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Is Infinite Jest vaporwave?

Is there any vaporwave literature?
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>>8321670
>Is Infinite Jest vaporwave?
Yes

>Is there any vaporwave literature?
No
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>>8321670
infinite jest is actually good, so no
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>>8321670
>Is Infinite Jest vaporwave?
yes
>Is there any vaporwave literature?
no

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>make magic powerful and interesting
>end up with characters who are practically gods

>put restrictions on magic
>ends up like a video game magic system or a weak system used only as a plot device

How do you balance magic?
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>>8321669
Powerful but sparce, rarely seen. Use it subtly. Make it mysterious.
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One of the easiest ones is binding it to physical vitality

If you try to pull high level spells while being some weak and unhealthy faggot you simply die. Even then you must wait for it to recharge
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>>8321709
>>>/fit/

What are some good coming of age stories that involve kids/teenagers learning to play a musical instrument?
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Bobby Learns to Banjo by Alicia Glissando
Jane's Big Bass by Tutti Tremolo
and Sally Loves The Double Reed by Dick "Timbre" Minuet
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Struts and Frets is a YA coming if age book that this falls under.
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>>8321660
This is an oddly specific request OP.

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Was Tolstoy right that film is an inferior medium to literature, and in fact an immoral medium?

From What Is Art:

>Pick up any newspaper of our time, and in every one of them you will find a section on theatre, movies, and music; in almost every issue you will find a description of some exhibition or other, or of some particular painting, and in every one you will find reports on newly appearing books of an artistic nature - poetry, stories, novels.

>Immediately after the event, a detailed description is published of how this or that actress or actor played this or that role in such and such a drama, comedy or opera, and what merits they displayed, and what the contents of the new drama, comedy or opera were, and its merits or shortcomings. With the same detail and care they describe how such-and-such an artist sang such-and-such a piece, or performed it on the piano or the violin, and what the shortcomings or merits of the piece and of the performance were. In every large town there will always be, if not several, then certainly one exhibition of new paintings, whose merits and shortcomings are analyzed with the greatest profundity by critics and connoisseurs. Almost every day new novels and poems appear, separately or in magazines, and the newspapers consider it their duty to give their readers detailed reports on these works of art.

>To support art in Russia, where only a hundredth part of what would be needed to provide all the people with the opportunity of learning is spent on popular education, the government gives millions in subsidies to academies, conservatories and theatres. In France eight millions are allotted to art, and the same in Germany and England. In every large town huge buildings are constructed for museums, academies, movie studios, cinemas, conservatories, dramatic schools, and for performances and concerts.
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>>8321624
>Hundreds of thousands of workers - carpenters, masons, painters, joiners, paper-hangers, tailors, hairdressers, jewelers, bronze founders, typesetters - spend their whole lives in hard labor to satisfy the demands of art, so that there is hardly another human activity, except the military, that consumes as much effort as this.

>But it is not only that such enormous labor is expended on this activity - human lives are also expended on it directly, as in war: from an early age, hundreds of thousands of people devote their entire lives to learning how to twirl their legs very quickly (dancers); others (musicians) to learning how to finger keys or strings very quickly; still others (artists) to acquiring skill with paint and to depicting all they see; a fourth group to acquiring skill in twisting every phrase in all possible ways and finding a rhyme for every word. And these people, often very kind, intelligent, capable of every sort of useful labor, grow wild in these exceptional, stupefying occupations and become dull to all serious phenomena of life, one-sided and self-complacent specialists, knowing only how to twirl their legs, tongues or fingers.

>But this, too, is not all. I recall attending once a movie set for one of the most ordinary new movies, such as are produced in all European and American movie studios

>I arrived when the first scene had already begun filming. To enter the set I had to pass backstage. I was led through dark underground corridors and passages of the enormous building, past immense machines for the changing of sets and lighting, where in darkness and dust I saw people working at something. One of the workers, his face grey and thin, wearing a dirty blouse, with dirty workman’s hands, the fingers sticking out, obviously tired and displeased, walked past me, angrily reproaching another man for something. Going up a dark stairway, I came out backstage.
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>>8321627
>Amid piled-up sets, curtains, some poles, there were dozens, if not hundreds, of painted and costumed people standing or milling around, the men in costumes closely fitted to their thighs and calves, and the women, as usual, with their bodies bared as much as possible. These were all actors, male and female dance groups, or ballet dancers, awaiting their turns and piles of costumes and set dressings. My guide led me across the stage, over a plank bridge through the camera crew, where sat about dozens of engineers and electricians of all sorts, and into the dark stalls. On an elevation between two lamps with reflectors, in an armchair with a bullhorn in front of it, script in hand, sat the director, who conducted the actors and costumes crowds and dancers and the overall production of the entire movie

>When I arrived, the shot had already begun, and a procession of Indians bringing home a bride was being presented on set. Besides the costumed men and women, two other men in short jackets were running and fussing about the stage: one was the assistant director, and the other, who stepped with extraordinary lightness in his soft shoes as he ran from place to place, was the dancing master, who received more pay per month than ten workers in a year.

>These three directors were trying to bring together the acting, the dancers, and the procession. The procession, as usual, was done in pairs, with tinfoil halberds on their shoulders. They all started from one place and went around, and around again, and then stopped. For a long time the procession did not go right: first the Indians with halberds came out too late, then too early, then they came out on time but crowded together too much as they exited, then they did not crowd but failed to take their proper places at the sides of the stage, and each time everything stopped and was started over again.
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>>8321632
>The procession began with a pantomime by a man dressed up like some sort of Turk, who, opening his mouth strangely, sang: ‘I accompany the bri-i-ide.’ He would sing it and wave his arm - bare, of course - from under his mantle. And the procession would start. But right away the Frenchman does something wrong at the end of the pantomime and the director, recoiling as if some disaster has taken place, yells "cut" through the bullhorn. Everything stops, and the director, turning to the procession, falls upon the Frenchman, abusing him in the rudest terms, of the sort that coachmen use, for having done the wrong step. And again everything starts over. The Indians with halberds again come out, stepping softly in their strange shoes; again the actor sings: ‘I accompany the bri-i-ide.’ But this time the pairs stand too close together. Again the yelling of "cut," the abuse, and it starts over. Again, ‘I accompany the bri-i-ide,’ again the same gesture with the bare arm from under the mantle, and the pairs, again stepping softly, halberds on their shoulders, some with serious and sad faces, some exchanging remarks and smiling, take their places in a circle and begin to dance. All is well, it seems; but again the yell of "cut", and the conductor, in a suffering and spiteful voice, begins to scold the male and female troupe members: it turns out that they fail to raise their arms from time to time while dancing, as a sign of animation. ‘Have you all died, or what? Cows! If you’re not dead, why don’t you move?’ Again it starts, again ‘I accompany the bri-i-ide,’ again the female troupe members dance with sad faces, now one and now another of them raising an arm. But two of the female dance members exchange remarks - again a more vehement yelling of "Cut". ‘What, have you come here to talk? You can gossip at home. You there, in the red trousers, move closer. Look at me. From the beginning.’

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Have the time to be polychromatic ?

http://hypem.com/track/2hhdp
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Do seconds count ?
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>>8321644

Might Dubs Count as Well ?
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Who IS watching the Throne ?

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>watching news
>realize that the Greeks had basically said all there was to say, two and a half millennia ago
>watching some dipshit give a speech
>realize that he had been outdone by Pericles, two and a half millennia ago
Honestly why do these idiots even try so hard.
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>>8321600
Because the Greeks have been removed from most of Western education.
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We live the same lives in different times, friendo.
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>>8321600
>arrogant because some random guy didn't give a speech as good as one of the most iconic pieces of rhetoric in all of western civilization

>>8321620
This is pretty much the entire point of reading the Greeks, Thucydides (and so Pericles' speech) especially. There is a certain constancy to human nature without which the study of history would be meaningless for giving us insights into the future.

>>8321609
Also this. Classical education is all but dead. Maybe it still exists in some high class and exclusive upbringings, but it's totally overshadowed by the masses of people going to university without even tasting classical education.

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Major influences, gods, the christian god, the devil and knights. What would you add to this list?

Iliad and Odyssey
Theogony
Plays from Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides
Aeneid
Ovid's Metamorphoses
The Bible
Divine Comedy
Decameron
The Canterbury Tales
Orlando Furioso
The Faerie Queene
Shakespeare's Complete
Marlowe's Doctor Faustus
Don Quixote
Paradise Lost
Goethe's Faust
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>>8321560
can you clarify
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>>8321560
What?
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>>8322227
>>8322229
Great works that satisfy at least one of the things mentioned. Sorry, I really thought it was clear after providing the list.

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ummm guys, what am i in for?
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>falling for the nyrb meme
good goy
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A bill for 24 loonies
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>what am i in for?

outing yourself as a pseud when people see you reading NYRB classics

i saw a guy with one in Tim Hortons once and watched him as he proceeded to eat his entire meal checking his phone and not reading the book he had prominently displayed on his table

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>reading a book
>realize everyone who is on /lit/ necessarily isn't reading a book
>go to /lit/ to gloat that I'm reading a book while everyone else is just shitposting on /lit/
>realize I'm now on /lit/
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i'm reading Fahrenheit 451 as we speek.

Poor Clarise
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>>8321489
You can read and post at the same time?
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>>8321479
i have a book open in another tab

i don't exalt literature though

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This or the oxford edition?
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when in doubt, go with Oxford, Scribner or modern library.
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>>8321427
Can you read French?
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>>8321451
no

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What's with the hype about Lolita? Why do so many people like that book? I honestly don't understand the appeal.
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muh prose
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It's gonna subvert your mind into complete absurdity, and that's ultimately what every intelligent person wants, at least, that's what I desperately crave. I haven't read the book yet, though LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
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>>8321414
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL-ita

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>borrowed Plato's complete works from library and it's due today
>only bothered to read 5 dialogues
>completely agreed with the "I only know that I can't know anything except this" lesson
>don't have the patience to read 1000+ pages of mental masturbation when I literally understood Socrates's main principle before I even opened the book

Am I doing anything wrong? I don't want to be one of those pseuds who talks about philosophy solely by worshiping famous people and saying nothing of substance. I'm a skeptic ffs. I literally cannot see how dozens of philosopher king wank fantasy pages can enlighten me.

>inb4 but he influenced so much

Either he influenced so much that I don't need to read him or you tell me right now why you haven't read the Bible, Torah, Qur'an, harry potter, and game of thrones. I pick neither of those options btw.
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nah dude i'm sure you're probably smarter than the greatest philosopher of all time, no worries
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you're not missing out on much anon. plato got completely BTFO the other day anyway >>8314013
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/lit/ is dead

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Who /literally too self-aware and post-ironic to keep a sincere diary/ here?
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>>8321329
>unironically using an irony point
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>post-ironic
did you enucleated ur i's?
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>>8321405
>implying I'm capable of pre-irony

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Do people hate this because it's an inaccurate portrayal of Eastern philosophy, or just because it's dull?
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>>8321320
both
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Its a good book; not for plebs.
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>>8321320

Intelligent people don't hate this book.

I won't say you're retarded if you didn't enjoy reading it, but I would suggest revisiting it at another point in your life.

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A friend of mine who enjoys reading is moving to africa for a year and I'm looking for some good literature to gift for the trip, particularly about or set in africa. Any suggestions?
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>>8321307
Can't help but I'll give you a bump.
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Here's one that comes to mind. A bit of an odd book but I found it to be a comfy read.

'Waiting for the Barbarians' by JM Coetzee. I suppose it's not actually specified that it's in Africa but at the same time it seems abundantly clear to me that it is.
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>>8321307
>>8321391

Another one.

I don't remember much about this book other than it's very, very big in Africa (like, read in every high school big) and it was also a comfy read.

Most of the African literature I'm aware of has a lot to do with foreign presence (go figure) so I imagine a variety of these texts would be cool to read while staying there as a foreigner.

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