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>alas
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>>8350776
poor Yorick
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alas, lass's ass's sauceless...
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Why has /ilt/ been taken over by dumb reddit frogposters?

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/lit/ club is back once again.

and we have a goodreads group now so we can do book club readings and make charts of which books are patrician.

so head on over and send an invite at:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/195303-lit-club
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please tell me theres other goodreads anons here
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I'm here.
A tad early for Americans though.
So what's the goal of that club, group readings?
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>another /lit/ group

What is this? The revival of the revival of the revival of the revival?

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Currently reading Look At The Birdie. It's fucking delightful.

Thoughts on Vonnegut, fuckers?
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BE BRAAAVE, FUCKERS
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Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt :)
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>>8350478
Amusing, somewhat sad, and maybe even touching at first but consistently less readable with each successive book of his that one gets through. An author to be read sparingly and intermittently if at all because his charm wears thin far too quickly.

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I just found 1st edition prints of Dune, the hobbit, to kill a mockingbird, and the one that flew over the cuckoo's nest at my grandparents house.

All in good to great condition.

Have I hit a potential gold mine?
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>>8350413
pic
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take them to a good antiquarian bookstore and ask them to appraise them for you.
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>>8350470
Yeah man, why would he keep them for himself, when he can make enough money to order a family sized pizza?

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What book can you talk about
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>>8350302
I know very few other people who read seriously or regularly. My one close friend who does reads primarily non fiction. We discuss subjects more than specific books. Usually Arabic history and classical archaeology. We both read Georges Roux's Ancient Iraq when I bought it at a flea market a couple of weeks ago, so I guess we talked about that a bit.
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I can talk a lot about Unbound by Meredith Noone, but only because it's the most recent thing I've read.

Following that, I can discuss The Diving-Bell and the Butterfly by Jean-Dominique Bauby, because it's the second most-recent thing I've read.

Any books further back than that have become a blur and I'd have to go get them and read them again to have anything useful to say.
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I'm a passive fucker that reads without analyzing themes on the subject. The only exceptions to this rule exist in the form of fanfiction.

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Well, /lit/? Do you love him? Do you hate him? Is he wrong about DFW having "no discernible talent"? Is the Western Canon in danger of the School of Resentment? Discuss.
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He's cool but I think maybe he's read a little too much. Like he thinks Shakespeare is literally God.

It's like... dude, chill.

I think he's right about DFW.

I don't think the canon is in danger. No real harm can come to good men or the impressions of their souls... what is loud and bad always burns itself out quickly.
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>>8350254
The way he talks about feminism being used in the classrooms is unrealistic. No one is seriously advocating that we throw out the classics, and anyone who is is only suggesting that to be as radical as possible and to shake things up and get some fucking women into the universities.

tldr: he missed the point of feminism like any old white dude and feels threatened by equality
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>>8350268
I agree with your assessment of his reactions to feminism, but do you think entire undergrad classes should be dedicated to Marxist, feminist, and queer readings of classic works? It doesn't make much sense to me. Why should literature be the safe haven of radical social leftists? That makes me fearful of literature's future - I mean the fact that the "readers" or "judges" of the quality of a work have such agendas.

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>WDHMBT?
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What clashes here of wills gen wonts, oystrygods gaggin fishygods! Brékkek Kékkek Kékkek Kékkek! Kóax Kóax Kóax! Úalu Úalu Úalu! Quáouáuh!
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What the fuck is happening
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farts

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>tfw when you gift a book to the woman of your dreams, and she never actually bothers to reads it
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>>8350004
cuck
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that's what you get for trying to turn someone into a person you'd like. she obviously wasn't the woman of your dreams
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I wasn't so delusional to believe she was the one (if there could be) but I lent one of my favorite books out by one of the most prestigious evolutionary biologists of our time to this chick that studies Chemistry at Stanford thinking she would have a profound revelation or it would at least provoke some kind of interesting dialogue between our two backgrounds (my background being from a squalor and poor upbringing) but it's been over a month now and she hasn't even read half of it (and it's such a short read). Instead, she's blowing me off, out partying with some sorority chicks and prep-school douchebags getting wasted, convincing herself that she's soul-searching. It's so fucking tragic that this is the American young-female condition, but it's so common. Anyways, I'm waiting another day before pestering the shit out of her till I get my book back cause I don't like leaving this shit hang loose.

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>>>8342519
>I can make a claim without claiming that my claim is an objective truth, faggot.

alright, I'm fucking triggered. what the FUCK did he mean by this?
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He's saying
>it's just my opinion bro
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>>8349967

hypothesis and speculation are worthwhile engagements of the literary psyche. the subjunctive makes one third of all possible English moods.
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>>8349967
what's the opposite of an objective truth, bby? I know you can do it.

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I'm going on a long trip and I was wondering is the Lord of the Rings actually worth reading? I haven't read anything storybased in years, mostly biographical stuff but LotR has always fascinated me.

Does it keep you interested the whole time?
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DO IT
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Does anyone know if there is a three-in-one edition of LotR? One book I mean, not a box set.
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>>8349947
The first book is excellent; the second and third are merely 'good'.

I would recommend it, though.

>>8350043
Yes, there's dozens of copies like that.

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Anyone know any good magazines/online journals where I can submit some poetry? I'm new as hell and I'd love to get my work out there.
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It's hard to get poetry published if you're new.
You should try and get feedback on it before you submit; generally websites will reject you without saying why other than "not what we had in mind."
Don't post your poetry here. I haven't read any decent poetry on lit ever. A bunch of try yards afraid of contemporary poetry that ham fistedly go for depth and sacrifice any aesthetic quality or just just bad writers.
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>>8349954
Duly noted, thank you! I've got a lot of really good resources at my university, some writing professors who are honest about their own work and what they think of students' stuff.
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>>8349972
Feedback from professors and some good writer friends is how I've gotten poetry published. It's a necessity. Good luck, my friend. And don't be afraid of the contemporaries! There doesn't need to be a strict rhyme scheme or meter to make a poem a poem.

Let's write a stream of consciousness. Open up word, set an alarm for ten minutes and start writing. Don't try to focus your thoughts and just type down what comes to your mind. Don't write anymore after the alarm sets off and the if you want, correct all the typos but nothing more. After that post it here.

This is mine:
Upon the breath of dragons came the smoldering corpses of planets which look through the glass that witches spoke through in times forgotten by all the apes that would constantly stare at the number seven. I didn’t like the attitude of some Cambodian missionaries who would row through the seas on the back of mountains and aligned with them all were much too few different severed bodies of the apocalypse which should fall before all the chains tying the roots of the earth. I didn’t bring much alcohol to fill all the bottles that would stick out beneath the salt sea of magnitude. When I lived in the watchtower I heard the constant clanking of processors built through the divine methods of molecular epitaxy past by the robots who created the human race. In the meanwhile I was driving a car which had no lights and could not expect how many of us would see the faces of pigeons reflected in our windows. Elvis lives and before he was a dinosaur he lived amongst Satan and Hephaestus creating black holes which encountered all the immortal races of the galaxy. The lives went on and the smoldering corpses were buried beneath witches and defecated upon and I liked the sweat scent of nice voluptuous women who would enwrap me with their sweaters which would lead to hesitant suffocation. I could not look either of them in the eye because I chose not to swear in public. We would not see how many of them were infantile and how many of them had rabbits growing from their claws. They could not produce evidence of all the crimes committed against the Polish people beneath all the stars that could have forged the first computers. Not only was it a myth that my head was enslaved beneath the sand by Jackie Chan who could ride the ocean waves on his bike it would also be fair to suspect that none of them lied to me when they were making up all the falsehoods that produced mankind’s first origin spirits. It was not known whether or not I would like to be thought of as a person that could go on without trying and know the shapes of buildings by looking upon them. It would seem obvious to me that I was beneath a sky that shouted all the names of the bands that made Loveless a thing and none of the noises breathing on my skin.
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More like two minutes, but -

There's some rancid comfort to this bowl of rice crispies asleep in my palm. I feel the flex of my wrist so differently than when I found myself committing adultery with an unfamiliar grasp. Reading attic poetry while watching dota streams is a perfect blend of high brow and low brow, like Shakespeare, or so I see myself seeing. But you don't know see the seeing, which is where Descartes was wrong.
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Three minutes here.

I've got the shingles and when the chips are down I wiull fight tooth and nail with a board of wood over a catfish. Charms and cancers are writ upon the sky full of Jews and merriment, and there lies a conundrum. Is life matter or what matter is life? Anger befits no one. James Joytce Jingles Jollily upon paper writ with dreams. Morgoth is a location in the Lord of the Rings I think that maybe doesn't appear. Kill the death of all man. Damnation upon those who would dare suggest that my creme puffs are brittle and sunken with the weight of apostrophes. Fingering the banged man within the childre. Jingoism. Jingoism. National soviets of Zengief road warrior Hawk. Criminals are a suiperfluous and cowardly lot, filled with thoughts and dreams of gastly deeds and grim reports in the darkness of the night.
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Clock on 4 min
The cluster of black vigils in a white plain was all there was in my mind. I weaved that sweater I've never weaved before with blood on my hands. That is what it was, a abnormally bad human at motor skills. But I didn't sweat, I just stayed on my seat, and kept weaving the sweater.
What was the meaning of those vigils I wondered, but weary with the weaving and wandering; faltering into observation, yet more of a contemplation, a form of admiration of indifference.
How would've I ever known.
The black vigils were notes to a white pentagram, and the blood on my hands were humble sounds into the naught.
I weaved but weary music into a plain world.
That music will never hear herself.

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I study literature at university (I started with the Greeks) and reading isn't what it used to be. It's dry and scientific and I'm getting sick of it. I have no motivation to keep going. I am not sure academic life is what I want anymore. Is it worth it? And how do I fix this?
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how far into it are you?
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>>8349836
finishing 1st year
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>>8349832
Your problem is that you are going to university for literature. Change your degree to something useful.

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>tfw my existential crisis was acting up
>tfw burger king, coffee, and a bag of minstrels kept it at bay today
>tfw it'll come back after I go to sleep and wake up
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>>>/his/
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Who are you quoting??
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Me too man. For me it's McDonalds and walking around at 11PM leering at underage girls and imagining what it would like like if they were sitting down on a rimseat positioned over my head. I have to imagine really weird specific shit because I'm so deadened to the basics that some part of me just tunes out if I try to imagine them. If I just look at some girl's ass, it doesn't click. I have to throw a fucking rimseat in there so my imagination actually starts chugging and imagines her labia peeling apart as her legs spread.

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Is this meme as good as people say it is?
Worth a read?
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>>8349745
No.
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>>8349745
Yes.
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>>8349745
Maybe.

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