What Canadian works of literature have you been reading recently?
do people actually look into the nationality of the authors of their books? jesus
>>8238805
generally yes
its not that important but whats the harm of having a themed thread
>>8238801
I've always wondered, why does the fagbow have six colors instead of seven? Any story behind this?
Seriously, why is Macbeth such a dick?
Ambition. Lady Macbeth doesn't help.
>reading for plot
>>8238789
I imagine the combination of mental illness and being a blue blood does quite a number on someone. I mean just look at Elliot Rodger, he shot up a sorority house and he wasn't even noble, just was just rich and crazy.
Writings.
>>Hurts others for their own gain
>>Unfairly viewed
Okay
>>8233069
Implying anyone really makes a choice. If a person is governed by their biology, and they don't feel that hurting people is wrong, doesn't that mean that they lack the ability to feel that hurting people is wrong? How can you say that a person has a choice in anything, how can you say that having a choice determines whether or not someone deserves to be punished or chastised? It doesn't, and this is one of the reasons why our society as a whole can barely cope with our own existence, is because of this pervasive self righteousness.
>>8233078
There is a difference between perceived self righteousness (Held equally by the SJWs and the religious right) and what is actually right.
What is right and moral, is just the "the golden rule".
Do you want to be raped? No.
Do you want your belongings taken? No.
Do you want to be murdered? No.
Do you want you child to be molested or for you to have been molested as a child? Fuck no
Doing these shows a weakness of character and of self restraint, and they deserve to be treated as the worst of our kind, because they are.
What are the best books about gay or bi people? Preferably contemporary, but stuff about Uranians or even the Greeks is welcome.
Suicide by You
>>8232708
The Picture Of Dorian Gray.
>>8232708
lmao my God America sucks balls.
unironically why did he take 17 years off
What did Coca-Cola™ mean by this?
Work. Raise kids. Write. Watch cartoons. Travel.
#wow
#woah
he was a fuckin qt i tell ya what
Sup /lit/, I'm a newfag at this board, someone recommend /lit/ approved books i should start reading?
>>8241724
o shit sorry
i never read stickies
>>8241726
the wiki's better than most anons for recommendation charts.
don't bother reading /lit/ itself if you want books, it's just niggers who couldn't be fucked to read the sticky either.
Rate my writing
0/10. Your writing is too small. I can't discern it.
>>8241563
Beautifully written and crafted, like a game of chess.
Nonetheless, none of it will ever happen.
All the self-congratulation and "insider speak" of Tom Clancy, and with about as many hard facts involved.
Why is most science fiction written by doddering old men that hate progress?
bc paraliterature gives anyone w a fetish for modernity (old (white) men)) an opportunity for alternate worlds where something impossible can apologize for them confessionally through violence
>>8241475
>Race wasn't even mentioned in OP
>Immediately go to raceb8ing
nice
>>8241475
>immediately blames old white men
>mfw
So I started reading infinite jest, and I love it so far. This is a general thread about discussing said bookand also shitposting.
I'm only on page 80 however, so make sure to spoiler ANY plot points as I consider most things spoilers.there is also a thread on s4s for ultra-shitposting
Happy interdependence day!
I'm on page 442, and I had been enjoying it. That film description is pretty fun.
What did Harper Collins mean by this?
pol pls go
Yeah, I saw Air Force One on TV today too, OP.
I've been wanting to read Madame Bovary for a long time but I can't figure out which translation to read. What's the best English version of the novel?
I know the Lydia Davis is very popular, but it got torn apart in this review:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v32/n22/julian-barnes/writers-writer-and-writers-writers-writer
>After Emma’s seduction by Rodolphe, there is a paragraph describing her post-coital, semi-pantheistic experience of the forest surrounding her, with which she is for the moment in harmony. But with the last sentence, Flaubert cuts this mood brutally: ‘Rodolphe, le cigare aux dents, raccommodait avec son canif une des deux brides cassée.’ This great anti-romantic moment has Rodolphe turning both to another physical pleasure (as Gurov will with his watermelon in Chekhov’s ‘The Lady with the Little Dog’), and to masculine, practical matters. All the versions cited here begin, unsurprisingly, with ‘Rodolphe, a cigar between his teeth . . .’
>Wall goes on:
>was mending one of the two broken reins with his little knife.
>Steegmuller:
>was mending a broken bridle with his penknife.
>Hopkins:
>was busy with his knife, mending a break in one of the bridles.
>Davis:
>was mending with his penknife one of the bridles, which had broken.
>Rein or bridle? Knife, little knife or penknife? The difference is slight; all the versions contain the same information. Flaubert’s sentence does its business by not drawing attention to itself; its very downbeatness is the point, after the more rhapsodic prose that has preceded it. Wall, Steegmuller and Hopkins all get this. Davis doesn’t. Instead, she ‘faithfully’ sticks to Flaubert’s sentence structure. But English grammar is not French grammar, and so the quiet cassée (which for all its quietness also hints at Rodolphe’s ‘breaking’ of Emma) has to be unpacked into a ‘which had broken’ – a phrase which now seems pretty redundant, as what would he mend that wasn’t broken? The sentence has a clunkiness which is imported, rather than faithfully transmitted, and quite unFlaubertian.
Bump. So I'm thinking of reading the Adam Thorpe translation.
Here's an example.
>Donc, elle reporta sur lui seul la haine nombreuse qui résultait de ses ennuis, et chaque effort pour l'amoindrir ne servait qu'àl'augmenter; car cette peine inutile s'ajoutait aux autres motifs de désespoir et contribuait encore plus à l'écartement. Sa propre douceur à elle-même lui donnait des rébellions.
This is an accounting metaphor.
Here's Marx, missing it:
>On him alone, then, she concentrated all the various hatreds that resulted from her boredom, and every effort to diminish only augmented it; for this useless trouble was added to the other reasons for despair, and contributed still more to the separation between them. Her own gentleness to herself made her rebel against him.
Here's Thorpe:
>So she carried over to him alone the sum of hatred which resulted from her vexation, and each effort to lessen it merely served to increase it; for this needless pain would be added to other counts of despair and contribute even further to the separation.
David misses it:
>And so she directed at him alone the manifold hatred born of her troubles, and every attempt she made to lessen that hatred only increased it; for her useless effort gave her yet another reason for despair and contributed even more to her estrangement from him.
>>8241306
It doesn't matter because the book is irredeemable shit
>>8241446
Que voulait-il dire par là?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RCFLobfqcw
That was a lot of bullshit
Could you ever be romantically involved with a woman that read plebshit like pic related.
I'm currently romantically involved with a woman who reads plebshit and patricianshit so I guess yes.
>>8241295
Why does she read the trashier books? Is it for a quick light read?
>>8241276
>tfw slowly influencing my gf to read more patrician books
Do contemporary writers still write short stories? Was the popularity of short stories tied to literary journals and magazines?
Well, if you read magazines, you would know that they do, all the time.
>I’ve only ever read one Stephen King book. That’s the one set in the hotel—The Shining—with the boy who has the second-sight. And the thing that struck me instantly, about 80 pages in, is I realized that the hotel is alive, that it contains the psychic memory of all the people who’ve died there, committed suicide there, done something destructive there, that the building is sort of seething with dark and negative energy, that it will take some of the characters over and destroy them, and that it will be the result, and probably it will blow up at the end. I suddenly realized “I’ve got to page 80,” because actually it’s 460 before you actually get to that moment. And it came to my mind that King is extending a short story out across 500 pages because his editor has told him “You’ve got to have a novel length, not a short story,”
from Jonathan Bowden's lecture on H.P. Lovecraft.
Is it okay to say i "read" a book when I really only listened to the audiobook?
i have about 20 hours a week of work where i can listen to anything I want, but i also want to cheat and be literate
have you done this?
>>8241085
No because you didn't "read" it. You listened to it, so you tell people that you listened to the audiobook. Of course you can do whatever you want, you can read the sparknotes of meme books and tell people you read those too.
no its not okay. dissociate yourself from people who would care about you saying you listened to an audiobook, and dissociate yourself from this compulsion to paint a face that isnt really you
>>8241093
I agree with this
I would disagree with the emphasis, to kvetch about sitting or lying down and staring a stack of paper to listening to someone talk, of reading of paper books over all other mediums beyond the significance of the personal preference to the reader.