I've been interested in this Philosophy idea for some time now. I like to think about things and learn about the thinkers who thought better things. But every time I see a Philosophy book, it's always long, and written with very difficult language. Either because it's translated from some old fuck, or it's just intentionally convoluted. Like, is that huge book really needed when a WIKIPEDIA article is able to sum up what you said in one page? What gives, were the Philosophers pulling my leg?
Essentially, how do I get into Philosophy, but I want to read something actually legible and concise, not fucking hard to read and long. Like an extended Wikipedia page, you know? Like a Philosophy for Dummies (does this exist?) Because listen, I'm not here for the prose of the Philosphers, I'm here for the ideas. Because that's what matters in Philosophy, right (argue me on this).
I'm talking about the Platos, the Epictetes, Foucault, Simulacra and Simulation, etc. I want the ideas, not their poorly, old-English worded, tripe. Do these kind of books exist?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1
You have to take classes in philosophy
You can't just read it
Sorry
>>9904803
Get off your high horse and start working with the text, that's how it's supposed to be and that's what everyone else does
Since Autumn is coming, and is only a little more than a month away, what are some books you have found which capture the essence of the season?
I find myself more drawn to Medieval literature in the autumn. I love a good romance during this time, it just feels more appropriate.
>>9904700
Some Victorian gothic seems to work. And Norse sagas.
>>9904700
Culture of Critique Series by Kevin MacDonald
bump
What are some books about the Beach Boys?
my life as a beach boy by Mike Love
>>9904639
Thanks lad. Much appreciated. How is it?
Watch Love and Mercy
you know that life doesn't end after death... right?
can't believe people are actually so scared of life's one inevitability that they have memed this so hard for so many years it's actually baffling
none of the proposed afterlives even sound good. who wants to be around forever anyway
>>9904633
as a buddhist, i wish it did
>>9904788
Kierkegaard was spot on when he said that the most terrifying thought imaginable isn't that we perish, but that we can never die.
What are some books that are both happy and sad? I'm not sure how to describe it exactly, but like Walser's writing (for those who have read it). It's like this bittersweet feeling, that life is beautiful, joyful, oppressive, and cruel, all at the same time.
Help me out my dudes
Tolstoy
Musil?
Lotta Japanese lit is like this I think as well. Try Mishima's short stories Death in Midsummer and Patriotism
>>9904628
bumpa
>>9904776
bomp
My brother is reading it in Russian
>>9904614
Im reading it on the toilet. Its pretty guud desu
>>9904614
Reading it right now. Pierre reminds me of my own awkwardness so much I hate him.
And these four books in specific.
If you've read them, tell me your thoughts and feelings, if you haven't go get them.
I can also suggest The Secret Temple, which is nowhere as strong as these three, but is fun if you're into colonial, revolutionary, and civil war American secret societies and cults.
Think he's wrong about the whole, "our leaders are secretly nazis" thing, but he's probably right about the sinister forces thesis that there is something weird going on with the elites of America and this has always been the case. I don't think "satanic" captures the weirdness. My bet is that the elites are probably organized along some sort of esoteric religious lines with secret societies, left hand path magic (that are extreme in their rituals: the more extreme, the more power they think they can get), etc. and that this is mistaken for babby-tier "satanism". Also, you don't need to buy into supernatural explanations for this to work. To say our elites are doing weird, ritualized death and sex magic isn't to buy into the idea that this stuff is ontologically real. You can have an anthropological explanation of some group's beliefs without buying into the ontology of the beliefs.
>tfw you wanted a discussion but op left his own thread
whelp, going to sleep now, also saging.
>>9904591
desu I didn't expect any replies til tomorrow.
I concur w the first post of course.
I really found Hitler Legacy to be a monumental piece, because it really lays open how things that seem so distinct and foreign to each other, how those things flow out of each other organically, and I learned strongly that World War 1&2 are the same war and that this war never actually ended.
Esp interesting was getting into detail about agents of Britain and Germany in Middle East during that ww1&2 extended period, spec Max Oppenheim and Muslim Brotherhood et c
All this the more nuanced by the films Hypernormalisation and Pervert's Guide to Ideology, along with Family of Secrets book about Bush Dynasty
what does /lit/ think of this book
is this what he did after formalizing set theory?
In all seriousness this book really made me see life in a new way. Specifically Frankl's third way of finding meaning - overcoming unavoidable suffering with dignity. And for people who haven't read the book, that's much deeper than it sounds.
Iel
Do any of you anon's know any good books to understand Shia Islam? I was always curious of these dudes.
Them and the Ibadis
Problem is, that it seens majority are in fucking arab... I aint gonna fucking try learning this.
Any english or spanish things to learn more 'bout Shia Islam?
wahabbis go away
>shia
>islam
Choose one.
>>9904431
delet dis kaffir
>>9904418
reza aslan's shia- his book Understanding Islam doesn't stint in that direction. I remember checking out a few books from the library relevant thanks to his bibliography.
Any of you fags bothered by RLS when you get comfy and start reading? It's really been hindering me lately. Tips?
What the hell is RLS?
>>9904400
Author of Treasure Island; Kidnapped; The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde; The Master of Ballantrae and many more.
>>9904400
> he doesn't know RLS
Should I do it Part I > Part II > Part III > Part IV or should I read it Part IV> Part III > Part II > Part I? Apparantly part IV is the most accessible and the other parts are harder to understand, but I don't want to read it first if it will have concepts I would learn in the first three parts. I already have some good Biblical knowledge, so that won't be a problem
Read it in order.
Visions of Urantia girls
They race around my brain in swirls
>>9904419
It's memories.
Memories of the Urantia girls
They race around my brain in swirls
It doesn't even matter. It's batshit on every page.
>"Supposing Truth be a woman, would you rape her?"
Wtf Weezy F Neezy?
>>9904252
DELET DIS
IeI
What an awful thread
>>9904215
I wouldn't know, I can't read Russian.
That's a funny way to spell David Foster Wallace
>Tfw you buy a book you will never read but would simply like to own, or even, would like to be seen owning
>Tfw you buy a hardcover throw away the silly annoying jacket thing immediately
>Tfw you fold the page of a book to hold your place
what are some naughty reading habits you've developed?
instead of using a bookmark, i'll leave a paperback on the page i was reading by laying it on that page on a flat surface and keep it that way until i pick back up again, which could be hours or days.
>go to the local bookstore
>check out interesting books
>don't buy any
>download them off the internet for free afterwards
a shame I can't do it anymore because the place went out of business, though
>the captcha says to select all street signs
>click on all the cars instead
>sometimes it goes through
hopefully it sets back google's self driving car project by a few years so people can still make a living driving uber
>tfw idiot savant
>>9904149
>tfw idiot