hey i/lit/erates.
I was wondering if there was such a thing as formulas for good stories?
I know about tropes, and I know characters are the most important thing not as much as the story itself but I know there are character types also.
how can I make interesting stories? interesting characters? I want to make a romance webcomic and I can make good looking art already. I just need to read about how to make good stories.
what do you recommend? especially for comedy/drama/romance stories
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Look up The Golden Bough, Hero with a thousand faces, morphology of the fairytale and I don't know, pretty much any given guide to writing.
They're all useless though. If you try following formulas and guides, you'll just end up with formulaic shite. Just learn to write what you intuitively know is good.
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The Art of Storytelling
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/the-art-of-storytelling-from-parents-to-professionals.html
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>his son, Jackson Pynchon,
>Jackson Pynchon
Did he go too far?
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>>8237936
Jackson was his wife's maiden name.
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It's amazing that he's been able to hide his appearance for so long. Even in this current age of information and surveillance. I'm impressed by it.
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>>8237980
It would be different if he were not in literature.
Greg Egan is another author who wants his face to stay unknown and he succeeded by asking nicely: http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/images/GregEgan.htm
He also has the best homepage
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>when you finish a good book and you realize you're back in the real world
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>>8237915
>when you smell straight man poo
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>>8237983
inb4 angry marxists
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Is Google right?
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>>8237808
Maybe
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>50% females
And who said women can't write?
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>>8237863
Literally no one
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>tfw when there is a shitty movie based on a great novel you read.
I dunno it sorta feels like the book is now somehow cheapened by the garbage hollywood movie. I'm looking at you Anna Karenina
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>>8237793
Oh, hey. Sucks for you.
Delete your thread. It cheapens the board.
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The last AK movie had its moments, admit it. Those lengthy shots were pretty fun, and the actors were good.
Anyway, nah, this doesn't happen to me. I simply suppress the bad adaptations.
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>>8237797
>tripfag
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Have any of you read the Book of the New Sun? What did you think of it?
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I read it this year. I enjoyed Shadow of the Torturer the most. Overall, the series was an enjoyable read, though there were many words I had to look up along the way.
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A favorite between the ages of 18 and 24, and thereafter.
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I liked it a whole lot, so much so I went back and read all of it a second time. Its pretty impressive how subtle Gene was about dropping hints about future plot points.
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What is the pic related of literature?
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Some how-to manual from the 80s.
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>>8237789
Why? Is it a how-to be moral and make friends?
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at least post good indieshit
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hey /lit/ writfag here. normally I'm a novelist by trade but recently I have gotten married to an artist and we want to make our own comic, how would one go about starting that? any tips in general?
>pic related
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Murder-suicide.
Either way. Though, I imagine she will be the one shooting.
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>>8237709
also i can bump with more art if anyone is interested
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>>8237709
Suck his dick and dribble the cum onto a page. Then put speech bubbles next to the dried-up cumstains.
Call it postmodern.
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Why does /lit/ never speak about Gogol? Is he not patrician?
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dostoy and tolstoy are the only russians people read and even then war and le peace is the only of tolstoys.
All other russians do not exist, i repeat they don't exist.
le dead souls doesn't count considering it's just as memed as infinite jest on here.
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I read that one thing with the nose and that was pretty cool I guess
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>>8237672
He's patrician. The Nose is one of the greatest short stories ever written.
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Should I read this?
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Did you just make a fake penguin cover to post here?
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>>8237676
well that's what it is to be /lit/
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what the fuck is wrong with you OP
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Literary Debate Thread:
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Not an argument.
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I won.
...I spent too much of my youth enraptured by alchemical texts and hermetic literature...
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>>8237633
we've all been there
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>>8237633
>33
Nice dubs
Totality: the unconscious and conscious joined
...purity and liberation...
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Theres nothing hermetic about a slut with an ourabous tattoo, thats normie as fuck
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We make fun of fanfiction because most of it is legitimately terrible. However, isn't fanfiction as a medium a legitimate response to modern copyright law?
For most of the history of literature, nobody could claim exclusive ownership of the stories they wrote, the concepts they developed, or the characters they created. This meant that most authors were poor as shit. However, it also meant that those stories, concepts, and characters could freely be taken up and reexamined by different authors, not to mention by artists, playwrights, and musicians. Consider the Arthurian legends. Chretien de Troyes, Wolfram von Eschenbach, Thomas Mallory, and others all took their turns writing these characters. Whoever was the original 'inventor' of the characters and stories and themes in the Arthur cycle couldn't lay a formal claim on them, and as a result we got multiple masterpieces of Western literature.
It even still goes on today with characters in the public domain. Consider all the different interpretations of Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, Cinderella, and others. Some of them are bad, but some of them are good, and we wouldn't be getting any of them if those characters and stories weren't free for use by all.
Copyright of stories and characters and concepts enriches authors, but I wonder if it doesn't make Western literature poorer. Does it deny future writers access to things with which they could create their own masterpieces? And looked at that way, is fanfiction such a bad thing? Sure, we're always talking about the need to tell original stories, but there's got to be room for retellings and borrowing in the future, right? It's such an important staple of Western literature that I worry what will happen to us without it. And if writers can't do it 'officially,' we're stuck with fanfiction, for good or ill.
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>>8237601
Yes.
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>demeaning the artistic merit of fanfiction
Fanfiction is the literal manifestation of the New Sincerity movement.
hi female/uk here I really need help with my religious studies homework to research and explain some words it's pretty easy my kik is @lynchednigger if you're interested
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>>8237600
The memes feel like they're getting more subtle, but they still seem painfully obvious
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Why didn't he just make Scientology a sci-fi novel?
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>>8237589
because of the IRS
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He just made it a long one, with cos-play.
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>>8237589
Because he knew starting a cult was a better way to rip off pathetic fags and mindless bimbos who'd fork over their cash to anyone with a modicum of charisma. Other than a few hiccups, you really can't argue with the results either.