What are some pieces of fiction that are concerned with a fictional work of literature, i.e. The King in Yellow?
>>8246663
Pale Fire
>>8246663
2666
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Lots of Borges
>>8246663
The Recognitions
The New York Trilogy
Pale Fire
I'm looking to learn Latin and I can't decide whether to get Latin Via Ovid, with the workbook or Wheelock's Latin. I hear that Wheelock's is good for learning grammar and syntax, but I hear Wheelock's approach is more like solving a puzzle.
Anyways, any suggestions?
I'm curious: can you learn Latin in an American highschool?
>>8246642
Never heard of the Ovid text, heard exactly what you did about Wheelock and didn't like the sound of it.
I started Latin about a month ago, so I can't speak from any expertise, but can share my experience so far. I've been using Lingua Latina alongside Collar's "Beginner's Latin Book" (published 1891, free pdf online) and have found the process to be pretty rewarding.
Lingua is entirely in Latin and sort of forces you to "think" in Latin, and if you reread chapters (I do each one three times), grammar and vocab really start sticking, especially if you do some occasional note-taking on the side to nail down declensions and the like.
Collar's text is basically the opposite of Lingua: Very old school, introducing one grammar rule at a time and then throwing a ton of exercises at you. For example, one of the earliest chapters is the first noun declension, followed by ~150 exercises using what you just learned, to really beat it into you.
Frankly I think both styles are valuable, and considering the overlap in content, as they're both intro books, I often find material in one book that I've already been heavily exposed to in the other, but both texts still teach and challenge me daily; Lingua is more creative with sentences and is more fluid and conversational, while Collar throws more complex grammar at you from the beginning and doesn't let up.
As another example, Lingua's first verb conjugation chapter introduces you to only the present indicative forms of all regular verb stems. Collar's first conjugation chapter introduces you to all the forms of a single verb stem (indicative present, imperfect, future, perfect, pluperfect, future perfect; imperative preset, future; infinitive, etc.).
I just checked out Latin via Ovid and it seems like a cool text similar to Lingua Latina, but I'm not sure exactly how they compare. Worth looking into both, I'd say.
Hope that helped!
>>8246642
Use both and lingua latina per se illustrata, also take a look at Ritchies "fabulas faciles" for easy, early reading practice.
Post books that changed your plans for your life and why.
I wanted to get married before this. I might still but its not a goal
>and why
jesus christ op answer your own prompt
>>8246593
why that book might change his opinion of marriage is pretty obvious
>>8246593
Sorry I forgot
Stoner's wife made me contemplate the hellish possibilities of married life in a way that permanently soured my perception of the concept of marriage, no matter how uncommon his situation may be
Does anybody have short stories or novellas written by women that aren't trite? I have to crank out a short but meaningful personal response to a piece of literature specifically written by a woman and I cannot for the life of me find any that speak to me at all. To be specific, I relate well to books which have some kind of allegorical statement to be made, something which I have found sorely lacking in female literature. Books like Lord of the Flies, Animal Farm, Brave new world and Nineteen Eighty Four are what I mean.
Pic unrelated
>inb4 your taste is meme tier
>inb4 read the sticky
>>8246556
La Princesse de Cleves
>Books like Lord of the Flies, Animal Farm, Brave new world and Nineteen Eighty Four
holy shit taste
>>8246556
I want to say Flannery O'Connor but you might not like her because you're taste is awfully juvenile
I realize this is a fiction, but I must ask this fiction, what the hell are you even doing in school? You have no business reading literature at all, really. You should be out ploughing the fields or picking up garbage. Learning is not for those of your type. Which is fine, but as it is you are perpetrating an abomination.
Dearest /lit/ - Literature,
I would like to be a proper gentleman. I would have this be my mask in social interactions my lessers -- everyone.
How do I arrive at this juncture? No jokes, if you please.
With glimmering condolences,
Sir Francis Y. Intelligence, my gentleman name
Post Script: I am asking you because you are the most cultured board, by far, and I believe if I read the right books I may be turnt upon the right path to gentlemandom.
OP,
You faggot, if you want to be a gentleman all you need do is to be born into the gentry. If you have not achieved this, then it is not your birthright, and you shall have to marry in, like the uncouth grasper that you are.
Cheers,
R. Hon. Biffo T Bear Esq.
PS You might quite enjoy PG Wodehouse
>>8246502
Holy fucking shit, please remove yourself from this board and website right now, if you are serious.
I wager that you´ll find some nice and supportive people on this cool website called Reddit, maybe you wanna visit them someday?If troll, I give it a 7/10
>>8246502
be as degenerate as possible
be rich
congrats your an earl
Is it better to be well read, widely read, or deeply read?
To define:
>well read
Extensive but selective, almost exclusively of established canonical authors. Only the most regarded writers of fiction, poetry, philosophy, etc. Reads at good pace, occasional notetaking.
>widely read
Picking up anything they can get their hands on from any century almost regardless if it's widely acclaimed or hidden and obscure. Near constant rapid reading.
>deeply read
Consistently reading and rereading only a handful of fiction authors, poets, playwrights, or philosophers and getting to know them inside and out. Memorizes. Reads slowly and astutely, near always writing while reading.
your definitions are fucktarded and demonstrate a very low set of standards even for the categories you are trying to elevate.
>>8246486
It's better to just read whatever the fuck you want and stop being autistic over it.
I'm "widely read," but that doesn't mean I haven't followed your other modes at times. This seems like an artificial categorization.
Just finished this, first Kafka work I've ever read and really enjoyed it. Considering just jumping straight to another one of his books which I never do after first reading an author.
Did I fuck up reading the Stanley Corngold translation? Seemed well done to me but I know fuck all about German. Which translations should I be looking out for his other books? I'm limited to the kindle store so bare with me.
Also, anyone have that Kafka chart?
Read more short stories. The Judgement is the best.
>>8246402
Is there a complete short story collection?
Also am I the only one who pictured Gregor more like a mirelurk without claws rather an a roach?
What are some good books about national sovereignty? Like what responsibilities a nation has in regards to its neighbors and the rest of the world, that sort of thing.
>>8246350
just take the redpill really
>asking about national sovereignty
>responsibilities in regards to its neighbors and the rest of the world
Are you retarded? Sovereignty deals with the responsability as nation and its people have first and foremost with itself, not the rest of the world. You wouldn't know this obviously, you lost your power as a citizen of a nation to a bunch of corporate fucks that only want money and went to believe that power and freedom is measured in how you can oppress others better.
Idk OP, but not Hobbes that's for damn sure
Hi guys I'm stuck in a shitty job that pays pennies. I want to apply to a postdoc position in hispanic studies but I have to submit a research proposal. Is there any good model/sample I can follow?Please help
Please help!!!
When choosing a reseach plan it's essential that the subject exites and interests you personally. For that reason i can't help you
please don't pays penis
thoughts?
some good shit right there. Been thinking about re-reading it lately and going for the rest of the series. The protagonist reminds me of my parents
>>8246271
Well, well worth it. Updike is a fantastic writer. You just get more attached to the characters as you go along, especially to Rabbit's bastardly ways. It's just an American novel/series in every sense of the word. Fuckin' love it. In the Beauty of the Lilies is also very good. And his essays. Haven't read much of his other stuff. Some stories, which a lot of people think are his best stuff.
Good but uninteresting.
Hi /lit, first of all apologize for my bad english, in my school ive been asked to write a thesis about the truth for my philosophy class, i havent thought a lot about this topic so i wanted to read some books or text about the topic so i can form my own idea, ill be so greateful if you guys could help me recommending me some, thank you :)
>>8246238
start with the greeks
>>8246249
Yeah i heard Apology of socrates by plato spoke about the topic, i just started reading it, any other specific book or author? ty
>>8246238
We might be in the same class. Let me guess... somewhere in Australia?
Are Medieval Philosophers underrated, or its just me? I dont see Medieval Philosophy and Literature being discussed very much, compared with the Greeks and Late XIXth- Early XXth centuries.
Also, thread about Medieval lit. Any recommendations?
Try again on the weekend
Depends on where you're studying.
For med lit, read Chaucer in original language.
>>8246826
Why?
Arent there Medieval /lit/ charts to post?
Did you laught whith this shit? I just read it and was not funny
Never post here again.
>implying the part where the sinners swim through the lava like dolphins and when trying to rest on the shore, get pushed back in by imps with spears, wasn't absolutely hilarious
>>8246123
Whoa the sticky moves Whoa
could you imagine wasting 7 years of your life on THIS
Pynchons my fav writer for sure because my fav thing in books is goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior, and his books are full to the brim of it. Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book & POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! and then you think hmmm whats he gonna do next, this trickster, and you pick the book back up and BZZZZZZZZZZ you get a shock and Hahahahahah you've been pranked again by the old pynchmeister, that card. "Did that Pynch?" he says, laughing yukyukyukyuk. Watch him as he shoves a pair of plastic buck teeth right up into his mouth and displays em for you- left, right, center- "you like dese? Do i look handsome???" Pulls out a mirror. "Ah!" Hand to naughty mouth. And you're on your ass again laughing as he snaps his suspenders, exits stage right, and appears again hauling a huge golden gong.
>>8246121
>7 years
No, because the only people who actually bother to read anything written by Pynchon are pseudfags who aren't actually casual readers, which is why it is commonly heard that it takes 7 years to read a book such as the one you listed.
>>8246133
pynchon took 7 years to write you fucking dumb moron
Write what's on your mind, and no memes, please
this is either the most brilliant or most idiotic work in the history of art but I can't decide which.
The cat
Just Sat
On the mat
>>8246134
most brilliant, but likely not for the reasons you think