a claim of development that cannot itself be satisfactorily shown is worthless. (A lot of scholarship on Plato and Aristotle has this bad tendency.)

When it's done with proof in the texts themselves, it can be pretty eye-opening, however (Hobbes, Bacon, Leibniz).

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What's the last bit of fic you read?
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Go away Paul, nobody here wants to see your pale nips and book of pop-teir morality plays.
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>>7990927
>pop
you mean top
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>>7990927
Paul.. On /adv/ he is known as Brandon.

He is literally on every board and causing havoc. I'm honestly intrigued about what he does in his life apart from 4chan.

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I've never been this intrigued by the idea of a novel before. I can't stop thinking about JR and I haven't even read it yet. I don't even own it for that matter. I've been looking everywhere in Toronto and I can't seem to get it. so I've ordered it.

can anyone who's read it please give me their two cents on it. in detail please. I'm really excited to read this.
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>>7990690
>I've been looking everywhere in Toronto and I can't seem to get it

tfw copped the last copy from Indigo

I haven't read a lot of it but it's almost entirely dialogue which can be followed if you're paying close attention. It gets really fun, actually, because Gaddis has a great ear for dialogue.
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>>7990747
that's funny I never even thought of going to a book store that sells new books.
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>>7990690
I've said it before (>>7983229), it's one of the best, most insightful, prescient and funny books I've ever read (almost a laugh a page). Here's a sampler, from when things really start rolling.

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What's the literary equivalent to Migos?
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bukowski
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>>7990666
wrong
u satan mane
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dr Seuss

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