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What is the best edition of Ulysses out there now?
I was thinking about getting either this one:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/0679722769/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Or this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Ulysses-Oxford-Worlds-Classics-James/dp/0199535671
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>>8245523
Pretty sure the words in 'em are the same.
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>>8245523
I am currently reading the 1922 text. It's my first time reading Ulysses though so I have nothing to compare it to. I've enjoyed it so far though, if that helps a little bit. There are plenty of footnotes.
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>>8245523
Gabler or bust.
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Rejecting the human condition: 2016-07-05 20:25:29 Post No.8244992
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Rejecting the human condition:
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Is there any author or philosopher/thinker who has written with the idea or notion of willfully and deliberately rejecting the human condition due to its repulsiveness.
Here I shall define what I mean by "the human condition" and "repulsiveness":
By the human condition I primarily (but not exclusively) mean the lack of any meaning or purpose and yet being stuck in a perpetual state of activity and will driven partly be inescapable primitive wants and needs and partly by whatever narrow worldview we adopt over our lives. How disgusting and utterly loathsome it is to someone who feels compelled to seek out companionship while knowing that he might not get it. That we debase ourselves to ensure that our wants/needs/spooks go satisfied.
Did anyone ever write about rebelling against this slavery? The slavery of the human condition which restricts us to our despicable selves? I know there are a lot out there who think of themselves as splendid beautiful beings but they haven't seen their natural state: one that exists without distractions that bring happiness or pride or confidence which are things that blind us and take away our self awareness and lucidity.
I feel that in the absence of any clear purpose or meaning to anything, the only thing that one can do is feel repulsed at one's state and then choose to rebel against it by rejecting the human condition. Only then can one rise above the human condition. But what would such a rejection look like? I feel that the only answer would be suicide.
Please tell me if there's anyone else who had any similar ideas.
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This is Absurdism.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Absurdism
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Nowhere in absurdism does it talk about one's repulsion to the human condition and the rejection of it through suicide.
Camus attempts to argue against suicide but fails spectacularly. He poses the correct question : "does absurdism dictate suicide?" but never really commits to giving an answer to it because he believes that life can be made worth living and he believes in other spooks like freedom and passion. A more realistic/pragmatic person would not see "freedom" but would see slavery to the human condition and the ugliness of it. The repulsion to that ugliness and the need to break free from it after becoming aware of it would drive one to suicide as a consequence. Free from a horrible, abject existence.
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The ugliness of slavery to the human form/condition becomes apparent only to those who are self aware and only those who aren't distracted with any happiness can see things for what they really are. See things in their natural state.
Consider a man without much. He begins to need and want food, water, companionship, love, affection, tools, knowledge, entertainment, sleep. All he does is want and need. He becomes aware of these needs and becomes aware of his state and the things he is willing to do to obtain or satisfy these needs. He will realize that he is nothing more than just these needs and wants and that his entire volition is driven by them and in the absence of any greater purpose, he can do nothing but cave in to these needs.
OR in the ultimate act of rebellion against this state, he could commit suicide.
What was /lit/ like during high school? Were you the patrician valedictorian, or maybe a degenerate dropout? Did you have an interest in literature, or did that only come later in life?
I was an edgy neckbeard who went out of his way to criticize the Bush administration in social studies class whenever possible. I had long, greasy hair, wore punk/metal band t-shirts every day, and am pretty sure many of my classmates suspected me of being a potential school shooter. In terms of literature I read lots of Lovecraft and other classic horror, beat poetry, and comic books. I wasn't at the top of my class or anything, but I did well enough be an ap student and receive praise from my English and social studies teachers.
What about you???
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I was the friendless loser girl, "good girl"/teacher's pet stereotype who spent all time in the library during lunch rather than in the cafeteria, hoping a qt boy would approach me because of my patrician taste in literature (which never happened, of course). I just wanted to find my Sartre and be someone's Castor.
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I was the quiet loser that a bunch of people thought was mysterious or deep since I was also relatively attractive.
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>that a bunch of people thought was mysterious or deep
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So I found out there's a writing club at my college. Here's a vid they shot promoting the club:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAJaQt1Ol_0
They are having a meeting tomorrow, should I go /lit/?
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>>8244243
No, stay at home and write.
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>>8244252
but, other people, who write and stuff...
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>>8244243
>that nigger who barely caught the book
also yeah OP you should totes go if you wanna hear memewords like "flow" and "mantra" and have people read off some ebin instagram quotes about life
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What did you study in university and where did you end up?
I have a biochem degree. Finished 2 years ago. Can't say I ever had a passionate interest in it, or much interest at all. I just thought it could be financially beneficial. Right now I do data entry, like most failed STEMfags, but at an accounting firm. Lately I've been interested in linguistics, and literature -- So I'm very interested to see what people in those fields do for work.
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Did a Bsc in Physiotherapy
I am now a physiotherapist
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>>8243941
Got my BA in Linguistics. Got TESL/TOEFL certified. I teach in Japan now.
If you want money, then study Computational Linguistics
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>>8243941
Philosophy and English.
I'm a teacher at an upper secondary school.
>Decent pay
>Few hours in the classroom
>Students responsible for their own learning
>Long as shit holidays
>Job security
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What the fuck am I supposed to think /lit/? I just recently started to step up my reading game to stuff like slaughterhouse five, but the whole meme scene eludes me. Is infinite jest a legitimately good novel? I have no idea what I'm doing and need a guiding hand.
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Dear god please help
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>>8243416
You're supposed to think for yourself. But I will make a suggestion, and that is to disregard Infinite Jest on the basis that there are many more worthy books than that piece of overlong doggerel. The veneration of it is a practical joke.
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>>8243424
God can't help you now.
i always peek at the last page when i start a book
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i don't read
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what's a book
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>>8243284
I always tell myself that it's just to check and see how many pages are in the book, but I almost always read the last sentence "on accident."
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Early Computing Age Aestthetics
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I'd ask /g/ for this, but i dont think they know or care. I'm writing a cyberpunk novel(cliche i know) but i need information about the history of computing from 1950-1980. There is a lot of gems here especially pertaining to the aesthetics of machines, and the ideas many futurists had at the time. What i need are resources, so come here to ask /lit/, this seems like an obscure thing one of might follow.
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/thread
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Dammit I fucked up ignore those posts. Here's the source: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html
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>>8242928
I read this ages ago. FORTRAN is fun to program in, but i will always stick with C++. On topic, maybe some old magazines from the 1950 on the topic i am asking about?
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Write a poem about this woman's ass.
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More inspiration. 1/3
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That ass too big
Don't like at all
Call me Irish but
I like 'em small
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>>8240368
2/3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKcOl-OKyc
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The copypasta from the incident with that American girl will appear in the first five posts.
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i am monitoring this thread
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The Wrongest Philosopher. 2016-07-04 05:59:44 Post No.8238914
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What philosopher was the most wrong, about the most things, in the most importantly wrong, bad, incorrect ways?
The picture is not meant as a positive assertion, but simply as a cheeky personal bias to get ideas flowing - I just enjoyed listening to Ella Fitzgerald scatting for several minutes.
Observably factual incorrectness of ideas - Copernicus and Galileo BTFO of geocentrism, for example.
Deficient morality - Sade is an obvious example.
The Greeks - Sophists? They were BTFO?
Nihilists - the whole project seems both in accord with a proper understanding of reality, and it it is wholly anti-human. /lit/ is stuck in this general area. Was Cioran "wrong"?
There is some pregnant wish to indict Marx here, but it's a tired run and we really must keep open the notion of indicting "conservative" philosophers for the sake of amusement, which is the real reason why I made this thread. Marx did seem to autistically hone in on an economic view of things to the exclusion of others, however. But in fairness I'm not qualified to write much further beyond this point.
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R A N D
D E S C A R T E S
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>le science
>facts
lol
>deficient morality
lol projecting your morality
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All of them?
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What's your favorite interpretation/adaptation of Hamlet?
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Бpáтья Кapaмáзoвы
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>>8234214
What the fuck
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>>8234328
Brothers Karamazov
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Post your work, critique other people's work, the usual.
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> anywhere where
Just saw anywhere. Or be more specific, that is just weak wording.
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They joked and quietly laughed together the way they used to when they first met. Before things got formal, before the engage-ment, before they became a symbol. They talked about everything but nothing of substance was produced, just jovial banter. Once they were alone, Fee said to Gallegos: ‘So, tell me, what is art?’ The mood was dead, brutally murdered with that one inno-cent question. It didn’t matter. It was each other’s company they were enjoying, something they hadn’t done in over two years. ‘Art is magic. Art manipulates our minds into a consciousness otherwise unknown. It invokes within us an emotional reaction that cannot be explained.’ The beers were gone and the couple moved on to the flask from Gallegos’ inner-breast pocket. ‘And this art didn’t do that?’ ‘Don’t. C’mon, dots, single brush strokes, vaginas and dicks everywhere. More effort goes into the expla-nation of what it is than the conception of it. And they have the perfect comeback to any negative criticism – you just don’t get it. It’s a brilliant scam.’ She laughed. ‘But it is a reflection of life in a very abstract way.’ No, it isn’t,’ he told her. ‘That’s the scam. This is entire Po-Mo premise, endeavouring to create with grade-school simplicity with convoluted meanings, it’s a joke against the bourgeois.’
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reading your stuff now, OP, will post critique in a sec
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>>8224165
The story might be captivating if I were to read more, maybe something that makes it stand out from similar pieces of that genre.
Your basic grammar and sentence structure etc is pretty bad but that's what editors are for (I guess, but at this rate they'd be rewriting most of it)
>Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow of Infinite Jest.
What did he mean by this?
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He was sincere.
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>>8249085
Yorick was a huge fan of David Foster Wallace.
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>>8249085
what's with all the hamlet threads lately?
I CANT TELL WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT IS IRONIC ANYMORE WHEN IM WRITING
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>>8249069
>irony isn't real
did you know the definitions of these words before?
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>>8249082
pretty clearly means 'sincere'. ya fuckin dunce
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>>8249069
What did he mean by this?