You suggested me this book and it was shit. Why did you do this to me?
>>8071796
Shitty in what sense?
>>8071814
It's written boring, and predictable. There's not a lot of atmosphere, and I was looking for atmosphere of the wasteland. Also, it felt like all of these authors used some standard science fiction formulas and having it be in wasteland was just a feature, like writing a romance on a tropical island
>>8071832
you may be right, but you had pretty vapid reasons for going into it in the first place.
We all know that the biggest loser, Adolf Hitler liked to listen Wagner. What author did he like to read?
>haha hey guys Hitler is such a loser am I cool yet hahahaha please
That's who you put down to feel good?
The worlds most hated man?
Does your life really suck that much?
Try aiming a little higher dude.
Nietzsche
>>8071778
>Hitler was Hitler (for better or worse)
>after his death, he is reviled by all
>this makes him a safe target for all kinds of base people to take shots at him
>cowards attack him because they're too frightened to attack any sacred elephants
>mindless status quo worshipers attack him because the mass told them to
>brainless ideologues parrot their party slogans against him
>weaklings spit on him for imposing his will, in an age that glorifies the weakling and denigrates the will
>and so on and so on
>people with noble character are inherently repulsed by these types of people and their behaviors
>they naturally want to distinguish themselves from the mass and deeply suspect its platitudes, they naturally dislike those who "kick someone when he's down," they have a (submerged) disdain for weaklings and cowards that can never be overwritten
>tfw the more a systemically pussified culture shits on Hitler, the more the occultated substrate of truly noble men slowly, imperceptibly gravitates back toward him
>tfw society shifts with them, pulled by their centre of gravity
>tfw the collective instinct of the herd, unconscious by definition, can't sense this shift, and continues to graze on its stale platitudes
>tfw another will rise
>tfw it is inevitable
>tfw too dumb for complex, difficult books
Self-pitying, self-loathing /lit/ thread. Also, what are you reading or about to read?
>tfw get sweaty and nervous everytime i look at poetry
I want to like poetry, i think i do like poetry, i have multiple poetry books, but god is it hard, I'm going to buy some more entry level poets like kipling so i can work my way up.
I'd love to write poetry one day but without a doubt if you aren't trying to mirror the greats you'll end up looking like shit.
>>8071646
I came here to ask anons what order I should read the works of the Cthulhu Mythos.
It will be my very first supernatual kind of reading so I dont want to miss the good ones.
>>8071646
Train your self to be able to handle gradually more deep and complex ideas
>God is dead
How could something that was never alive (or real) die? Wtf...
prove God don't exist
protip yuo can't
protip
AHAHAHAHAH
>>8071639
The idea of God, obviously.
I think Nietzsche and all those other 18th/19th century German idealists would be surprised, and possibly alarmed, at just how durable religion has proved to be.
>>8071644
*durable/enduring
Also, can we stop having new threads for every single Nietzsche quotation?
What are the best nonfiction books you've read?
Pic unrelated.
Art of the Deal
>>8071631
>>8071653
absolutely based literature my fellow red-pilled gentlemen
Gf is studying international politics. What books do I read to keep up with her?
read /pol/ desu
Read what she reads.
I. Is there a flowchart for Faulkner's books?
II. What is his best book?
III. Does he shit on Hemingway?
IV. Would you count him as continental and/or existentialist?
V. Is he the American Tolstoy?
Also general discussion.
>>8071590
I. Did you check the sticky?
II. Absalom, Absalom, IMO but I The Sound and the Fury and As I Lay Dying a very close seconds. If you read him, read all three of those.
III.On a personal level, yeah he talked a lot of shit. From a literary standpoint it's like comparing a soccer player to a football player. They both write, but they do entirely different things with their work.
IV. Yeah, probably a continental, I haven't thought much about him as an existentialist though. There may have been a slight impulse, but I don't think he leans strongly towards it.
V. No, they're too dissimilar and play different roles within their own cultures.
>>8071590
I. Pic related. For some reason it excludes Light in August, though – don't forget it.
II. As I Lay Dying.
III. Yes.
IV. This is nonsense. He's a modernist – would you ask this question of Joyce, Eliot or Pound?
V. See above.
I just finished As I Lay Dying and it was beautiful. The characterization in that book is something else.
"No hallowed skein of stars can ward, I trow, who's once been set his tryst with Trystero."
What did he mean by this?
If you can't understand that sentence then move on. Don't stop reading cause of one sentence.
it means even fate cant trump whatever plan trystero has for you
No one can protect you from Trystero.
I've only read Heart of Darkness so far and I'm interested in reading more of Conrad's writing. I'm on a tight budget, so I have to settle for just one book. What should I go with, Nostromo, or Lord Jim?
>>8071465
Neither, Nigger of the Narcissus and The Secret Agent are his top tier works
>>8071470
The Secret Agent it is then. Thanks a bunch, familia.
>>8071465
nostromo is his best imo (read jim/hod/short stories), definitely get that.
Does anyone know of a good instrumental piece that is good for ambient music when reading mystical fantasy? I like some light music while I read to keep my mind focused.
>>8071453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBnyyfvDwX8&ab_channel=AtmosphericBlackMetalAlbums
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Dungeon+Synth/
The best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIoILN_KrhU
“A new social type was being created by the apartment building, a cool, unemotional personality impervious to the psychological pressures of high-rise life, with minimal needs for privacy, who thrived like an advanced species of machine in the neutral atmosphere. This was the sort of resident who was content to do nothing but sit in his over-priced apartment, watch television with the sound turned down, and wait for his neighbors to make a mistake… people who were content with their lives in the high-rise, who felt no particular objection to an impersonal steel and concrete landscape, no qualms about the invasion of their privacy by government agencies and data-processing organizations, and if anything welcomed welcomed these inevitable intrusions, using them for their own purposes.” - JG Ballard, High-Rise (1975)
OK everybody always talks about 1984 and BNW whenever the question of "prophetic literature" comes up, what else comes to mind? I've just finished pic related, (and living in Denver, where generic over-priced high-rise apartments/condos are going up like weeds), it really did seem like JGB really was on to something with this book.
>>8071427____ :^) _____
>>8071427
If he was trying to say that apartments breed crime degeneracy then yeah, he had a point.
Seeing as he wrote it in 1975 I'd say it was more observational than prophetic.
>>8071513
>crime degeneracy
crime and degeneracy*
Where to start with hermeneutics? Schleiermacher? Guenon? Barthes? Is a solid base on semiology necessary to learn about this field?
Why don't you ask your professor?
>>8071341
Hermeneutics is a big and old category.
Schleiermacher was important as he was the first to expand hermeneutics from a Theological field to wider Philosophy of Interpretation but I don't think he is essential to read today.
Reading Dilthey and Gadamer will tell you everything you need to know on him, I also suggest you look into Edmund Husserl particularly The Crisis
Read the Stanford Encyclopedia article on it for starters. Schleiermacher is interesting in certain respects, and I have a bias here (he influenced Ranke's historical hermeneutics, which influenced 19th century Geisteswissenschaften) but not really necessary and not a good place to start. You want to have basic background on two things: the actual tradition of textual (especially scriptural) criticism called hermeneutics, and then the vague idealist milieu that hermeneutics in the modern sense grew out of.
Dilthey is where you want to start, but you're better off getting an understanding of Dilthey's basic outlines and (in my strong opinion) the intellectual context in which he was writing, i.e. as a response to Comtean and related positivist epistemologies of science which were felt to be seriously challenging the epistemological primacy of idealism, including other similar attempts at such like Droysen, Rickert, and Windelband. Collingwood's Principles of History (easily pirated) actually has a nice little skim of this so-called crisis of historicism and of its major figures, stating that Dilthey is the one that really gelled the hermeneutic thesis. Of course, he also founded the distinction between Geistes- and Naturwissenschaften (but again, similar to idiographic and nomothetic distinction of Windelband). Just some basic understanding of this helps. In all honesty, unless you're doing real research on the topic, there's not much reason to jump into Dilthey himself.
Subsequent hermeneutics is more difficult because it branches in so many directions. The neo-positivists of the Vienna circle were directly responding to the crisis of historicism and Dilthey's division, Husserl significantly was, and Heidegger departs from Dilthey and Husserl, especially in his earlier work, etc. But Heideggerian hermeneutics are their own thing, and so is Gadamer (e.g.), who is departing from Being and Time. The Diltheyan division/crisis also branches off into a lot of other fields and touches on a lot of things - Habermas, e.g., who debated Dilthey, Ricoeur, but just so many. It's a huge question. I wish I had a single survey book to recommend.
>TFW no horror books set in Puritan times
This is truly on area where Hollywood blows the fuck out of literature.
I didn't get this movie. Why was it scary? I mean I'm generally pretty open to horror that is very subtle and goes more for a 'creepy vibe' than anything else, or to horror that is plain experimental, but I found this movie to be neither of those things. I'm considering a re-watch, but would like to know what made it scary.
>>8071349
its a meme you dipshit.
>>8071349
It's a shit movie viraled by a couple of people on 4chins and reddit. It has no redeeming qualities.
Horror is a shit genre that mostly (if not always) has no literary merit.
Unpopular /lit/ opinions thread.
I think audiobooks read by the authors of those books are the superior way to consume literature. They allow stress to be put on words in exactly the intended way and do not require you to carry around a large book with you in order to read it, and do not require any trees to be cut down for paper. Unlike books or e-books, they do not present any possible eye strain. You can listen to an audiobook while driving, while going for a morning jog, while fishing, while lifting weights, while doing work, or while having a text-based conversation, among many other things. Hell, you can even listen to your favorite book while having sex. Overall I see no detriment to using audiobooks exclusively.
The only argument I've seen is that it makes you seem like a child who can't read for himself, but that's only an association fallacy. It's not a good argument.
bait
>>8071327
it sounds like a pretty legitimate opinion desu
Reading fiction has no worth, doesn't make you smarter or more empathetic and is simply entertainment on the level of film or video games.
1. Why do we start with the Greeks and not the Mesopotamians?
2. Where does one go after the Greeks? The Romans?
>>8071241
1) Mesopotamians were still attached to a "mythos" kind of philosophy. The western philosophy as we know it now was born 2500 years ago in the greek colonies.
2) Yes, continue with roman Epicureism and Stoicism, directly through the Medieval Era.
>>8071250
Who said I was talking about philosophy?
>>8071241
It's a general suggestion. How much of the Mesopotamians, and the surrounding cultures of that age, still exist is disappointing.
You go to where you want.
>Start with the Greek
>Be yourself/Read what you want