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Hey, /lit/ how do you personally see Humanity's relationship to God? Is there anything to compare it too?
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btw, pic-related somewhat unrelated. I heard it was some kind of angel or something but I'm not sure how correct it is.
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>>8362549
>>>/his/
>>>/x/
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There is nothing to compare a God to, so no.

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23 is the width of the Arecibo message
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In the list of fortunate numbers, 23 occurs twice
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>>8362433
Synchronistic dubs

So how special are patterns? People are naturally attracted to patterns

People have the tendency to ‘look for familiar patterns in unfamiliar places'
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Creative practitioners are always involved in recognizing and creating patterns

...holographic interstellar probe message...

...holographic storytelling energy fields...

macroscopic functionality of a system with "emergent functionality" is the sum of all "side effects"

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how important are descriptions of places, architecture and clothes? I am good at everything but that. I dont know or care how shit looks but I notice authors seem to be obsessed with that.
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It depends if you care about making money.
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Describe only the parts that the reader needs to form the rest in their head. Most of the novel will be imagined by the reader anyway so you just need to figure out what general ideas and concepts you want them to store. It gets pretty complex. But anyway if you dont care then dont put it in. Inflation wont help the writing
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Post yer shit you overconfident sack a shit, he spat

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Short story thread?

Preface: this is part of a collection of relating stories so some plot points are to be explained later.

Damn it's cold" Sam muttered, looking to his only company a dirty, but trustworthy dog. it's tags said it's name was Jack, but Sam insisted on calling him Red, he never knew why it just came to him after it had got done wasting a man who tried to rob them. They had taken shelter an office building, or what had been one. they were on the 33rd floor in a mess of toppled over cubicles and and burned out terminals, the faulty wiring, sparked once and again, but besides that it was serene, a large gap in the side of this floor provided a view of the long way down, but also of the graveyard of skyscrapers, teetering as if almost on the verge of collapse, the subtle sound of metal joints and entire beams snapping and collapsing ; spelling doom for the entire structure. Old burned out holobilboards, continued to faintly advertise the latest product form HarCo that no-one could buy any more, but alas with all of it's will, it shines on. Sam rose and gathered the cubical walls; he then began to break them apart to use for starter. he arranged the small slivers of wood above the strips of cloth used to cover the cubical walls. he pulled out the lighter from his backpack lying next to Red and lit up the fire. he then went back to sitting with his arm resting on his slightly raised right leg. Running it's all he knew at his point; it's all he had been doing since he was a child, running from anything that seemed it might be a threat, this is where Red come into great use; Red would warn him of any on coming danger and he would run the other way. he was sick of it, he would some times run until he had to vomit; this was the cost of survival however, and if he lived he could get over the running. it was being alone that killed him, the only resemblance of a human were those androids and they all try to kill him, he only had his thoughts and Red (for whom he often talked to, in order to alleviate this dreadful isolation.), his thoughts constantly swirled around in his head, thoughts of a comfortable place, a place with people, and no one to run from. for now though he had the steel walls and the winds blowing through the massive hole in the wall. Sam tried to think of Home, his childhood, but only vauge foggy visons filled his mind, one of running around in a front yard of sorts, yelling and hollering, about nothing, running not for survival but because he enjoyed it. he jumped to another memory, one of a Man playing catch with him, however this man did not feel like his father. he heard in the cave of his mind echos of the words "Teal 009", this jolted him back into reality, he found himself staring into the fire, his mind flooded with thoughts, trying to make sense of that phrase.
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Suddenly he had a flash of familiarity from pondering the odd phrase as if he heard it before, he tried to push out every thought related to this phrase and began to pet Red's head to detract himself from his thoughts, however it kept creeping up on him, invading his mind with the force of an army. he thought about if he had someone here to talk to, a girl perhaps a smile grew on his face, but quickly faded, in a storm of pessimism. he cursed himself, every time he thought about company he tore it down. he looked around him at the skeletons lying around, people who once had lives, jobs, families, things that he never even saw in his life that he can remember. He began rummage through his bag to find some Dog food, he pulled out his knife and carved off the lid, he turned the can up side down and hit the bottom, forcing the mushy, chunky brown glob onto the floor. he reached into his bag again this time pulling out a small object, it was round with an elevated center, the center also had a smaller but pitch black circle in it, if he angled it right the fire would illuminate this part of it briefly showcasing, some electronic parts housed inside. He had no idea no use for this thing however he picked it up somewhere he couldn't remember. He had been so many places that they all seemed to merge together. he looked at his jumpsuit covered in various dirt's and stains of unknown origin. he shrugged He laid down, and closed his eyes. Darkness took over then he found himself on a green hill, overlooking an assortment of other hills all covered in this green stuff. the Sun shined like no other day he had seen, and the clouds were no where to be seen, when he looked in the distance someone was running towards him, as the person grew nearer a sense of dread overcame him, as it progressed he felt like shouting at the person to stop, but he couldn't say anything, as they person grew nearer he could make out a cream colored dress on this person, he assumed then that it was a girl. this despite his preconceptions did not alleviate that dread which now was at a fever pitch, he woke in a sweat despite the air around him being, ice cold. he stayed in that upright position for a while, breathing and unsure of what he experienced. it was dawn outside, and so he began his descent to the surface level, he grabbed his bag stomped on the fire and began down the stairs, as he as descending, at about the 9th floor he heard a gun shot; it stopped him in his tracks as he waited for another, nothing. he continued down until he heard another, and three more in succession, he looked at the wall and saw he was on the 4th floor already. He rushed down and as he did more shots were fired. then screams became audible, when he got to the lobby, he jumped behind the nearby reception desk, and peaked his head, he saw in the streets some people crowding around one area flashes of light and thunderous sound coming from the center of the crowd, Sam smiled, People.
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i wanna play fallout again now
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>>8362383
Do it

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I really can't get myself to fucking read anymore, what the hell do I do? I feel so depressed and the only thing I feel like doing is browsing the internet all day and playing maybe an hour of videogames.

Am I brainwashed by modern-day distraction or something? Has my ability to focus and have self-discipline ruined by being raised in contemporary society?

Is this just a phase that I will grow out of? How do I get my fuse lit again?
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Feelings follow actions, not the other way around. Read and you'll feel better, which will make you want to read more, which will keep you feeling good. You just have to take that first step.
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>>8362304

Taking that first step is so hard though, I don't know how I can. I read a few pages and feel empty and just come back to the PC to interact with people.
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>>8362334

I understand entirely. But you won't find any help by just sitting around and waiting for motivation to fall into your lap. Motivation is useless.

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Anyone here knows how to read, write and speak Urdu?

It's supposed to be my mother tongue but thanks to globalisation, the only language I'm fluent in is English.

I want to go back to my roots and learn Urdu from the basics. But I don't know if it's worth investing my time and efforts.

How do I go about learning Urdu? How do you find Urdu literature? Please recommend authors whose works I should check out once I'm proficient in Urdu.
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>>8362269

I don't know Urdu, but the script looks Arabic. If that is the case, the alphabet should be pretty easy for you. Just remember that the diacritics can mark for vowel sounds.
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>>8362269
>>8362275

Same poster again.

I looked into it a little. Urdu is Pakistani, and does use the Arabic script as I thought.

In this case I recommend you learn Fus-ha Arabic as well, as Pakistan is a muslim country and Fus-ha will be a lingua franca for those who are muslims or were raised in madrasa or similar religious schools.
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>>8362275

It's essentially Hindi written in the Arabic script, with a lot of Persian loanwords.

>>8362269

Can't tell you anything about the literature, but Urdu is awesome. Language learning isn't as tricky as people make it out to be (though that doesn't mean it's easy). Find a grammar, work your way through it, then jump in the deep end and start reading a book that you've already read in English. Look up all the words you don't know, etc.

One specific tip I have for you is that Arabic script, while beautiful, doesn't do a good job of displaying vowels. You'll want to use a site like Forvo.com to hear words spoken by native speakers so you'll know which vowels belong where. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.

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Is cormac McCarthy's writing style a revelation? His prose flows so damn well

Unlike Pynchon that messy fuck
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>>8362221
Pa. Why are eggs breakfast?

What.

You can put bacon on lunch.

Ye.

But if you put eggs on stuff it becomes breakfast?

The man spat and said the eggs are not for this world or from this world they come from the chicken but the chicken knows it not.

He wiped his chin and spat.
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>>8362221
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The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket. "Vámonos, amigos," he whispered, and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlecock. And they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.

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Who here /slowreader/?
It took me three weeks to read demons, and I can only get through maybe 15-20 pages in half an hour
How do I go faster?
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>>8362197
>wanting to be a fastpleb
Read 15-20 pages per day
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>>8362197
Don't worry about reading faster, it's not a race. Just worry about fully understanding what you've read.
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>>8362202
And by 'per day' I mean spread it out through the day. Become a true bourgeoisie patrician.

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>tfw spent all of Quentin's section thinking he and Caddy had committed incest
Who /retarded/ here?
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I felt retarded reading The Waves, beautiful book, but my mind couldn't wrap itself around the words a lot of the time
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>>8362344
I just finished Mrs. Dalloway and had the same problem. It was probably the best book I've read this year but God damn if Virginia didn't go over my head every other page
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You're not alone, OP.

Just finished this. My first dig into Foucault, or philosophy in general (was given to my idiot roommate to read by his savant cousin, roommate passed it on to me), and I surely didn't get everything I could have out of it, but did appreciate a lot.

I had to write an essay on gaze for a photography class several years ago and cited some of Foucault's ideas in it that I'd passed over (e.g. Panopticon, unequal gaze, etc.) but hadn't gone into depth with them.

I have to say I wish the whole book could have explored page 200 onwards because the lead up sections, Torture and Punishment, are mainly historical with brief summarizations of "yup, this is what non-codified structures of power amount to." Which is fine, but superficial.

Really from 200 onwards did I find myself engaged by the ideas. Maybe I'm just digging reading about prison reform and injustices in the justice system, but Foucault talking about the literal architecture of structures of power is fascinating.


Anyway, maybe somebody else who's read this can talk with me about the book.
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But why would you trust his writing on power structures? He is not a scientist who has developed sociological theories empirically and methodically. You don't take it seriously, right?

Right?
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I read the first page or so and found it extremely entertaining

how erudite/dense is this work? it seems accessible from the 1 minute I spent reading it
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>>8362152
Throughout I was doubting nearly everything he was saying as there was so. much. rhetoric. but regardless of how much stock I put in his ideas, they were interesting at least.

For fuck's sake though why does philosophy have to have such verbose prose.

>>8362159
The first page does start off with a bang! Foucault indulges the reader in a graphic scene of 17th (?) century public torture with very visual descriptions of flesh being turned from the body etc. Wouldn't say it's very accessible but what kind of reading do you do otherwise? That is, do you read a lot of philosophical texts?

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>mischievous
>been pronouncing it mis-chi-vi-us
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>foreign word
>pronounce it for years like the monolingual peasants around me
>see the light
>pronounce it the patrician real citoyen du monde way
>people don't understand
>mein 面 ὅτε
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>>8362054
>equates patricianhood with being upperclass
Does anyone do this after the 11th century?
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it literally doesn't matter how you pronounce words as long as the person to whom you are speaking understands what you are trying to express

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How do I into Gore Vidal? I'm asking because I know he considered Christopher Hitchens his successor and I'm a big fan of the Hitch.
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Listen here, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-nazi, or I'll sock in your goddamn face and you'll STAY plastered
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Gore vidal is a poor man's hitchens and hitchens a poor man's Sam harris. Just read harris tb h
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>>8362023
love this memory

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Post pleb authors who you actually like.
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Lemony snicket who I dont think is pleb but most of his fans probably are.
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Albert Camus
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>>8362010
He's okay at best. I like his prose sometimes but only when I want a trash novel

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What's the point of continental philosophy except to give the losers that study it a job?

I'd rather be a Christian than believe any of that Euroqueer garbage, at least that way I can hook up with attractive Christian girls at church events
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>>8362008
Because it's fun if you have greater interests in the humanities. Analytic training is good preparation for parsing through the junk that it's been known to produce these days, though.
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>>8362008
Sure, whatever.
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>>8362008

Sorry, but you're the worst kind of person

Who the hell adopts an ideology, or worse, pretends to adopt it, just to bust a nut

Dishonest Beta male, slinking around the back of the tribe, pulling tricks to get a dick in

Disgusting

Can someone link me a good picture that goes well with this poem i wrote?
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>>8361997
that's not even what anchors do you ignorant shit.
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>>8362009
please be nice and civil buddy
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Perhaps a diagram demonstrating the key design flaws of the anchor you're describing

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