What's the difference between Continental and Analytical philosophy?
I've always had the impression that the former is just feels/opinions and general grandiose statements, whereas the latter is basically 'philosophy' on mathematical steroids; formalized, obsessed with language/semantics, and on occasion wielding equations/etc.
More to the point, which is best?
>>8161836
You've pretty much nailed how they operate. Which is better depends on where your interests lie. Analytics focus more on specific philosophical problems and you tend to find them working on problems in metaphysics, epistemology, logic, philosophy of language, phil of science, and so on. Continentals tend to focus heavily on the humanistic side of philosophy, concerned with ethics, aesthetics, history, ideology, etc. There is certainly crossover and often you may find them working on the same problems in different ways. Many take the distinction to be a historical anachronism at this point. But this is generally how it breaks down.
dude, A=A lmao so deep
>>8161836
Since I'm human and I have feelings as well as opinions and love the aesthetic grandeur of a grandiose statement, I'll go with continental philosophy.
More fulfilling.
I'll leave the autists with their silly approximations.
Faulkner hate thread
The Sound and the Fury is fucking unbearable with its pretentious vocabulary. Stream of consciousness be some retarded shit. Also the main character is literally retarded.
>>8161626
I just thought it was really boring and uneventful. it also wasn't hard. why do people say it's hard? I just wrote down characters names and there relations and it even goes into italics when the time changes. I wish it didn't. but yeah he's shit.
>>8161626
>Elder von Corncob
This guy needs to stick a corncob up his ass
Itt: books /lit/ underrates
>>8161157
Mein Kampf
Atlas Shrugged
Art of the Deal
Ride the Tiger
Turner Diaries
>>8161157
Sorry, you can't post that without dubs
Do you think that older textbooks were better written than modern textbooks? I think the style of older authors was more flowery than modern authors, who write in a very dull and straigthforward style.
>Obfuscation is good.
>Simplification is easy.
I like when textbooks didn't pull their punches. I always go for older textbooks when learning a subject, because the new ones are designed for spoiled homos who can't read more than 12 pages a day if it doesn't have pretty pictures.
>>8161040
Yes. Modern language education is directed towards average idiots who will never learn a language no matter what they do.
How can you tell whether or not a book is poorly written? People say pic related is written very well, and I can see how, but would not have been able to make that judgement on my own as I thought nothing of the writing as I was reading the book. People also say that A Song of Ice and Fire is poorly written, but again, unless I see a specific passage singled out to be bad, I wouldn't know if it was poorly written.
By paying attention and ignoring what people say. A lot of ASoIF is adequately, if unexceptionally, written; a lot of the Great Gatsby is poorly, however elaborately, written.
>>8160928
>The Great Gatsby is poorly written
Oh, come on
>>8160919
It's something you recognize immediately if you have any understanding of language. Someone will post that passage from one of the ASoIaF books about Dany shitting in the field. Look at that and you will understand what bad writing is.
Poor writing can also have to do with the plot, but that doesn't seem to be what you're talking about.
Do you rate this man lit? How much?
Rating art on a numerical scale is stupid.
But Kafka wrote some good stuff
He's slightly overrated IMO, but still very, very good.
Make sure you check out The Judgement.
You betcha I rate him!
I rate him apple out of vermin.
how do i make money writing?
>>8160416
applying for autismbux is about your best bet
blackmail notes.
>>8160416
kill yourself
are there any good books written by a black person?
a girl from my class called me out for not knowing a single one
>>8160294
yes
>>8160294
there's a chart somewhere.
I see it every once in a while when these threads come up
Black person as in black american? A person from africa? What about a latin american that happens to have dark skin? What the fuck did she even mean?
What are some examples of senseless death in tragic literature? I'm talking the on purpose killing of someone who turns the other cheek and loves their neighbor, has ren (humanitas), and perhaps most poignant of all, talent. From my understanding, most tragedy involves retribution, Richard III deserves it, etc. But reality has no shortage of senseless death.
From my limited understanding I can't really come up with any proper examples.
Ivan the Terrible killing his son for not beating his wife comes to mind. But it wasn't on purpose. Or was it? And the scene comes from history, so it's not really artifice. Reality strikes again. Fuck.
What I am looking for is a cross between this and the burning of the temple of Artemis.
Iphigenia is kind of like this, but had a very mechanical explanation, which keep it in bounds for tradition. Are these hard limits? Is it impossible to create a fiction sadder than the truth?
>>8160291
Pretty much all of Titus Andronicus.
Literally all of fiction because it was needlessly created for your enjoyment.
>>8160314
That's not a reason. I doubt they were thinking of me at all
What's the worst novel you've ever read?
>inb4 IJ
>inb4 meme shit you had no business reading anyway
>>8159686
book of disquiet
>>8159686
maybe Huxley's The Island
Probably asoiaf desu.
Or maybe the first half of ride the tiger where he pretends he understands philosophy. He should have just said feels>reals and saved 140/240 pages
Or Fahrenheit 451 fuck that turd
ITT: the marvels and wonders of self-published literature.
>>8159312
He's published more than you have friendo.
I'd say he's more qualified to talk about literature than 95% of this board at least.
>>8159312
I don't like to see non-whites published either.
>>8159345
>black
>more qualified to talk about literature than whites
You're on the wrong board, sweetheart.
Would you help me get into poetry please? I've been fascinated with poetry after reading a little bit of The Book of Disquiet. I like stuff that has that really dense poetic language, the metaphorical language. I remember writing my own poetry before, when I was very disturbed and going through depression, it was visual metaphors were coming out of my sub conscious mind and I didn't know what I was going to write, but I just wrote and I was amazed at what came out about 2 or 3 times in my life. I like that sort of poetry, which is very abstract. I'm also a big pessimist, love dark philosophical stuff, horror, but I also love beauty, extreme beauty. Idk if prose poetry would necessarily always be better, but I have yet to find any of that rhyme and meter poetry that really sounded good to me.
Read the motherfucking sticky
>>8151147
Yeah, there's a poetry chart, but it tells me nothing about what I might like. I am also a big book buyer, I often buy a book or two that's recommended to me every time I make a thread on this forum.
>>8151151
>regularly making rec begging threads
looks like it's time to commit suicide
I saw this on a list of right wing books. I was literally about to but it before hand but now I'm not sure I even want it. Is it still worth getting? I hate the right wing.
the only good poems which he wrote it's those about jelicle cats and pollicle dogs
>>8164185
Yes it is totally worth getting, just skip the shorter poems and read prufrock and the waste land along with a couple of the others. The ones about Sweeney are pretty anti-semitic, so skip them too, if you really are that afraid of the right wing.
Although, surely if you hate the right wing wouldn't you want to read the right-wing poems to 'know your enemy.' You can't really hate a whole political ideology but not read the literature. If you hated religion you wouldn't not read The Bible or The Koran would you?
I say buy it and read all the poems.
>>8164185
Is that the chart which has Blake there lmao? That one's trash.
Eliot is not really concerned with politics in his poetry. He's never didactic. His aesthetic is conservative, but in an abstract civilisational way.
I can't say what you'd like or not, but considering Eliot is probably the most-read English poet of the 20th century, millions of people who aren't right-wing are able to perfectly enjoy his poetry.
> #bookz on irc
> no bots reply to you
> hundreds of people filing past looking for the Hunger Games novels
> give up
> avaxhome 404s
> find Mobilism
> half the links bring up virus alerts with Avast
> the other half deliver broken .zip archives
i thought nobody gave a shit about book piracy.
>>8164173
I get most of my books from gen.lib.rus. ec
Have you considered using an adblocker?
Many of the oneclick hosters on mobilism are still shit with an adblocker, except maybe zippyshare which doesn't hide the download button in a million other download buttons.
I miss megaupload.
(kat.cr sometimes works well for me too - gen.lib.whatever recently has several broken mirrors for each book, only [1] works but is slow)
>>8164214
i use ublock origin, but i'm not worried about the buttons not working; i'm worried about the fuckers sneaking malware through just because i clicked on a shitty link.
>>8164204
>I get most of my books from gen.lib.rus. ec
> searches for bruce sterling
> twenty thousand results from guys named bruce or sterling
> searches for "bruce sterling"
> two dozen results, most in italian
> searches for "bruce sterling" english
> search engine shits itself
i guess you get what you pay for, except last time i tried to buy ebooks online i got "we don't sell ebooks outside the US" from six different places, including amazon
Hey, /lit/.
I need your help. I'm translating something and I'm a bit lost with a phrase:
"Do my own thing
Came as far as saw me"
It's a line from a song, but I don't understand what "Came as far as saw me" means.
Any help?
Thanks a million, boys.
>>8164021
it's nonsense
are you sure you translated right?
>>8164037
The original line is in English and it's that one, "Came as far as saw me". I'm trying to translate it into my language.
I've found some links that might shed some light:
http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/have-you-come-far.2633419/
https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110511050630AAAABw8
But I'm still lost.
>>8164039
Can you post the song? Context might help.