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Hey I'm really bad with story structure, I've written something that I quite like in essence but I know the structure isn't great and I was wondering if somebody with good literary criticism could help me shape the story better?
I make no apologies, I am a beginner, thanks.
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Awful to say the least
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>>8162353
>I was wondering if somebody with good literary criticism could help me shape the story better
kys dood
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Recently finished reading The Complete Fiction of H.P. Lovecraft, and wondered what /lit's opinion on Lovecraft is, and your favourite of Lovecraft's novellas
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>>8162267
My opinion is unspeakable and cannot be expressed in words.
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Why don't you start telling us your opinions and favorite work so we can have a discussion?
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>>8162279
Ok, well I personally I enjoyed The Doom that came to Sarnath and Beyond the Wall of Sleep the most, perhaps quite controversially. Despite some of the stories being a little hard to follow, it was genuinely interesting to see Lovecraft's synthesis of his xenophobic tenancies with the disgusting creatures he describes. My only gripe is that,as previously mentioned, it seems like a bit of a cop out to just say that whatever he was trying to describe was indescribable and the narrative of a piss scared academic in fear for his life got a bit old after 60 something stories.
>"Of Kant it may be said that what is good and true in his philosophy would have been buried with him, were it not for Schopenhauer...." - Michael Kelly, Kant's Ethics and Schopenhauer's Criticism
What did he mean by this?
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>>8162234
why don't you tell us what you think that means, OP
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Kant is some apex retard famous for being mocked by better men, much like sophists, expect kant was turned into like sophistry -yet- so fellow retards mistakenly believe he had any contemporary value
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>>8162243
Habla usted ingles?
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My /lit/ bros, can you suggest some books similar to pic related?
Also general haunted house books thread.
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>>8162217
is that written by a nigress?
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>>8162217
Also The Shining
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>>8162329
>doesn't know who Shirley Jackson
go back to /pol/ you fucking pleb
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>wake up this morning
>vaguely remember writing some poetry last night (I do this often)
>decide to see what I wrote
>it's one line and only three words
>the entire poem is just "I regret everything"
>the title is just a symbol
Pic related is the symbol. Have I achieved maximum pretension, or am I actually breaking new ground here?
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>>8162196
maximum pretension
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>>8162196
wow so deep
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>>8162207
Yeah believe me I know. Usually what I write isn't so shitty.
I even signed and dated this one though so I'll just mark it down as an experiment in brevity.
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>you never went to Eton or Westminster and then Baliol College or Christ Church College or Corpus Christi College, Oxford and then inevitably became a famous patrician later
How do I not kill myself due to this feel? I did very well at school but if I had gone to those places I would have been typical, not the huge outlier. How can anyone expect to achieve anything without being surrounded by patricians?
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>>8162194
I went to Harrow, then Balliol College. I agree you are probably fucked.
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Why is it so easy to empathise with 1930s British politicians and their later lives? Chamberlain's last 5 years get me every time.
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I went to a grammar school then King's College Cambridge.
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This is hard to read.
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And purposefully so, making it garbage
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>>8162061
Embrace the mundane- otherwise roqentin's struggle will no fully resonate with you. feel what he feels OP
>that passage about everything becoming bleeding penises
what did he mean?
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>>8162061
It felt well crafted yet absolutely souless.
I want some dense, complex, obscure, long, memeworthy works that are not often mentioned here. Can I have a list?
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Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson is a good start. Come back in a few months when you finish it
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>>8162146
>Dense
>complex
>obscure
>long
>not often mentioned here
Are you retard [sic]???
Is listening to music while reading a meme?
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>>8161971
Stop talking about 'memes'. It's embarrassing
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>>8161971
Depends. If my house is quiet, I prefer reading without music. If there's a lot of shit going around (say, dogs going nuts or my moms watching Dr. Phil and it's really distracting me) I listen to music of an ambient sort (think: Nujabes homework mixes, or some chilled out classical).
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>>8161980
kill yourself my man
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I am taking a major authors study in the Fall on Virginia Woolf and DH Lawrence. The books we will cover haven't been distributed yet but I'm anticipating To the Lighthouse, Mrs Dalloway, Lady Chatterley's Lover and some others. What does /lit think of these authors. (I've never read any of their works before).
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>>8161970
Personally, I don't read women writers.
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>>8161970
those are both great writers. what else is there to say about them? enjoy reading them. also read around the lives and times of the rest of the bloomsbury group. there's quite a lot of sex and drugs in there.
>>8161990
there's always one turd who has to make this comment in every fucking thread
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I love woolf and I've recently started reading DH so they're great in my opinion
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what's the most depressing novel you've ever read?
cause I wanna read it
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>>8161921
American Pastoral
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Werther, anything by Emile Zolá.
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THE BOOK OF
DISQUIET
BY
FERNANDO
PESSOA
gr8 read
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A movie could take you 3hrs to finish.
A book could take 30 days to finish.
Vetting the quality of a book is much more important than a movie.
How do you go about choosing/finding which book you should read next?
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i just pick up a book off bloom's list
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>Search "top 100 of all time" lists.
>Scan the synopsis of each. Ignore the ones with themes or plots I don't like.
>Queue them up.
or
>Search "top 100" lists of a favorite genre.
>Scan the synopsis of each. Ignore the ones with themes or plots I don't like.
>Queue them up.
or
>Search the entire bibliography of a favorite author.
>Scan the synopsis of each. Ignore the ones with themes or plots I don't like.
>Queue them up.
The real question is, where to find these "lists" that aren't complete shit.
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>>8161894
>A book could take 30 days to finish.
kys
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Boy. He sure loves his naive childlike girls.
It's funny that he studied with Nabokov.
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It's funny how you didn't finish the book
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>>8161859
Why do you think he's a complete recluse? Why do you think he's terrified of being photographed? Why do you assume that child with him in the only recent photo we DO have is his son, doesn't tat seem a little outlandish for an 80 year old man?
Pedophilia is not as rare as people like to pretend- what do you think the odds are that NONE of your favorite authors have raped little children?
Nabokov? Dostoyevsky? (Remember that """"fictional"""" confession in Demons?) You don't really buy the 'Lewis Carol wasn't a pedophile' meme, do you? That's just revisionist whitewashing, same as we do to everyone on their apotheosis into the canon. Lewis Carol's photographs were no different from ShowStars or VladModels or a million other child erotica studios today, and anyone who thinks ol' Vladdy didn't masturbate while writing the semi-autobiographical grinding scene in Lolita is willfully blind.
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>>8161906
Pedo studies is the new Queer Theory.
Has anybody here read Knausgaard and felt like their life sucked in comparison?
I keep thinking how my own biography would look and it would be so fucking boring in comparison.
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I cry to this everynight
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>>8161850
i bet you think in search of lost time is a biography too
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>>8161886
I'm actually reading it right now. I realize that the conversations between Knausgaard's parents when he was around 2 years old can't be accurately remembered in any way, but still the general narrative of his life:
>growing up in a cozy Norwegian town
>interesting family life
>meets girls and friends at school
>works at a radio station and mental home
>teaches for a year in Northern Norway when he is only 18
>goes to university in a comfy little town
>has an older brother who helps him make friends, find rooms to rent and generally saves him from being an edgy loner
>dates several cute girls
>goes to Iceland with one of them and meets Bjork
>barely ever has a job
>spends months at a time living in remote cabins writing
>is able to buy his first apartment without even having a proper job
It's so cozy and enviable, to me any way.
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Pynchon didn't publish another book for 17 years after Gravity's Rainbow.
17 years.
Since then, he's been pretty prolific, having written three novels in the past decade, one of them an outrageously laborious doorstopper.
What was the deal with this gap? What did Pynchon do for such a long time? Did his fans think he was dead?
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He writes books simultaneously. It's a known fact that during that gap he started work on both Mason and Dixon and Against the Day.
Nobody thought he was dead, particularly because he published Slow Learner during that time (1984).
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This article reveals a lot of mysteries about his life, including his years between GR and Vineland. He's not a total mystery.
>http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/thomas-pynchon-bleeding-edge.html#
>Occasionally he came out to visit the Shetzlines in rural Oregon. “I remember Pynchon on the horse I had,” Shetzline says. “He looked like Don Quixote.” Shetzline’s ex-wife Mary Beal says he mostly stayed up late and watched TV. (Kirk Sale remembers his houseguest arguing with his kids over which cartoons to watch.)
lol
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>>8161808
Pynchon must be awsome as a grandpa