>60.000 word novella due tomorrow
>Can't stop browsing /lit/
Any ideas what should I do?
>>8379566
How far in are you?
>>8379567
I don't even have a title or an idea yet
>Tragedy due tomorrow for the contest
>can't stop writing satyr plays
So, I'm sort of bored with reading right now. I've finished about 7 books (I've picked up a shit load of books that I've read a little and put down because I didn't feel like it) and right now I'm reading No Longer Human. I just don't really feel like it right now. Is there some book that actually has a juicy plot? I mean like, something which has really, really fucking juicy plot. I mean like, debachery, fucked up embarrassing secrets, disgustingness and shock value, psychological worm holes, I just want something where the pages ooze with the feeling of 'oh my god I am glad that no one can see me reading this book right now'. Everything I read is so fucking dry, I want to read a book that has something that makes me feel like I shouldn't even mention that I ever read it to anyone.
>>8379076
>I've finished about 7 books
this year I meant to say
>>8379076
TBK desu!
The Secret History - Procopius
I was reading Pindar, enjoying the olives and laurels and the balmy breath of the Olympics in our routines, but his work let me down. I thought he was going to be a supreme poet of imagery and metaphor, a great singer of the beauty of the human body and soul as mirrors where the Cosmos could see itself and rejoice on its own grandeur. But instead he is not only confused, not only far more interested in names of heroes and myths than in the humanity behind them, but also his metaphors are not striking, not sublime, not daring and breathtaking.
Wikipedia tells me:
>Pindar (c. 522 – c. 443 BC) was an Ancient Greek lyric poet from Thebes. Of the canonical nine lyric poets of ancient Greece, his work is the best preserved. Quintilian wrote, "Of the nine lyric poets, Pindar is by far the greatest, in virtue of his inspired magnificence, the beauty of his thoughts and figures, the rich exuberance of his language and matter, and his rolling flood of eloquence, characteristics which, as Horace rightly held, make him inimitable."
Yes, his work is one of the best preserved on antiquity, yet I don’t know how it can be. The few fragments of Sappho promise a much greater poetic mind, and, as a poet, Aeschylus (to me the greatest poet of ancient Greece, with Homer) is by far superior to Pindar in every way.
>>8378857
>the rich exuberance of his language
Well if you are reading a translation you are missing out on this completely.
Poetry is not easily translatable.
>>8378878
Yes, I know that the sonority (assonance, alliteration) and the rhythm and beats of the verses are all completely lost, but a metaphor will still be a metaphor even in another language. I was reading the poems in a free-verse translation, where the translator took great care not to limit or remove any bit of information of the original works.
He translated a whole anthology of ancient Greek poetry, and for what I can tell by reading the prefaces Pindar was his favorite, so I guess he would be even extra careful with him.
>>8378894
Maybe pindar was more of a pushkin than a Shakespeare
Tell me where to start with philosophy in general as though I'm a total baby.
I'm a mathematician, so the more logic-based stuff makes sense to me, but other than that I'm completely stuck. Even things as supposedly fundamental as Plato's Theory of Forms go straight over my head.
I've read Nausea, and I enjoyed it, but again I don't feel like I even remotely got it. My limited understanding of existentialism made it seem so... Obvious? Which I know it isn't.
Help me, /lit/, I know I'm missing out on something really great here.
>>8378836
that's shit
don't listen to complete chronology memers
read
Think - Blackburn
The Story of Philosophy - Magee
The Logic Manual - Volker Halbach
These should give you "the gist" of the main guys. What are you more specific interests?
Do you want to read the main guys? Any specific topics you want to read on?
>>8378836
How do you read Socrates before Plato, Aristophanes, Xenophon?
Which version should I get?
that one
any version but that one
>>8378748
get both that one and any version but that one
Does taking LSD or any other psychedelic instantly makes you a pseud?
>>8378637
no because you were a pseud in the first place
>>8378640
proof?
It eventually made me feel like a self-indulgent degenerate who was wasting my precious time on visceral pleasures when I could have been cultivating a more fulfilling life
Now I don't do drugs anymore.
What does /lit/ think about this book ?
I think if you wanna talk about True Detective you should go to /tv/.
not sure why the actual king in yellow theme was abandoned after the yellow sign but it's pretty enjoyable otherwise
>>8378578
Why can't it be the queen in yellow?
Why is it always fucking 'king'
fuck me
Where my gadflies at?
Anyone wanna talk about The Recognitions? Favourite characters, episodes, themes/leitmotifs?
Did anyone "get" Anslem's castration scene without looking it up on the guide?
On a scale of "1" to "someone fucking died," how would you rate Esther's Christmas party?
>>8378546
Naw dude, its all about that Agapē
>>8378609
I haven't gotten to that one yet. I'm afraid of reading Frolic because I might not enjoy it as much as I liked his first 3 so I've just been rereading R, JR and CG for the past 3 years.
>>8378546
It was basically a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's not quite as dramatic, but I'd say J R is a lot better.
Though anyway, looking back my favorite part was Gaddis's takedown of how to win friends and influence people.
What is our equivalent to the Plane Scene and ITAOTS, /lit/? Is it Ulysses? Infinite Jest? Brothers Karamazov?
>>8378441
obviously Infinite Jest, jesús cristo my dude delete this thread.
>>8378445
i'm just doing research buddy no need to get upset
Meme trilogy is our boards all time classic
Do i need to read something before Kierkegaard to understand him?
His bio.
>>8378357
Hegel, Plato, knowledge of protestantism and his life.
>>8378357
Did Kierkegaard sing in a rockband?
Has Knausgaard lived the ultimate /lit/erary lifestyle?
>born to academic parents
>conflict with father which created lifelong angst
>entrance into renowned writing school at an early age
>around seven years spent studying different topics
>avoided full-time wagecuckery his entire life
>spent months on the dole when he felt like writing in peace
>qt wife paid the bills while he focused on writing
>generally lived as a NEET throughout his 20s thanks to based Norwegian welfare and free education syste,
>debut aged 30 wins major Norwegian prize and is respected by all critics
>following book two years later wins several international awards and is again respected by critics worldwide
>memoirs have worldwide appeal, becoming bestsellers in several countries
>not even 50 years old
>tfw nothing in your life has pointed you towards anything resembling the /lit/ life: no good education or /lit/erary careers or /lit/ friends and family
>only thing you've got is you're book nerd who writes shitty short stories no one cares about
>>8378341
>born to academic parents
>conflict with father which created lifelong angst
>entrance into renowned writing school at an early age
>around seven years spent studying different topics
>avoided full-time wagecuckery his entire life
>spent months on the dole when he felt like writing in peace
>qt wife paid the bills while he focused on writing
>generally lived as a NEET throughout his 20s thanks to based Norwegian welfare and free education syste,
>debut aged 30 wins major Norwegian prize and is respected by all critics
>following book two years later wins several international awards and is again respected by critics worldwide
>memoirs have worldwide appeal, becoming bestsellers in several countries
>not even 50 years old
>his books still have no value
>>8378341
>Knausgaard
Literally who?
Hey, /lit/, what do you think about minamalism?
Better than maximalism.
>>8378281
i feel that you are minimally exceptional, OP
>>8378281
OK.
Can /lit/ explain the difference between sci-fi and speculative sci-fi? Is the "speculative" modifier just a meme to make the genre sound more literary?
I'm honestly curious what the difference is.
atwood started using the term because she didn't want to be associated with genre fiction
>>8378179
that doesn't actually look like a very comfortable position to read in. she's going to get a stiff neckshe'd get something else stiff if i saw her like that in those stockings
>>8378179
There is no difference. SF is a genre of spectaculative fiction.
How often do you guys actually reread books? Do you read most that you own?
I always wanted to own a lot of books. I like collecting books, being able to read them whenever I want. The problem is I don't actually seem to read them. There are a few books I've read two or three times but there are others I read ten years ago but I pick up now, read a few pages, and I'm like "It felt like I just read this a few months ago. I don't wanna read it again. Maybe later."
I think you need to see a professional.
>>8378153
I don't need help learning how to read books. I learned that in elementary
>>8378150
The only author I reread is Gene Wolfe.
I assume I'll do rereads for my final, I plan to do political philosophy of Thomas Aquinas.
Are there any philosophical works which directly or indirectly can be applied to addiction recovery (preferably without resorting to übermensch ideals and so on)?
Thanks senpai
>>8378128
what is your addiction?
>>8378142
chocoholic
Infinite jest. Not even memeing