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does anyone have W.S. Merwin's purgatorio?
i'd love to compare it to other translations i've read.
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what do you want to know about it
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i want to read it.
but i cant find any online version, and my current situation doesn’t allow me to buy it. (no permanent address)
i want to read an English verse translation and compare it to the original Italian.
Also this translation has an excellent reputation among Dante scholars. (or at least the one i know)
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PS: also China, where i'll be staying, doesn’t approve allot of books. especially 'religious' texts.
still you can get around that.
do you have to be miserable to write well?
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No, but it fucking helps.
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>>8276974
not necessarily.
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protips for anyone writing 2016-07-14 06:31:53 Post No.8276849
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protips for anyone writing
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dont write about writing or reading. dont set anything in a school. dont have any characters be teachers or authors or even artists. dont mention the names of any famous author or artists or philosophers. under no circumstances have characters discuss literature, or their tastes in literature or movies or tv, etc. dont make youre main character an introvert who isnt understood by the morons around him. i could go on but hopefully you get the idea.
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>under no circumstances have characters discuss literature, or their tastes in literature or movies or tv, etc
Why is Murakami allowed to do that, then?
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>>8276849
T. i dont write
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Who are you to dictate on what and what not to do when writing. Many of those who write don't write for other people, but for themselves.
Write about whatever pleases you, don't be limited by some pretentious anon on /lit/
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I've encountered this bug a few times. Is this working as intended or should I try to fix it? Please help me I'm new here.
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is this post not your attempt to 'fix it'?
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checked
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Try factory reseting friendo
This has to be the most boring book I've ever read.
Are Kafka's other stories more interesting or is he being praised as one of the major figures of 20th-century literature for a reason I do not understand at all?
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My personal experience with Kafka's novels is that they always feel like bad dreams as I read them, but once I've gotten through them and contemplate them I realize how powerful the imagery and atmosphere are.
Seriously, I HATED The Castle while I was reading it but it was definitely a worthwhile experience.
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>Doesn't understand the irony of complaining about how boring The Trial was.
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>Are Kafka's other stories more interesting or is he being praised as one of the major figures of 20th-century literature for a reason I do not understand at all?
The second one. The Trial is so amazing I honestly feel bad that you did not enjoy it.
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Anyone into Westerns?
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does anyone have the link to the Blood Meridian review done by the shirtless obese guy?
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>le nyrb shill
fuck off
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>>8276460
Loved BM, looking to get Butcher's Crossing.
Have you read McCarthy's Border Trilogy?
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the weird frontier between post irony and new sincerity are these millennials the saviors of literature?
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Are they ?
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probably not.
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>>8276197
>between post irony and new sincerity
Can we find a metaxy beyond polarity to the Oasis of Awakenening
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Paradox of Literary Broadness
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Do you think most literature critics / theorists are bluffing? Unlike most other media / art, literature takes tons of time to consume, even when talking about a single work, much more to let it gestate, be reread etc.
Is therefore any sort of meaningful, broad, encompassing insight impossible?
And is the reason this gets swept under the rug because it would ruin academic careers if admitted?
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I don't think you've read too much if at all of literary criticism.
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>>8275570
Illiterate.
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>>8275570
it's a genuine question
but your starting point is suspect to begin with.
what is "meaningful, broad, encompassing insight "? and what do you imagine it would look like? Since you said it's also impossible.
Anyway, to answer your question, depends on the critic I guess.
It's like that with film. Someone like Kermode as opposed to Bordwell.
What you want to look out for when reading any kind of criticism is the "how" of the critique.
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Books have never made me shed a tear. I partially think I haven't come across the right book yet, but maybe I lack that sense of empathy needed for literature to have that effect on me too.
Have you ever shed a tear reading literature, anons? What books have had that effect on you?
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It's an obvious choice but Steinbeck's Of Mice & Men nearly got me.
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Norwegian Wood from Murakami made me cry. When I read it I just broke up with my girlfriend and themes of the book where very relevant for me. More books of Murakami made me shed a little tear.
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Williams' Stoner. It's upsetting how relatable it is.
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What are the ten most important Chinese books? 2016-07-13 19:28:37 Post No.8274961
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What are the ten most important Chinese books?
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In any category, what would you say are the ten most important Chinese books, whether it's by influence or moral significance or quality or whatever. The Analects, the Tao Te Ching...? The Water Margin? What?
Also, on an unrelated note I remember some essay about four emperors who were bad and four sages who were good, and the point was that the bad emperors had pretty rad lives while the good sages all lived miserably and died alone. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and what it's called/who wrote it?
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Journey to the West
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>>8274961
I mean RotTK, Outlaws of the Marsh/Water Margin, A Dream of Red Changers and Journey to the West are the easy answers. The Spring and Autumn Annals are cited everywhere. The Good Earth, although not written in Chinese by a Chinese was written by an extremely sympathetic daughter of long term missionaries. Lu Xun is mandatory. Jin Yong if you like Kung Fu. Gao Xingjian and Mo Yan for contemporary lit. The Blood Merchant is recent and well loved.
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Thanks a bunch, that's pretty helpful.
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>Looking around for some books to assist me in writing my own novel
>Every book I find is directed towards screenwriters
>"THREE ACT STORIES ARE GOD" meme
Are there ANY good books out there for would-be novel writers?
I've already read the Lite-Memoirs that everyone suggests (King's "On Writing", Atwood's "Negotiating with the Dead", Baxter's "Burning the House Down") but those are more guides of how to write in that author's style rather than general suggestions on the craft of writing itself.
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Study your favorite writers and stories.
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>>8274684
>guides of how to write in that author's style rather than general suggestions on the craft of writing itself.
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John Garder's Art of Fiction
Basically required reading
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SHAKESPEARE, DANTE and CERV-nein, nein! GOETHE 2016-07-13 16:52:08 Post No.8274480
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SHAKESPEARE, DANTE and CERV-nein, nein! GOETHE
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According to Schelling the three post-ancient authors you must read before you die are SHAKESPEARE, DANTE and CERVANTES. He later replaced Cervantes with GOETHE.
Imagine, after finding out you spent a significant part of your youth lurking /lit/, they've made you the national minister for education. What three authors do you put into the obligatory curriculum of non-ancient literature classes?
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Ovid, Shakespeare Dante
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shakespeare dante and goethe
schelling was right
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>>8274492
>Ovid
oh ja, he isn't quite as ancient as Quintus Ennius or Plautus!
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List your most brilliant, creative names.
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Why? You would steal them.
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>>8274309
John Smith
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What does /lit/ think of House of Leaves?
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Encapsulating in the aspects of literature that stand out the most.
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I liked it, /lit/ doesn't.
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>>8274240
>chilling with gf in her room, both of us reading
>get a text from girl in my hall
>asks if i want to borrow House of Leaves, she recommends it
>i say sure, pick up a copy
>start reading first ten pages
>can't stop thinking about hottie who lent me the book
>jerk off, jizz lands in the pages
>can't split the pages back open
>give book back to her
>never lends me a book again
did i goof /lit/? I'm so embarrassed
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Is this guy the best YouTube book reviewer? 2016-07-13 12:13:52 Post No.8273620
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Is this guy the best YouTube book reviewer?
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yes. he's certainly the most attractive too.
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>>8273627
>attractive
He looks like a rat.
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>>8273646
>not wanting to fuck rats
Fuck off Winston