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>This ONE simple book / trick FINALLY lets you go from lazy and smart to really hard working and smart! Adderall dealers HATE it!!!

So what is it?
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Report frogposters.
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>>8043047
Intelligence
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You know such things are bullshit

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I find the process of scansion very difficult at times, is there something i could read to get better and more concrete understanding of it?
I was thinking of buying Stephen Fry's book, but it will take a while for it to get here,

"O, it came o’er my ear like the sweet sound,"

I came across this line by shakespeare, and it's supposed to be in iambic pentameter, but is the last foot not a spondee?

Also, is scansion with syllable length only in mind something that is ever done in contemporary english? I find that infinitely more interesting.
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Stephen Fry's book is pretty good. I recommend it.

>I came across this line by shakespeare, and it's supposed to be in iambic pentameter, but is the last foot not a spondee?

It's not metrical, IMO (and certainly not blank verse). But this is something Shakespeare does now and again. The kind of classical structure in English verse was fairly new around the time he was writing (and unprecedented in drama), so Shakespeare gave himself a great deal of flexibility in his prosody. Don't get too hung up on making every single stressed syllable fit a preordained pattern, every great poet will vary his metre. Paradoxically, what makes blank verse is the way the poet works against it, not how he conforms to it. Perfectly metrical poetry is boring as fuck (Wordsworth...).


>Also, is scansion with syllable length only in mind something that is ever done in contemporary english? I find that infinitely more interesting.

I don't know what you mean here. Do you mean ignoring stress and simply counting syllables? That's so rare as to be completely unheard of, because it creates completely turgid poetry.
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>>8043126
>I don't know what you mean here.
I mean you don't focus on the stress, but on the vowel length, almost like you would in ancient greek.

Isn't Dante's inferno only counted syllables with terza rima?
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>>8043200


>I mean you don't focus on the stress, but on the vowel length, almost like you would in ancient greek.

The poets who introduced the accentual-syllabic metre into English (Edmund Spenser and Sir Philip Sidney, ~1 generation before Shakespeare) actually experimented in writing poems with metres based on vowel length at first, because they were trying to ape the classical languages Greek and Latin. Turns out it doesn't work very well at all in English because our language is just different, so they turned to stress instead.

>Isn't Dante's inferno only counted syllables with terza rima?

Yes, but Italian (and French too, which has a syllabic metre also) is a Romance language closely related to Latin. English, with its Germanic heritage is too rough, so stress has to be taken into account (Anglo-Saxon poetry was entirely metred by stress alone).

Hope I'm of some help

Which translation should I get?
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>>8042988
it doesn't really matter. the book is a waste of paper and ink
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All of them.
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Bernofsky

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLccpNEGYHI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBXKxBAJb5E

Well, /lit/?
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>>8042776
>pink-on

worst one yet
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>>8042776
>>8042794
>>8042886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcYXWfGt7DY&ab_channel=TomMay

This is Thomas Pynchon doing the voice.
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>>8042914
I can literally hear his snaggleteeth

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Just bought this and marathoned the title. Is it good?
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>>8042242
What kind of a statement is that?
Yes, I think it's absolutely brilliant, but why do you ask after stating that you finished it without giving any other impression?
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hOLY SHIT I WANT TO BE DOMINATED BY SOULCATCHER SO BAD FUCK

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>8042248
Marathoned the title not the book. Dionysus.

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I'm about to read V. Any advice for what I should do to get the most out of it? Is reading Pinecone really as difficult as everyone says it is?
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There is a contingent of morons here on /lit/ who will tell you that V. is essential to an eventual reading of GR. They are wrong. Read the first fifty pages, or until Profane first mentions hunting in the sewer, then move on to GR. V. isn't worth the time.
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ur in over ur head kid
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It's not really hard at all. It's a really comfy book with lots of interesting stuff happening.
If you don't really want to bother with it, at least read Fausto's chapter. It's the best one

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Is the Wheel of Time worth getting into?
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>>8041340

yeah you better hurry and read all 35 quick before the show comes out so you can brag to all your friends on facebook about how much you already know about the series.

you fucking normie.
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>>8041349
>wheel of time
>normie
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>>8041340
No. If you want, read it's wiki. It's like Horus Heresy, great as lore, absolutely retarded to actually read.

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How do you guys get quality essays/scholarly articles to read up on the books that you're reading (if you do)? I want to begin to read more essays about the texts I read so that I can better understand them. Not so that I can be spoonfed interpretations, but so that I can expand my own and learn how to interpret better in the process. Just JSTOR/googling for PDFs?
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>>8041269
I don't know what it is you're asking
Yes people read secondary materials
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The question's in the first sentence of the post, dipshit
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JSTOR thru university access
most places with essays have uni access stuff

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>>8041032
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The Pillars of the Earth

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Does /lit/ like boats? I like boats.
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Yes to both questions.
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Pretty good book series desu
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>>8041028
Actually I have the Folio Society edition of "The Far Side of the World". Seems pretty cool. Not gay, btw.

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Prior to reading Yukio Mishima’s Confessions of a Mask, I had high expectations for both Mishima and the novel itself. After reading the novel though his style of writing and the content of the novel ended up disappointing me. I’m a believer that in whatever piece of work there are aspects that are likeable and therefore, it’s very hard to give a book just one star but in comparison to what I’ve read in the past, Yukio Mishima’s Confession of Mask confused me and annoyed me in many ways. I seem to be in the minority by giving this novel just one star and seem to ask myself if I’ve missed something that others have noticed. In writing this review though I’m impelled to write about why I found this book to be disappointing.

Although this book was to be about a young gay adolescent I didn’t associate this book with homosexuality as much as I did with sadism. In getting to know Kochan, the protagonist, and his sadistic and at times cannibalistic sexual desires I was confused as to why anyone would have such desires.

Besides this fact, I also found many other characteristics about him that confused and bothered me. In order for a character to be liked or at the very least be sympathized with, I believe, they have to be relatable in some aspect and Kochan didn’t really have any qualities that resonated with me.

If this book has accomplished something it is leaving me with a mound of questions that include: Why did Kochan try to prove to himself that he could fall in love with a girl when he knew that he wasn’t sexually attracted to women? Why did he think he might have loved Sonoko when it could have just merely been an emotion that comes with being close to a friend? Why did he feel like the victim once he broke it off with Sonoko? Why did he go and try to have sex with a prostitute when he wasn’t sexually attracted to women?

I honestly feel that if you know who you are that there isn’t a need to try to be someone else. Even if you are trying to hide behind a mask of propriety there are various ways in which one can still hide behind a mask of propriety while still being true to oneself to a degree.

Overall, although this read was quite disappointing it hasn’t deterred me from reading some of Mishima’s other works in the future.
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I wish Yukio Mishima would come back and behead everyone who posts on Goodreads with a muramasa katana that glows as it absorbs souls
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>>8040934
I follow this guy who likes a lot of Mishima Chan's favorite literature and has him as a profile picture. I like to think that's him.
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Best translation?

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What is /lit/'s opinion about reading Shakespeare's plays while referring to modern english whenever you don't understand something?
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>>8040909
If you're some ghetto nigger who just needs to read it for the sake of getting through Highschool then I don't see any issue
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>>8040909
it's idiotic as fuck

if you're gonna eat your vegetables at least use some fucking salt and pepper
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>>8040909

Pretty much all of Shakespeare's English was entirely natural to me. At worst, the meanings could be easily deduced; by context and so forth.

If this wasn't the case for you, get your head in the fucking dunce hat.

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Is Stoicism truly the GOAT school of philosophy?
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>>8040897
More like the 'good goy' school
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no that would be accelerationism
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>>8040903
>Deleuze

here's an ancient meme for you

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What do you think of him? Did your read him? The Horseman on the Roof was pretty comfy.
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>>8040877
>pretty comfy

Is it? Somehow I had the impression it was some sort of medieval Blood Meridian.
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>>8040877
He's cool
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>>8041369
>medieval
But it's set in 1830

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Hey, I've been traveling a lot recently and brought along a few Discworld novels to read b/c Prachet was apperently a comedy genius.

They're...ok? I mean to read on a plane or as a two minute distraction or something.
The jokes are honestly rare* and repetitive to a degree I initially couldn't believe. Story-wise it's hard to ever feel tense. The relative strengths of all the characters are so incredibly arbitrary it's always possible for an old lady to beat a dragon to death with her handbag b/c 'lolololololo WORLD OF COMEDY' and of course in that book the dragon gets literally farted into submission for no adequately explained reason.

I mean the man wrote basically a book a month. It's shocking they're as coherent as they are. Am I just not British enough to appreciate the humor?

> inb4 100 responses of pure hatred
This is an honest question. I wanna know if I'm missing something or is my taste in comedy just really bad or what.
* not counting words being mispronounced
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>>8040854
give examples of comedic literature you hold in greater esteem than pratchett's work
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>>8040854
Eh did you get this place confused with reddit? No one here likes this drivel
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> inb4 100 responses of pure hatred

pshaw

nobody gives a shit about genre fiction, proceed to the contamination thread for it

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