What are some literary works that exalt the human body, particularly a physical ideal?
>>8161767
My diary, to be honst.
>>8161767
Strong Curves by Bret Contreras
Btw Puritanical values have nothing to do with nude bans on SFW boards. There are plenty or red boards where you can drop your porn folder. Its often said that your image should never be more interesting than your post, as it causes derailment to the thread. Nothing productive gets done with 200+ replies spouting "who's this semen demon" and "sauce pls"
What does /lit/ think of my premise?
>hell is like an office job in another universe where each demon is in charge of torturing their assigned human soul and as a reward it can ascend to a godlike form, but lately a decrease in mortality rates left many demons jobless while others keep receiving human souls. Our character Emily then gets involved in a hell-like protest against Death, the owner of hell, who fires them by throwing them into a void. Emily floats around endlessly only to later find planet earth where she is found by Jacob, a 25 year old NEET whom happened to be her assigned human and as a result only he can see her. Because she is slowly dying her powers of telekinesis in earth are limited. The story launches from there with Jacob at first trying to kill her only to later accept her as a partner in crime in an attempt to build their own society.
It is full of dark humor and is kinda edgy but I've already written and deleted countless rough drafts to get to what I have now.
Please tell me what you think and no it is not bait
>>8161720
Sorry
Reading this concept alone somehow emulated the feeling of finishing a book you absolutely hated
DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME ON THIS
The Skinny girl and the Fat girl
We can play Supermon withal names
Supper excuse
Bead routine vyes season
90 day wonders
Believing we had to love you
Pierian, slow motion jargon void real interest in touching zeke, catsup
We wouldn't throw her outta bed for crackers.
poem i'm into, title needs work
>>8161725
suggestions?
Xenagogue
Meant the indication
Sliver Plume (possible car accidents)
Moist Net,
Trying to count the trees, the mountains, the white onyx step stones, the graves, the trash
Know to not try
Shave the back of your neck to impress yourself
Oh! Sloppy handwriting; practice in correspondence to pretty inmates (reference inmate numbers here)
The men whom paved the tunnels
They call us their names, and think proud.
Is it a good book? My friend tells me she loves it but I get the feeling the main character is just /edgy/ and not relatable to people who are actually depressed and aren't normies and maybe are a little r9k.
it's a good book. also, you should take it as a matter of course to ignore what other people say about books before you've even read the first page.
and stop thinking in terms of memes, for chrissakes
>>8161602
*a book
>>8161594
Found it relatable when I was 12, sort of but less so at 14, couldn't finish it again at 18. It's probably worth reading in a lifetime, but I'm sure there is something of more substance by Salinger out there somewhere.
Hating the book because the character isn't relatable is tantamount to meming
Hypothetically I've never read a book in my entire life. Where should I start if I want to become more well read than 99% of the population?
You should start by not wanting to be more well read than other people. Comparing yourself to other people is what 99% of the population does that stops them from being so well read, other than reading. Just read and see the book from your own perspective; and if you don't know what that is yet reading can help with that too.
Why do 4channers often have this deep need of comparing themselves to other people and seek to be 'statistically' superior? It's a really sad and juvenile way of thinking
>>8161609
Whats the point if I'm not superior to others?
Still looking for a place to start.
Recent purchaseses/buys thread.
Show us what you spent all that cash on Anon!
>>8161552
I fell for the meme
>>8161571
>not getting the Landmark Herodotus
>>8161575
did the sticky deceive me?
do you think we could get her to read some real literature? maybe if we spameme'd her comment sections. I'd love to see her review something good. even if she hated it.
>>8161527
her YouTube= abookutopia
I hope no one reports this for raiding
>>8161532
I don't wanna raid her. just comment and be like "wow cool video sasha your so cute. you should read infinite jest. it follows this dysfunctional teenager is his quirky family! "
What books would you recommend to someone who is trying to get their shit together and had no positive role models growing up?
Iliad and Odyssey, The Enchiridion, and biographies of great men.
>>8161430
>someone who is trying to get their shit together and had no positive role models growing up
Always struggled with this. I feel like I've spent my early 20's just trying to make up for my adolescence.
Marcus Aurelius-Meditations
Dear friends,
Do you ever take notes when reading? If so, for what purpose? As a mnemonic tool? Or as part of the process of understanding?
Care to tell me?
No, i only highlight passages i find important and/or beautiful.
Non-fiction?
I read the part/chapter once, then pick up my notebook and a pen to take notes while skimming what I've just read. When there's secondary material available I read it before the skimming part. It works very well for me.
>>8161301
>dear friends.
We are not your friends you fucking gay cock sucking cucked faggot.
End immediately your sad worthless life.
Why does it seem like no one mentions Lovecraft's works?
>>8161220
What? I hear nerds praise the shit of Lovecraft all the time.
Is this bait? Because I'm pretty sure we're both on the internet right now.
>>8161223
Warhammer players aren't people
So why does everyone on this board seem to hate Ayn Rand.
Genuinely Curious.
>>8161087
because her writing is subpar for literary fiction and her philosophy is subpar for philosophy. she tried to combine both and failed tremendously.
she also makes hilary clinton seem less sociopathic by comparison.
People who like her philosophy tend to be people looking for some kind of modernized Carlylian or Nietzschean great man worship for the post-industrial era (the entrepreneur as opposed to the aristocrat or condottiere). Typically Americans, since that's the one holdout of classical libertarianism left in the world. Classical libertarianism is also a cult strongly encouraged by the larger cult of neoclassical economics, which is the religion of the American plutocratic classes.
And just in general, the American obsession with money and the entrepreneurial spirit doesn't translate well across the Atlantic (see Tocqueville). European economic conservatives tend to be pretty staid by plutocratic standards, interested in protecting their class, but not in selling bombastic "REAGANOMICS SOLVES LITERALLY ALL HUMAN PROBLEMS" Bernaysian propaganda to obese consumerist proles. Carlyle-ly inclined guys over in Europe tend to go for more traditional forms of hero worship.
Her writing isn't great, and the ways in which it is not great are pronounced (giant block monologues), so she's easy to mock. But the books are decently stirring if you are into her shit.
She was also an insane cult-leader herself. Whatever values she represents to the entrepreneur-worshipers, she was just kind of a crazy old cunt, and her philosophical system is child's play compared to the real philosophical titans of the 20th century. It's relatively easy for leftists to mock.
Because she's a woman and 95% of the posters here are men.
Any Tolkienites here?
On the fucking books board? Are you serious?
unfortunately
I have a question. What exactly is the purpose of Merry and Pippin? It's been about 10 years since I've read LotR, and I vaguely recall them doing something actively, but moviewise they do nothing except be present when events take place. Then they're treated with the same reverence that Sam and Frodo are treated with at the end? Bullshit.
Is the only reason they were allowed join the Fellowship because hobbits are sturdy when it comes to the Ring's influence, and they needed a few extra bearers in case Frodo then Sam died?
I just checked out Madame Bovary and Les Miserables in French and English
I think I'll read Le Mis first, but is Madame Bovary any good? I vaguely remember hearing about it at some point
Bovary is largely superior to Les Mis, à tout point de vue.
Don't call it Les Mis. Don't capitalize les if it isn't the beginning of a sentence. Emma is a MILF.
how is the prose in the translations? The one by flaubert is by lydia davis, and hugo's is translated charles wilbour
>>8160850
good to know
just starting out with french actually, I can read spanish already so hopefully it'll come faster
What's a good book on the history of the Crusades?
>>8160724
Why do Muslim invaders have less of a right to the Holy Land than Roman invaders?
>>8160739
Why do Jewish people have more of a right to the holy lands than early neolithic farmers?
>>8160724
There's two important facts that a lot of people seem to conveniently avoid for some reason. The only reason the crusades ended in an arguable stalemate or marginal Christian victory is because the Mongols absolutely fucked the Abbasids. Also the only reason Turks (who for the notice, participated to a very minimal extent in crusading) became powerful is because the Byzantines were fucked by the crusades as well as Venitan assholes
Should you read a book if you are not retaining it?
>Reading Ulysses
>It appears to be extremely random introducing characters, and giving background about random things
I am truly impressed by the writing style, but the jumbled story line is hard to follow, and it makes it hard to hold my attention.
Should I power on?
>>8160665
>the jumbled story line is hard to follow
>reading for plot
If you are enjoying the process of reading it
There isn't a test at the end so you don't need to have memorised anything
>>8160669
Part of me feels, what is the point if I can't remember much of the details. I've gathered that Stephen is basically the main character...but everyone else I'm having trouble with.