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>he didn't start with the romans
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>>9894688
>he didn't start with the sumerians
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Not even the Romans started with the Romans, they started with the Greeks.
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>>9895746
do you have the infographic of the timeline recommendation?

Hey /lit/, recommend me something depressing. Something that'll give me pic related feels.
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I like these threads
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>>9894463
what did he mean by this?

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What is the word for ideas competing with other ideas?
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Competition
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ideamachìa
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>>9894387
I mean you're not wrong. But I'm looking for a more technical term. Guess I'll have to think of one.

>tfw you started with the greeks
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>TFW you start with the Greeks.
>Now forced to read works chronologically and can't read anything from the 19th-20th centuries without doing an exhaustive reading survey of all the previous thinkers that come before.
>TFW it will take an entire lifetime.
>TFW I don't have an entire lifetime to do this.
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>tfw other idiots constantly get cucked hard by memes and I'm still sane
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>tfw i skipped the greeks

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Do you move your lips while reading or is it all in your head
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>>9894086
I don't even narrate it to myself within my head, I just look at the words and understand.
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>>9894089
How long do you read a day?
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>>9894103
2 or 3 hours most days.

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>tfw I'm a backslided Christian who's considering converting to Buddhism

What do /lit/? Pic unrelated.
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meditate regardless of what you do eventually.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9avnnk9e5180bon/Meditation.zip
http://www.meditationexpert.com/ebok/howtomeditate.pdf
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>>9894093
I have the Headspace app. What do you think of it?
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>>9894018
I'm in a somewhat similar situation
I'm not an atheist and I know what I belive but I'm unsure where to go with my faith

born and raised Catholic, still have a lingering appreciation/loyalty to it and Christianity in general I can't shake; anyone who comes from a strong catholic family would understand.
on the other hand I've read enough and am aware enough of the major issues with Christianity which nagg me, mainly the slavishness of it in some respects.
more than Christianity I appreciate Greek and Roman thought, but becoming a Hellenic pagan just seems incredibly silly to me.

I like in asia now so Buddhism is everywhere and I've had time to read a lot on it, while I appreciate it immensely it just seems to lack the same level of conviction in my view that Catholicism has. there does't seem to be that feeling of "rapture". thus far I've always treated Buddhist beliefs and practices as more of an addendum to my Catholic faith, though calling myself a proper catholic would be a lie.

Orthodoxy has always interested me, I read a bit about it while learning Greek in uni but I never went far with the language and thus not with Orthodoxy either.

really I have no idea where to go, I've thought about heathenry as well but again it seems so artificial for me

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Does the subjective worldview destroy critical thinking? Viewing all art as totally equal means that no criticism is valid, as the only worth something can have is that someone "likes" it. If I err in my understanding, please correct me.

Pic unrelated.
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Criticism holds no ground.
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>>9893942
Pic definitely related, objectively shit game that gets loads of undeserved praise
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The only important part to me is that people stop equating "art" with "art I like" and stubbornly claiming that whatever they don't like "isn't actually art."

Art isn't good or bad. That's not what the word is meant to denote. Low-quality, easy, untalented garbage is still just as much "art" as classic novels and musical compositions are

>45 minutes on a single paragraph of Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil
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So what?
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>>9893691
sounds like he knows how to read Nietzche properly. you should try it sometime
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Heidegger's lectures on the Republic are just about the first sentence, or so I hear.

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I've always read fiction growing up, now i want to read for self improvement and knowledge. How is this book list I made? what should I add to it? what should I cut out?
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>>9893408
Consider starting with the Greeks.
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>>9893423
Must that be first? I've read the Iliad and the odyssey but that is a lot of greek literature.
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>>9893442
No. It's just a /lit/ meme.

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>My reading of Plato

The world that appears to our senses is defective and filled with error populated by entities called “forms” or “ideas” and these abstractions are eternal, changeless. But there is a more real and perfect realm and in some sense paradigmatic for the structure and character of the world of our senses. This is the World As It Is and I believe Plato was the first phenomenologist. But that's completely opposite to what we know about Plato, right? Plato says it's reality that's fucked, and there's a spirit realm of perfect shit, that's what we are told, right? More on why I think that Plato never meant that in a moment. Calm your tits and let me continue with my reading.

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I found that the most fundamental distinction in Plato's philosophy is between the many observable objects that appear beautiful and "the one object" that is what beauty "really is", from which those many beautiful things receive their names and their corresponding characteristics. Nearly every major work of Plato is, in some way, devoted to or dependent on this distinction. But here's the kicker: he never says it straight out. Think about it! It's all in dialogue form. How do you know he is not poking fun at this ridiculous abstracting? Oh because we have many people tell No, he really believes in that. Nevertheless many of his works explore the ethical and practical consequences of conceiving of reality in this bifurcated way. I believe what Plato really believed, given that his student was the Father of science, that we are urged to transform our values by taking to heart the greater reality and the defectiveness of the subjective world. I believe Plato meant through his dialogues that we must recognize that the body is a different sort of object from the soul—so much so that it does not depend on the existence of the soul for its functioning, and can in fact grasp the nature of reality far more easily when it is not encumbered by its attachment to anything abstract.

>who the fuck do you think you are extrapolating all this shit?!?!

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My reading is encouraged by the belief that the forces surrounding religion and politics over the thousand years around the birth of Christ shaped Plato's works and bastardized it and if it wasn't for Aristotle's space for metaphysics and the cleansing of religion by the Muslim caliphate, science would have been completely stunted by these institutionalized power hungry historically based forces (I.e. Rome, Judea, etc.). I believe Socrates isn't his "go to" guy, but a clown, perhaps fictional, and one that needs to die. Of course the oracle would say he was the wisest, the oracle doesn't know shit! In my reading of Plato he uses a very creative way of saying what he really believes by having this clown say it in the opposite and that what Plato really wants for us, and for philosophy is nothing short of a phenomenological science. I have found in a few of his dialogue works that, if you keep in mind this creative inversion technique, Plato really believes it is the body, not the soul, that always retains the ability to recollect what it once grasped of reality, and that the lives we lead are to some extent a punishment or reward for choices our ancestors made in their life (genes, inheritance, etc.). We all know this to be obviously true, that we are a product of our ancestors, but the genius of Plato, beyond the technique, is that he is saying that the body itself anchors is to reality and that subjectivity is a weak spook. Plato is doing existential psychology, he is at the forefront of creative writing and the psychology of being and that's why he is still the first, the head of philosophy. I believe that if we read through the bullshit of spooky readings we see that in many of Plato's writings it is asserted or assumed that the truly enlightened —those who recognize how important it is to distinguish the many (the many real things that are called good or virtuous or courageous, which is true) from "the one" (the one thing that goodness is, or virtue is, or courage is, which is retarded) —are in a position to become ethically superior to unenlightened human beings, because of the greater degree of insight they can acquire into the abundance of reality (I.e. zoology, astronomy, geology, etc.). You see that science belongs not to Aristotle, but to his all too brilliant and deceptive teacher, Plato.

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You made it. Are you pissed off? You should be faggot
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>>9893280
K E K
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Request books about being/becoming a (gamma male). I could not find a better term.
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Well, I think weaving a symbolic identity and developing an inauthentic self would be a poor start in this venture.
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the only way to win is not play the game
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>>9893210
>he wants to live his life in accordance to a meme some faggot on r9k whipped up in half an hour
>he wants to look at himself in a mirror every morning and say "I am a gamma male"

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Do you have to be a naive upper class white american to enjoy this book and ''broaden your mind'' ? I read around 100 pages and I am bored out of my fucking mind by the author's almost childish attempts at making his points. Am I a pleb for not getting it or is this book just old for this age ?
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>the people that manipulate me and fund our ideologies through foundations are naive

da woke white undergrad striver underclass, gents
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>>9893093
>>9893108
Congrats on a shit thread already. Fucking idiots. Get the fuck off the literature board
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>reading for points and not for the hybrid modernism.

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A few days ago someone here posted a link to some study that showed that ereading is worse than normal reading

for those who have an ereader, do you think you're retaining less than if you were reading paper?

thinking of buying an ereader because I'm a minimum wage wagecuck and that would save money
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i can't see why you would retain less at all, the screen looks just like a page of a book and there's no distractions or notifications or anything. i actually think i understand it more when i read on an ereader because of how easy it is to define and translate unknown words.
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With ereader i read MUCH FASTER but in the end remember less.
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I can't comment about it being worse in terms of retention, but an ereader is just not as good as a real book, so don't buy one thinking you'll leave paper behind for good.

I don't regret buying one because a lot of what I want to read is either expensive or rare and there's no way I'm reading hundreds of pages on a conventional LCD. However if I had the choice between buying a book for $5 or reading it on an ereader for free I'll still pay for the real thing.

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How many here has schizophrenia? Does it affect your reading?
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>>9892542
how the hell is schizophrenia real? like just realize there's no one else in the room, like ghosts don't exist lmao
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>>9892548
Try to count the voices inside your head instead
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You most likely wont mind many actual schizophrenics browsing this board.

Enjoy the soothing tunes of Wesley Willis instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh942B0QmRU

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>open my bookcase
>this shit flies out

i thought "bookworm" is just an expression and not actual thing
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If you take its dust and put it on your dick a succubus will come tonight
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>>9892244
Kekbump
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>>9892244
>open bookcase
What did he mean by this?

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