>he isn't fluent in Latin and ancient Greek
>>8051896
>he made a new thread just to pretend that he is
>>8051896
>he wasted years learning....
>learning what?
>Latin!
>haha what a dork. I bet he thinks he's so classy reading ancient inscriptions and knowing what legal terms mean
>Chad and I practice French together.
>OMG that's so dreamy. I'm meeting up with Brad tomorrow to go over the Spanish quiz
>>8051923
>Women
Tfw
>R9k
>spend 10 years avoiding Wallace because I think he's some final boss of literature
>decide to read up on him this week on a whim
>he was a literal meme retard
>Infinite Jest was B+ at best, same shit done by a dozen other guys in the 20th century except they actually worked out their ideas instead of just being a trendy celebrity with them
>Brief Interviews is exact same thing, just read Barthelme and ten other guys instead
>only a trendy celebrity because horrendous parody-of-themselves-tier writers like Barth, Pynchon, Vonnegut, Heller, and Franzen greased the wheels for him to be famous
>would have been nobody if (also a shit hack totally derivative of DeLillo fuckup moron) Franzen hadn't launched him to fame while at the peak of his own fame
>these famous New Sinceritiers didn't even understand him, even HE thought they didn't understand him
>unpleasant as fuck, just a weird dude who acquired celebrity status and then killed himself
>got mad at people constantly for not understanding his "project", kept getting memed at interviews all the time
>admittedly even he, himself, didn't understand depression and addiction
>every coverage of his """""""""ideas"""""""" is 90% composed of WASN'T HE QUIRKY???
>SO QUIRKY!!!!
>surrounded by yes-man morons (opinionless voids) everywhere
>respectable publishers at the time and Zadie Smith sucking his dick all the time
>even though no one understood him and only because of his """"""ECCENTRIC""""""" personality they'd scribble down "His ideas come to us as if by revelation. He is a divine god and I want to suck his cock."
>literally a meme
>literally a retard
>just the shitty Dos Passos of a bygone generation
Alright, no more joking around. DFW fanboy people are fucking morons. Joyce, Pynchon, John Green, I kept forgiving and forgiving and forgiving you people for worshiping actual autistic children like these fucks, thinking Suicide Boy was going to be some top secret American suicide like Full Metal Jacket. And it's just more shit. You are actually all morons.
This isn't banter. If you are a DFW fanboy, or a fan of any bandana-wearing cuck, YOU are a MORON
i wonder what it's like to be so mad that you type out a whole bunch of quirky nonsense in green quotes
Agree in full except for the inditement of Pynchon and Joyce, who are both not only excellent but certified by the fact that they are basically worshiped by academics.
DFW is autistic
>>8051553
this
OP is right about almost everything.
Why did no one tell me how good this was?
>>8051505
What is this?
how much Xanax do you do or meme rap do you listen to?
>>8051505
lol
How do I write like him?
>>8051257
Be an ivy-league educated genius. Smoke dank and watch cartoons.
>>8051259
>Ivy-league educated
>Cornell
Ebin meme dude
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what does /lit/ think of Jung? probably more than anyone else, this man has shaped my approach to philosophy and opened the door to Hegel for me. never see him discussed here, however.what's the consensus on freud?
>>8050394
Jung tried to water down Freud's ideas. If you bring up Jung in an academic setting you may get laughed at. Jung's ideas are almost completely unverifiable. Most parapsychogists wack off to Jung while most psychotherapists look at Freud as the great forunner of their field. The difference between the two can be boiled down to their theories. Freud believed that psychical processes could be boiled down to physical processes. Jung believed that there was some kind of uber-mystical importence to the unconscious and that psychical disturbances had some sort of "spiritual" significance.
If you are a Freudian then you may keep your distance from Jungians because they tend to celebrate the neuroticism that you are trying to quell. Freudians are pro-reality-principal while Jungians have their own idea about how reality should be.
>>8050394
His theory of archetypes is excellent. It is a great resource for finding the commonality in figures. The different mythic pantheons down to low brow fiction and even in how historical figures are portrayed often reveals an archytypal base.
Archetypes, while people like to believe that they exists in man, are actually man's tendency to experience similar symbols to those of others. Thus we see reccurent themes (Sun, serpent, ressurection, etc.) constantly in all cultures and times.
By examining one's own symbols, the synchronicities (experience of symbols that have meaning in the mind of the subject through acasual connection), one can learn about their unconscious drives.
It's also a healthier view than Freud, who saw the unconscious as just a place for suppressed libidinous desires. Jung saw the unconscious as an integral part of man and a source of what is similar to all humankind. By dipping into that primal source, one can individuate onself, by bringing the unconscious, conscious, and ego into oness.
>what does /lit/ think of Jung
Best time to experiment with sex and drugs.
>21st Century Literature thread
The classics are good, but there is also some really good, serious (i.e not YA) post-millennial literature that seems to have been overlooked by /lit/'s resident "patricians". Does /lit/ have any fav 21st Century authors (that aren't John Green)?
For example, pic related is Junot Díaz - look him up.
Junot Diaz's accolades are the result of political correctness run amok. Utterly turgid writing punctuated by references to the lowest forms of popular culture.
Helen DeWitt
Diaz is meh
>21st century short story
>it's written in second person
Casual literature conversation
And
Questions that don't deserve their own threads.
Who are some good contemporary authors?
I couldn't find the book "early greek philosophy" mentioned in pic related on the internet and because I'm a NEET I can't buy it, I did found "The presocratic philosophers" by the same author Jonathan Barnes, if someone here has read both could you tell me if the content varies too much between the two books? Also, Does anybody knows of a site where I can acquire books for free instead of having to google "book name pdf"? Thanks everybody
I would like to recommend Strindberg's Inferno to everyone on this board. It deals with constant stress and anxiety, genius and desperation, as well as a crackling family life and the certainty that men and women will never function together. There is also occultism and bohemian (that is, poor) life in Paris. It's short and easy to read, and has probably been translated to your native language, if you for some reason don't like reading in English.
ulysses reading group/discussion chat
come meme about ulysses https://discord.gg/01016TZPAPUJMn17c
>>8043347
hello goato
>>8043347
hello goato
hello goato
I usually wait until there's already a couple of threads about him, but what the fuck. You know the drill, /lit/. Gimme some of your best memes. Anything about John Green should go in this thread. Shitposts are welcome. Non-shitposts are also welcome. You don't even have to hate the guy. Just come on in and make yourself a nice cup of coffee. There's creamer and sugar somewhere around here as well, if you're not fine with having it black. I think Janice left some donuts somewhere, too. Might be in one of the drawers. Yeah, I know, that's a dumb place to put a box of donuts, but you don't know Janice. She's fucking crazy.
Let the pedophilia accusations and fake quotes begin.
>>8047164
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bumpin for hatred.
>John Green
>Fantasy
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Chesterton edition
>Favourite Chesterton novel
>What do you like about it
>Why is he the only happy surrealist?
First for brent weeks, sanderson and rothfuss
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>>8040799
Is there a Napoleon of Notting Hill audiobook somewhere?
Just finished reading Light in August. I finally completed reading Faulkner's major works, and I think he's the great American writer simply because I can't think of an American with five masterpieces to their name. Faulkner has The Sound and the Fury, Absalom, Absalom!, Light in August, As I Lay Dying, and The Unvanquished. One can even mention The Mansion.
I thought I read the best Southern Gothic novel when I read O'Connor's Violent Bear it Away, but this also takes the cake. This is probably Faulkner's best work with regard to characterization, with such vivid outcasts featured throughout the novel. Joe Christmas is also an inscrutable, well-made, damned character.
Any thoughts about Light in August?
>>8045709
>I can't think of an American with five masterpieces to their name
>who is Gaddis
Seriously though, there has to be a re-discovery or appreciation of Faulkner. Too long, he's been the go-to southern Gothic writer. People need to find his work on their own rather than have to slog through AILD (excellent as it is) for senior English.
>>8045730
Here in the Philippines, most English teachers hate Faulkner because he's hard to read. I was called by my lit professor ages ago weird because I actually persevered in reading him.
They usually pick Steinbeck or Hemingway for American literature. Sometimes Morrison is also recommended. No one's heard of Gaddis or Gass, and I've had to do my own stumbling on Hawkes.
I will read Gaddis one of these days, though. Thanks for reminding me.
>>8045730
At most Gaddis has 2 masterpieces
I agree with the OP though, Faulkner is a rare writer who maintains a supremely high level throughout a great many novels. I have yet to read Absalom Absalom but im expecting great things.
I will say however that i believe the Great American novel was Moby Dick but Faulkner may be the Great Novelist.
>I was nothing, a shout in the playground, a rock in scree, the hooting of a car horn.
>Could I do this to her? Could I have this effect on her?
>Could I have this affect on anyone?
>No.
>For Hanne, I was a nobody and would remain so.
>For me, she was everything.
God damn /lit/ you didn't tell me this would be so emotional.
>>8044701
something like that im an eco light bulb and she is the sun john green's idea?
>>8044730
Feels a bit more genuine and less beta than that when you read the book senpai
>>8044701
When is book 6 coming out? goddam I want it so much
Who are your top three favorite philosophers?
my diary desu
In order (inb4: 'le you don't know what you're talking about...' I've read all their works)
Molyneux
Harris
Nietzsche
Just read this for the first time. This book is really fascinating has anyone else heard of it?
non, je seulment connais «L'Étranger». C'est le meme or non?
>>8042853
what does this mean? sorry I don't speak french
Finished it yesterday
I didn't like it.
Post the introductory paragraph to the novel you're currently working on.
>>8040208
You first.
The fat neckbeard giggled to himself and hit Enter. Electronic impulses flowed from his keyboard and out through the air and connected to the internet. The small text he had written now flooded the screens of the entire population of /lit/. All five of them furrowed their brows. Tony and Mark the gay lovers (who by themselves made up 40% of the content on the literature sub4chan) pulled away from each other in their haste to see what had come up. The text was written in big grey letters that overlapped the small pictures of frogs on their dusty laptop screen. It read:
>implying you'll ever get laid because you read books
Tony gently bit Tony's earlobe. He was horny and masturbation didn't cut it anymore, but Tony was having a bad case of butthole disease and their rowdy ruddy romps on the red futon now only incorporated kissing and nipple twisting. "I should be reading" Tony thought.
>>8040208
[character name] was [verbing] the [object] when [other character][description of event]
[dialouge][other character] said.