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writers of lit, what is your major motivation to write? also, do you have your readers in mind as you write, even if the reader is just yourself, or you just let your mind come through your pen/keyboard?
i think i do it to one day read the book ive never found and that would answer all my questions.
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where are you all? writing?
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>>8237048
>Motivation to write? Self-expression and posterity.
>Readers in mind? Not much. I just craft my writing as I see best. If you keep readers in mind too much you run the risk of losing your individuality.
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>>8237048
Suck a dick, t b h. If this is a question you have to ask then just shouldn't be here.
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Why must a protagonist be likable?
I feel most comfortable writing entitled characters who get laid low by dangerous situations.
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>>8236962
nobody said they had to be
lots of canon literature has unlikeable protagonists. hamlet, catcher in the rye, the list could go on
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>>8236962
This is where an engaging story comes in handy.
I hated the Talented Mr Ripley, but I kept watching to see him get caught. Disappointment he didn't, but it was still well written enough.
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>>8237008
>I hated the Talented Mr Ripley, but I kept watching to see him get caught. Disappointment he didn't, but it was still well written enough.
of course the fake butterfly watches the movies of highsmith.
stop half assing the bookish dyke part if you want to pretend to be our dead gf.
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books about gluttony?
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Bump, I read some texts about it when I was in highschool, I believe one of them was a extract from "Les caractères" from La Bruyère. We actually did a while chapter on this topic, but I don't seem to remember very well.
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>>8238080
strong kek
Are there any other historians as incredibly good at writing as Will Durant?
Also: thoughts on pic related? In love with it atm.
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2016-07-03 19:50:30
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>>8236933 (OP)
Gibbons.
Hobsbawm
And you might also like Fernand Braudel
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>>8236933
Trotsky
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He's okay but it's pretty obvious that this is an older book. He has the same wrong opinions that were common in the earlier parts of the last century. Reading his entry of Nietzsche is every bit as wrong and misleading as Russel's.
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What is better: To fully and whole-heartedly embrace our animalistic/humanistic instincts, or to attempt to transcend them?
Or is it possible to do both at the same time?
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2016-07-03 19:15:41
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>>8236871
Yes Doing both is transcendence and balance.
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>>8236871
transcend by embracing them
embrace them by transcending them
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Where's the best place to start with Henry James? How much of his work is worth reading?
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>>8236822
Try reading the one that interests you the most and see if you like it.
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>>8236822
Portrait of a Lady.
Stay away from his early stuff.
His later novels (Golden Bowl, Ambassadors, Wings of the Dove) are only worth reading if you can stand them, you'd have to be a college-level reader, I'd say. If you can't stand them, it'd probably be good to come back to them eventually when you're a more "advanced reader", so to speak.
Daisy Miller is a great short read you can read in a day and worth reading any time you like.
His short stories I guess can be read any time you like, A Turn of the Screw clearly being his most famous and probably best from what I've read so far of him.
Have fun (or don't, it's up to you)!
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>>8236867
>you'd have to be a college-level reader, I'd say
I'm 25 and have been reading literature seriously for 10 years now, I just haven't gotten to Henry James.
Why should I avoid his early stuff?
Why does /lit/ care more about the quality of the prose, than the actual content itself?
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Prose is content you red rocket addict
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>>8236801
For the same reason that I know you read Brandon Sanderson and Patrick Rothfus.
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>>8236810
I mean why more about the prose than the plot, character development etc.
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Why isn't Asimov even mentioned around here?
Isn't he a meme here too?
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"Good ideas, bad prose"
-/lit/ on Asimov
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we mostly talk literary fiction
the sci-fi people stick to their own threads
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2016-07-03 19:01:14
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>>8236797
>I've been here for hours, and there's still no mention of Asimov
Isn't there a sf general up? Ask them what you should think
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Who are his influences?
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Borges
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>>8236766
http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/bio/influences.html
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>>8236766
weed, shrooms, alcohol, the list goes on
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The usage "based off the book" (instead of the older and, to me at least, clearer usage "based on the book") has made its way from casual speech to appear in an online NPR article. I've come to you, /lit/, to get your opinion on this. This usage, which I had always associated with less intelligent, less well-read people, has now become mainstream and acceptable; indeed there are people who look at me funny when I say "based on." Is this just part of the natural, inevitable evolution of language? Am I a foolish elitist for fighting it? It might not bother me except that it makes English less clear--"based on" produces a mental image of one thing being supported by another, while "based off" does not. I know language is not a logical thing, but shouldn't we keep in mind Wittgenstein: "Everything that can be said can be said clearly."
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>>8236719
what is descriptive usage?
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Does anyone here even like reading? I just do it to not look like a pleb.
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>>8236681
kys
You don't have to look or pretend to be anything. If you don't like reading, stop reading.
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2016-07-03 18:36:38
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>>8236681
I lov it!
Reading is just so scrumptious.
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>some nobel laureate jew who wrote about Auschwitz dies and /lit/ doesn't speak a word about him
Sure is comfy in here.
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>>8236661
He was 87. It was bound to happen some day.
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Who are you quoting?
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>>8236661
You mean the compulsive liar?
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How do I into screenwriting?
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>>8236636
Be related to someone with actual talent, then take expensive Hollywood courses that teach you how to be a hack. Source: producer.
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>>8236636
Make shit scripts and know people
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Meet people first...
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Which should I read first?
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The Hermenutics of Sailing — Paul Butfield
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You should read Catch 22 first. Then you should read Moby Dick. Then you should punch yourself for even considering reading Brave New World.
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Moby Dick is the best
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Recite the best poem in the world
Or i'll eat your souls
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I hate reading out loud. My thinking voice is much better than my speaking voice.
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Of Mans first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree, whose mortal taste...
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>>8236477
I got broads in Atlanta
Twistin' dope, lean, and the Fanta
Credit cards and the scammers
Hittin' off licks in the bando
Black X6, Phantom
White X6 looks like a panda
Goin' out like I'm Montana
Hundred killers, hundred hammers
Black X6, Phantom
White X6, panda
Pockets swole, Danny
Sellin' bar, candy
Man I'm the macho like Randy
The choppa go Oscar for Grammy
Bitch nigga pull up ya panty
Hope you killas understand me