Is /s4s/ the logical conclusion to literature?
>>8350466
No, it is the beginning. Soon literature will become 100% memes. Then those memes will evolve into meta memes and so forth.
yes
also it's [s4s] dweeb!! XD
Ok /Lit/, what is the first book you personally would recommend a person should read trying to get into philosophy.
the bible. you can engage with philosophy but you must not take it at any value other than satan's trick. it will not save you
>>8350427
can you actually talk like a person or is fedora your only speed
>>8350432
god gave us his word! hallelujah
I hate taking 6 months to write 45 thousand words.
My dream is to shit-write a novel every month so my chances of getting a hit multiply by 6.
How do I into writing faster, /lit/? I have countless ideas for novels but I just take way too long with my writing. My dream is to write a 800 pages master piece to explain human experience but that'd take me 5 years in my current pace.
What should I do?
>>8350400
nanowrimo
>>8350400
Why is your writing to slow to begin with? Most slow writers write slow because they're perfectionists. If this is the case, then you just have to convince yourself that the first draft of anything you write is going to be shit. That way, you can just write and write without worrying about whether it sucks or not, because it's supposed to.
But different people have different creative styles. personally, i like to put my work through at least seven drafts, so an ~80,000 word book is currently taking me 3 years to develop the final manuscript. Writing slow may just be the way you're programmed to create things. If the final product lives up to your expectations, you have nothing to worry about.
>>8350585
fuck nanowrimo
if you can;t motivate yourself, you shouldnt be writing. it's a solitary craft
>>8350400
I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the human experience.
Alright I bet if you went to a public school you might have a similar problem to mine.
In high school a teacher forbade us from ever and I mean EVER using "dead verbs":
>am
>are
>be
>had
>has
>becomes
>have
>is
>was
>were
so much so that she would take something like 10 points off a paper for each use. For a while I could manage, but it's affected my ability to write papers in a college environment. I can't even write personally without checking over a sentence for them. This practice has damaged my ability to write and I'm gonna need you guys to reaffirm to me that I can use these words (even occasionally) in my writing. Or if this is a legitimate thing, explain how I can write more freely around them.
>>8350399
>if this is a legitimate thing
it isn't
hope your sophomore year works out better for you, bud
>>8350399
When and where did you go to high school? I went to a public high school 7 years ago and I never even heard of any teacher doing something that retarded.
>>8350479
Class of 2015 Colorado. I was first taught not to use them in middle school, and was then pressured even further as a hs senior
What does /lit/ think of William Gaddis?
>>8350390
One of the absolute greatest authors of all time. It's a damn shame it took so long for that to be acknowledged and an even bigger one that he's still criminally underread now.
>>8350405
What makes him so great?
>>8350410
he uses words real good like
How do we fix highschool English so it stops producing plebs?
We could stop teaching symbolism, as if that were the be-all, end-all of literary meaning, for one.
Remove all YA fiction, start teaching philosophy and theology again, also latin and greek. Oh that won't happen, well guess we're stuck with plebs.
>government schools
>ever producing anything other than plebs and drones
Have you read this book?
Is there anything to learn from it or is it a complete waste of time?
overrated unless you're 15 and beginning to smoke pot
at least download and not buy it
try illuminatus! and cosmic trigger instead
Both!
either/or
>>8350139
>either/or
i agree anon he should read kierkegaard instead
ITT: writers that browse /lit/
>>8350094
Are you a boy or a girl
I just started reading this and I don't know what the fuck is going on. This is considered 'the great American novel??'
The dialogue doesn't even make any sense.
>>8349953
Wow, I also started it and am on chapter 8. It is kind of confusing but I already find it funny so I don't care. Just re-read parts if you confused
>>8349953
Post the dialogue that you can't understand
>>8349953
u ret would never be able to read joyce
Does anyone want to debate?
I think the moral functions of texts are just as important as the aesthetic ones.
I.e. literature as social justice.
>>8349862
Agreed. Art for the sake of aesthetics is pointless and empty, and hardly worth being called art in the first place. It needs to make a point, or lead you to some higher or altered understanding.
>>8349896
All art is quite useless. We've known about this for centuries. If art serves a purpose outside of its own existence it is nothing more than a tool.
>>8349862
I don't believe in the existence of morals so I see nothing to debate, sorry
this is the most /lit movie of all time.
I watched it with my ex-girlfriend.
She dozed off.
Most /lit/ movie confirmed.
>>8351278
Why can't women understand anything that isn't shallow ephemeral gossip?
>>8351278
weird I watched it with mine and she says she hates war movies. yet when the guy gets the letter from his wife saying she found someone else my gf is balling her eyes out. then she cried when the young kid died close to the end. then she fucking cried during pic related. I thought you don't like war movies bitch.
>age
>location
>book you're currently reading and how do you like it
u first
>>8349789
26
center of the universe, Toronto Ontario Canada
J R it's flipping loltasticore
>18
>Viña del Mar, Chile (aka Hell)
>Dubliners by James 'le thesaurus man' Joyce
>mfw
What do you do with the books you've read? Do you hold on to them forever (do you re-read often?) Do you throw them away? Sell them to used bookstores? Burn them for warmth? I usually discard them via pic related. Is that bad? Am I robbing the authors of potential sales?
I like to keep my books. My office doubles as a library. I loan books out to friends and use them for reference.
>>8349545
Whenever I see these they're always filled with shit
>>8349583
Same. Though I have picked up a number of good books from cardboard boxes with "free" written on them.
Is Borges the most /lit/ writer?
>autistic as fuck
>awkward with women
>contrarian as fuck
>all of his work is retarded fanfic meta wank and referencing completely obscure events and characters
>DUDE I'M SMARTER THAN YOU LMAO
>fuck fascism
>fuck communism
>fuck literally everything other than my own little snowflake mindset
kys
You say that like it's a negative thing.
>>8349452
Someone seems to be triggered.
Post what you've picked up from your favourite bookstores /lit/
Rate, hate, rec, whatever
Pic related, I bought the pile on the right for around 20€ this afternoon
>>8349252
I'm fully aware that those are all classics and thus highly unoriginal, but I was happy enough to find books in English, not a common sight in used bookstores here.
Don't refrain from showing more exciting findings
Where's "here"? Romania? Poland? What?
>>8349252
found all these folio society books for $4 each at a used books store. I just bought "Great Short Stories" though I was tempted to also buy the poetry anthology.